Nice one, Merry Christmas.
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From: David Teal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:26 PM
Subject: [biofuels-biz] A nice story
One of my customers for biodiesel is a musician. He decided to build a
new
recording studio
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ooh, tell us aobut vegtherm -lite. What is tha application- heating
biodiesel lines, or is it an svo application still?
Time for my Yearly Wintertime Retelling of the one single
Berkeley Recycling gelled fuel story. They run 16 (garbage type)
curbaide recycling trucks on B100 in Berkeley,
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wrote:
I called Jim Caldwell at the EPA today to talk about the
classification of biodiesel within the EPA registration process (ie
whether it's classified as non-baseline or atypical), and to ask
about the possible small business
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wrote:
I'm looking for a place to buy methanol online? I found one
place,
I usually look in the phone book for wholesale gas distributors
and for hot rod/performance places- sometimes racecar engine
builders will order a drum or
Whoops, I screwed up my post to Todd about reverse reaction,
and it's super confusing as a result.
I said:
Reverse reaction: I'm talking about Neutral from the infopop
forum and others who have had glycerol completely disappear
under the following conditions: Neutral was running methanol
I thought that the problem with excess methanol is that it's an
atmospheric pollutant-
Sure it is (ozone-forming, mainly, I think), but it's not just vapour
- the liquid form doesn't do a whole lot of good when it gets into
the groundwater. Maybe it'll get broken down in the soil first, if it
I give up!
I give up!
I have been to all the BIO sites I can find. Benz sites too.
I can't find a shred of information on the Mercedes 86 W126 300SDL in regard
to Biodiesel conversion and reliability issues.
On the same token, there was nothing I could find on the 77-85 W123 300D,
which I
Thankyou Matt
Nice byte-sized rule:
in a diesel leaner means cooler,
richer means hotter.
I'll forward your message. Thanks again.
Best
Keith
Keith et al,
I cannot explian why it is so but a compression engine is not the same
as an ignition engine, meaning that in a diesel leaner means
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Subject: EPA mercury rule / BushGreenWatch.org
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 11:18:36 -0500
EMS Update - December 15, 2003
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Today is the EPA's deadline to announce its plan for regulating
It seems to me that SVO is a better solution then ethanol.
Why?- Because it is easy to make and easy to get, license free.
One really doesn't have to make aplant for it - it is very safe too!
Lets suppose for a minute that diesel engine could run on SVO without
any mods.
Will we need diesel
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Go talk to your racing pals. You should be able to get 55 gal of racing
fuel in your area for 2-3 bucks a gal.
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From: Boston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 8:05 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] New to Bio-Diesel, Need
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi Martin
If it is in fact running hotter, you could use a water injection system
to cool it down (and also increase efficiency a bit)
..or can you not do this with a diesel as you can with a gasoline engine?
-Martin Klingensmith
Water in Diesel
That is insanely expensive!
Places to find methanol include: racing shops, dry-gas, perhaps a
chemical supplier (technical grade).
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Boston wrote:
Hello All, My name is Boston, I am getting the Itch to try Bio-Diesel
for
I have the oppertiunity to get lots of WVO for free. I don't own a
diesel vehicle and cannot afford to buy one at the moment. The only
heat I have for my house is a woodstove. I started thinking if I had
a way to burn WVO I could take care of all my heating needs. Does
anybody have any plans
Aside: I do want to say that awhile back you shot down my interest in
completely-different non-natural production of biofuels and ethanol and
what-not, from such schemes as PV-to-H2-to-C2H6O, or whatever,
Point me at it please? I'd like to have a look at what I shot down.
Aside: I do want to say that awhile back you shot down my interest in
completely-different non-natural production of biofuels and ethanol and
what-not, from such schemes as PV-to-H2-to-C2H6O, or whatever,
Point me at it please? I'd like to have a look at what I shot down.
Murdoch,
Once again it comes to mind that I'd love to see an alcohol fuel
cell for cars.
I'm *very* into the ethanol powered fuel cell developments, but I
don't think we ought to put energies towards developing fuel cells for
vehicle use per se. Just think of all the copper that would be
Hi all,
I have been following this list for a while know and am very interested in
making Biodiesel for my own use. I am building a retirement home in northern
Michigan that is a totally off grid. We have solar and wind power for our
electric. I have installed a solar wall for some of my
If Rudolf Diesel was able to make an engine which runs on SWO in 1913 I
don't see the reason why it can't be done in 2003.
After all we are trying to explore life on Mars!
If for DIY guy takes $300 to make car to run on SWO, I don't see why car
makers couldn't do it as an option - a truly
Mark,
Good points. But i'm still unclear about the
economics of large-scale commercial production.
Whether you're using oil that is a byproduct of the
livestock feed industry or getting biodiesel as a
byproduct of making soap, I don't see why that should
matter. The point I'm making is that
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, shawstafari wrote:
I'm *very* into the ethanol powered fuel cell developments, but I
don't think we ought to put energies towards developing fuel cells for
vehicle use per se. Just think of all the copper that would be
needed! Ahh, the wheels of capitalism they do turn.
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Boston Bryce wrote:
I'm looking for a place to buy methanol online? I found one place, but
seemed a bit pricey for 5 gallons. Is this a normal cost for Methanol?
$25.00 for 5 gallons
$20.00 HazMat Handling
$20.00 Shipping
+ Tax
=
$70.00
I live in Phoenix, AZ and
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:00:59 -, you wrote:
Murdoch,
Once again it comes to mind that I'd love to see an alcohol fuel
cell for cars.
I'm *very* into the ethanol powered fuel cell developments, but I
don't think we ought to put energies towards developing fuel cells for
vehicle use per se.
I have considered biodiesel production for some years now and wonder about
the confusions and the truth about several procedures.Doing it right and
cleanly should be upmost in everyone's mind.The Big Oil Business has a terrible
record of doing anything cleanly as i know from years of living
I have question for the biodiesel makers in the group.
I had gathered some materials here in Israel, for making biodisel. I am using
ethanol not methanol . Both from health and environmental reasons.
And I am wondering if it is worth while, economically
I brought potassium hydroxide for 0.81
You snipped quite a bit, I'll put it back:
... what-not, from such schemes as PV-to-H2-to-C2H6O, or whatever,
and I did not
agree at all with this, but it didn't seem important to argue it at length at
that time. I know what I think on the matter. If it can be done sustainably
then I'm for
Hi to all
My salute and million thanks to people behind in making this website I
donĂ¢t want to elaborate more but express my gratitude and personal thank
you to all. My your day be merry this coming season greetings
Best wishes
Frank
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From: Keith Addison
No Maria.
What I've said is that heat can help break an emulsion. Key word is help.
It's not a guarantee and it doesn't work with all emulsions.
As for your contention that heat doesn't aid in the formation of emulsions,
you might want to consider something as simple as whether or not warmer
Disclaimer: I still haven't made BD. I can still think and use a
calculator, though. OK...
You're looking at a lot of electricity to heat your fuel through the
reaction. I would suggest that you consider heating the WVO in a separate
container with WVO, biodiesel, or byproduct before the
Maria,
You might care to consider whether or not it's calcium and other residue in
the lining of the hot H20 tank that you've converted to a processor that is
lending to your cloud problem.
Doubtful that aereation from the pump, of and by itself, is lending to the
cloudiness.
Todd Swearingen
Alex,
Rudolf Diesel's engine for SVO was a failure, he actually tried to make an
engine that was meant to run on coal dust. He got money to develop that and
he ended up with an engine that was working with vegetable oil. Maybe we
need some more useful mistakes, maybe as a result of the Bush
Maud,
is the amount of methanol remaining in the methyl ester
considered negligible? Is it possible to determine what percentage
remains in the methyl ester and what percentage in the glycerol? Maud
Just for grins and giggles and to answer part of your question, a 100
milileter sample of
Do not be so sure, they are professional on making mistakes. Think about
all the money spent on finding WMDs and Iraqi freedom . As a byproduct of
this mistake, they now control maybe the largest oil reserves on Earth.
The money that is spent on hydrogen freedom car, might end up to be a
this is before I worked with the hot water heaters.I't's a
drum-based tank (110 gallons, two drums welded together) ,
identical to previous partly-sealed processors of mine but more
tightly sealed. I didn't say aeration either.
mark
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Indeed, I love mistakes in engineering. On the issue of what's different
between then and now, I'm not sure if even he could have overcome, with or
without mistakes, the deliberate studied neglect of important technologies and
industries and issues by the present powers-that-be.
On Tue, 16
Frank...,
And a Happy Humbug! to all as well.
Ye indeede! Humbug!
Humbug! in July. Humbug! in May! Humbug! in February!
Humbug!
Yes.., Bahh Humbug!
But don't be any the less happy about it!
:-)
Celebrate Humbug!!!
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From: Franklin B. Del
this is before I worked with the hot water heaters.I't's a
drum-based tank (110 gallons, two drums welded together) ,
identical to previous partly-sealed processors of mine but more
tightly sealed. I didn't say aeration either.
mark
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Maria,
Pumps tend to aereate when the return is not below the fluid line.
Splashing, agitation, aereationalmost all the same kettle of phish.
Still, it shouldn't matter one whit when it comes to clarity, as even the
most micro of bubbles should come out of solution rather quickly.
Next
I called Jim Caldwell at the EPA today to talk about the
classification of biodiesel within the EPA registration process (ie
whether it's classified as non-baseline or atypical), and to ask
about the possible small business producer exemptions for Tier
I/Tier II testing for EPA registration
You still weren't listening to what I said (in your hurry to disprove
it because I mentioned the awful, terrible name of 'infopop
biodiesel forum'. I don' t always agree with what Neutral reports
(or anyone else on any forum for that matter, you, me, ken,keith,
whomever, we all get confused
MM,
Seeing it from the outside, the only US politician on that level, that ever
made any technical sense when he talk, is Al Gore. The others I heard,
either do not know enough or do not want to know. He is not running, so I
do not know what you can do. I followed some of the debates and
The other day I spoke to a woman near Tucson, Arizona (an hour from where I am
moving) who had done a lot with her 5 acres, her livestock, her house and who
and some real interest and expertise in engineering. She had looked into
installing some solar PV a year or two ago and had run into the
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