[Biofuel] More on Votergate
Dear all, Votergate is a continuing fascination. Are we watching the first cracks in the American monolith? Have the oil conglomerates finally overstepped the mark? More importantly, will ordinary Americans react, and if so how? Regards, Bob. The best reporting by far in the mainstream media has beenby MSNBC's Keith Olbermann. Both on TV andon his blog, Mr. Olbermann is asking serious questions. He is even asking why other major media aren't reporting many of these sensational stories. His most excellent blog gives continual updates of recent developments in the elections scandals. Here are a few key quotes from three of the entries there: Nov. 7,6:55 p.m. Officials in Warren County, Ohio, locked down its administration building to prevent anybody from observing the vote count thereEmergency Services Director Frank Young explained that he had been advised by the federal government to implement the measures for the sake of Homeland Security. The majority of the media has yet to touch the other stories of Ohio (the amazing Bush Times Ten voting machine in Gahanna) or huge margins for Bush in Florida counties in which registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2-1. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 (scroll down to find this date and time in the blog) Nov. 9, 12:55 a.m. the remarkable results out of Cuyahoga County, Ohio. In 29 precincts there, the Countyâs website shows, we had the most unexpected results in years: more votes than voters. Iâll repeat that: more votes than voters. 93,000 more votes than voters. (more on this below) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 November 10, 12:43 p.m.The computerized balloting in North Carolina is so thoroughly messed up that all state-wide voting may be thrown out and a second election day scheduled. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240 WOWT/NBC (Nebraska)- Sarpy County election officials are trying to figure out how they ended up with more votes than voters in the general election.Sarpy County borrowed the election equipment from Omaha-based Election Systems Software. Its employees operated the machines that are now double-checking the ballots. No one is sure exactly what went wrong. http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/1161971.html Sun Journal- A North Carolinanewspaper reports that a systems software glitch in Craven County's electronic voting equipment is being blamed for a vote miscount that ... swelled the number of votes for president here by 11,283 more votes than the total number cast. http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfmStoryID=18297Section=Local Associated Press/USA Today - There were also several dozen voters in six stateswho said the wrong candidates appeared on their touch-screen machine's checkout screen. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techpolicy/evoting/2004-11-04-e-voting-error- nc_x.htm Palm Beach Post (Florida) -Early Thursday, as Broward County elections officials wrapped up after a long day of canvassing votes, something unusual caught their eye. Tallies should go up as more votes are counted. That's simple math. But in some races, the numbers had gone ... down. Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts counting backward. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BRO WVOTE_1105.html New York Times - In mid-August 2003, Walden W. O'Dell, the chief executive of Diebold, wrote a letter inviting 100 wealthy friends to a fund-raiser at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio. He wrote, I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year. A longtime Republican, he is a member of President Bush's Rangers and Pioneers,'' an elite group of loyalists who have raised at least $100,000 each for the 2004 race.Through Diebold Election Systems,Mr. O'Dell'scompany is among the country's biggest suppliers of paperless, touch-screen voting machines. http://www.WantToknow.info/031109nytimes (article became pay for view shortly after elections) Project Censored (Excellent university website exposing media cover-ups): ESS, Diebold, and Sequoia are the companies primarily involved in implementing the new, often faulty, technology at voting stations throughout the country. All three have strong ties to the Bush Administration along with major defense contractors in the United States. Some of the most generous contributors to Republican campaigns are also some of the largest investors in ESS, Sequoia, and Diebold. Most notable of these are government defense contractors Northrup-Grumman, Lockheed-Martin, Electronic Data Systems. http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/6.html USA Today -The three companies that certify the nation's voting technologies operate in secrecy, and refuse to discuss flaws in the machines to be used by nearly one in three voters in
Re: [Biofuel] centrifuging
Does anyone out there use a small continuous-flow centrifuge at all? I have been thinking for a while that one could probably do well for cleaning up waste oil. Spin out particulates and water with no filtration medium. I have seen oil/water separators, and other centrifugal devices, like those used to clean cutting/cooling fluids down to 1 micronand seems like a good way to clean SVO. The only drawback seems to be finding on that is small. Any thoughts? The problem is the cost. A mob called CINC has one that is a benchtop model that can do 2l/min and it sells for about USD $5900 in the latest Cole-Parmer catalogue. I've also been quoted AUD $7k - $12k for second hand units that can do 1000l/hour and AUD $28k for a new Westfalia unit that can also do 1000l/hour. On the other hand, if you can find one that fits within your price range, then they are ideal for the job. If you are handy with your hands and tools, you may be able to find one that's been dumped etc. If you do find an old one and try and renovate it just be careful, these devices spin at up to 6000RPM. I remember seeing pictures at my wifes Uni lab of centrifuges that had gone wrong and it looked like someone had let off a small bomb inside them. Regards, Andrew Lowe p.s. USD - US dollars, AUD - Australian dollars, currently about USD $0.75 per AUD $1 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Japan GHG Emissions
Japanese Gov't Backs Away from New Carbon Tax http://www.greencarcongress.com Japan is one of the signatories of the Kyoto treaty, and was the host of the 1997 UN convention on climate control, but its greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are going in the wrong direction -- i.e., more emissions, not less. Instead of being on track to meet its reduction target of 6% below 1990 levels by 2010, Japan has seen its emissions rise to 8% above 1990 levels at the end of last year. To meet the Kyoto targets by 2010, Japan now will have to reduce emissions by 14% based on last year's rate. If emissions continue to climb, the amount of reduction would of course have to increase as well. The transportation sector accounts for an estimated fifth of the total. The Environment Ministry is responding with planned stricter emissions standards in October 2005, and last week announced a new carbon tax. One week later, the Environment Ministry has decided to give up the planned implementation of the carbon tax in favor of more discussion. (Japan Today) The tax as originally conceived would have levied a surcharge on processors and importers of fossil fuels of 3,400´ ($32) per ton of carbon, the surcharge presumably to be passed on to consumers. Internal opposition to that amount pushed it down to 2,400´/ton ($23). Consumers would have paid approximately 1.5´ ($0.014) extra per liter of gasoline, according to the ministry. The average annual burden on households would have come to approximately 3,000´ ($28). (The Japan Times) Industry opposed to green tax Nov 11, 2004 http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=featureid=784 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] US Arizona Solar Energy
State slow to tap into sunâs power By Ed Gately, Tribune Nov 14, 2004 http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=31554 More people in the Valley of the Sun have turned to the sun for their electricity this year, resulting in a boom for the solar energy industry. With less than two months to go, 2004 has been a phenomenal year for the solar energy industry, said Sean Seitz, president and co-owner of Valley-based America Solar Electric, and president of the Arizona Solar Energy Industries Association. Its members range from large, multinational corporations to small, local contracting companies that specialize in solar energy. Weâve seen a lot of growth in the residential and municipal sectors, he said. People are treating energy as more of a priority now, and as it impacts their wallets, theyâre looking at alternatives. And the utility programs that exist today are very supportive of moving solar technologies forward. Higher oil and gas prices, as well as power distribution problems this past summer, brought the issue of conservation and renewable energy to the forefront among many consumers, businesses and municipalities, Seitz said. The Arizona Corporation Commission also has prompted more interest in solar electricity. In February, the commission approved an increase in the Environmental Portfolio Standard, which requires utilities to generate a percentage of their retail energy sales through solar and other renewable energy resources. Arizonaâs solar energy industry, specifically the sector involved in using solar energy to create electricity, is growing at about 35 percent annually said Robert Annan, a former director of solar energy programs for the U.S. Department of Energy. He now is a consultant to the stateâs solar energy industry. About 250 people are involved in Arizonaâs renewable energy industry, including about 100 in solar energy, said Lane Garrett, president of Tempe-based ETA Engineering. The industry still faces an uphill battle in its effort to convince more people to turn to the sun for their electricity needs, Annan said. We are faced with a very entrenched, fossil-fired generating power industry, Annan said. And to displace that with new technology is not an easy thing to do. It means you just have to get used to it. GROWTH THIS YEAR ETA Engineering is a worldwide distributor of solar power and renewable energy products and services. Our customer base is very wide ranging, Garrett said. Whoever uses electricity is a potential customer. Parts of Europe, and Japan are buying all of the renewable energy that they can get their hands on. We could have grown a lot more a lot faster if we could get enough product. In recent years, ETA Engineering has seen an increase in demand for its products in Arizona. Until two years ago, Arizonaâs solar energy market was confined to remote areas without access to electricity, Garrett said. At the same time, Germany and Japan were ramping up their incentive programs and pushing for more renewable energy, he said. His company and others have profited from providing products and services to these countries. Japan and Germany are way ahead of Arizona in installations (of solar energy systems), Garrett said. The Environmental Portfolio Standard has helped expand the solar energy market in Arizona to areas where conventional electricity is available, he said. Demand for solar energy is very high, Garrett said. Most of the major manufacturers have announced that they are literally doubling capacity in 12 months. The average industry growth rate has been maybe 30 percent per year for the last 2 1/2 decades, which is pretty good. But then all of a sudden to go to a 100 percent growth rate is awesome. At any given time, ETA Engineeringâs products are being shipped out across the globe, while its solar electricity systems are being installed at households across the Valley. American Solar Electricâs business volume and revenue has doubled this year over 2003, Seitz said. It is a designbuild firm that specializes in solar electric power systems for commercial, industrial and residential applications. Itâs meant adding people to our payroll, he said. Weâve pretty much doubled our employment from the beginning of the year to the present. Arizona has the thirdlargest solar energy market in the country after California and New Jersey, Seitz said. Itâs primarily based on the (financial incentives) and the dollars tied to the Environmental Portfolio Standard, he said. UTILITIESâ ROLE Salt River Project and Arizona Public Service are involved in the effort to increase solar energy production and usage statewide. Late last month, SRP announced the launch of its new SolarWise Energy program, which will pay up to $9,000 to residential and small business customers who purchase and install solar energy systems that interconnect
[Biofuel] efficient solar cells
APS testing world's most efficient solar cells By Ed Taylor, Tribune Nov 1, 2004 http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=30814 Arizona Public Service has started testing the world's most efficient solar cells at its Solar Technology and Research Center in Tempe. The cells, which covert sunlight directly into electricity, have the potential to revolutionize the industry by making solar energy more cost-competitive with conventional energy sources, said Peter Johnston, manager of technology development for APS. ãThis has been an evolutionary process, but this technology has the potential to bring revolutionary change,ä he said. The new photovoltaic technology was developed by the Spectrolab division of The Boeing Co., and similar systems have been used to power spacecraft, including the Mars Rovers. The APS test is the first time it has been demonstrated as part of a utility's electricity grid. ãIt's small, a one kilowatt system, but it's the world's first,ä Johnston said. The new device uses concentrating triple junction solar cells, which are composed of three layers of semiconducting material, each of which extracts energy from a different part of the solar light spectrum. The efficiency is further enhanced by a system of mirrors that concentrates the sunlight by 500 times onto each cell. That is about twice the concentration of existing photovoltaic systems, Johnston said. As a result, the new system is expected to be about 50 percent more efficient at converting sunlight into electricity than other technology APS has tested to date, he said. The silicon cells APS has been testing at the STAR center have about a 20 percent efficiency rating, meaning that about 20 percent of the sun's energy is converted to electricity. The new cells, which are made of layers of gallium indium phosphide, indium gallium arsenide and germanium, have a conversion efficiency of about 32 percent, Johnston said. Eventually Boeing hopes to increase that efficiency to 50 percent, he said. Increasing the efficiency of solar cells is important to bringing down the cost of solar energy. To date the cost per kilowatt of electricity produced from sunlight has been about four times greater than electricity produced from conventional sources such as coal. The new system may cut that cost in half, making solar still twice as expensive but closer to being competitive, especially if conventional sources of fuel continue to increase in price, Johnston said. The system is less costly because fewer cells are needed, which reduces the amount of expensive semiconducting material that is used, said Dr. Raed Sherif, manager of terrestrial photovoltaic activity at Boeing Spectrolab. APS plans to continue testing the system for about a year and will install improved cells as they are developed. The purpose is to test the reliability of the technology, which could encourage more utilities to give it a try, Sherif said. Because triple junction solar cells have functioned successfully in the extreme temperatures of space, Sherif believes they will prove reliable on Earth, even in the intense heat of sunlight concentrated 500 times. ãWe don't think the performance will degrade, but that is one of the things we need to demonstrate,ä he said. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Over a Barrel
Over a Barrel Experts say we're about to run out of oil. But we're nowhere near having another technology ready to take its place. By Paul Roberts November/December 2004 Issue http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2004/11/10_401.html It's eight o'clock on a fresh summer morning in Denver, and I'm at a podium before a hundred executives from regional energy companies. Having spent the last few years closely observing trends in the oil industry, I'm often asked to speak about the decline of global energy supplies, the way oil has corrupted U.S. foreign policy, and why the worldwide energy economy needs a radical transformation if we want to avoid catastrophic climate change. Yet while these themes play well to liberal audiences in Boulder and Berkeley, I worry my reception here will be much cooler. Most of these weather-beaten men (and a few women) spend their days squeezing hydrocarbons from the sand and stone beneath the Rockies; if my past observations of the energy industry are any guide, they voted for Bush, support the Iraq war, think climate change is a leftist hoax, and believe the main cause of America's energy crisis is that overzealous regulation keeps drillers like themselves from tapping the most promising reserves of oil and natural gas. But as I finish my spiel and take questions, my initial assumptions vanish. When I suggest that the Iraq war might not have been motivated entirely by America's thirst for oil, many in the room openly smirk, ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics
It's All About the Benjamins Neglect of clean energy hurts economy as well as environment http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2004/10/25/4/ The lack of aggressive clean-energy policies at the federal level is taking its toll on the U.S. economy. As recently as a decade ago, U.S. companies claimed 50 percent of the market for solar photovoltaic panels, but now that number is down to 10 percent, with Japan and Europe dominating the world market. Likewise, Germany passed the U.S. as the primary source of wind-power technology a few years ago. Tax breaks and subsidies for wind and solar in the U.S. are extended a year at a time, leading some companies seeking predictability and stability to head overseas. Meantime, the Bush administration has funneled money to futuristic hydrogen technology without seriously upping spending on currently viable renewables, leaving the burgeoning wind and solar markets to other countries. The Union of Concerned Scientists estimates that if Kerry's goal of getting 20 percent of U.S. electricity from renewables by 2020 were met, 355,000 new jobs would be created. And importing less oil would mean more favorable trade balances. straight to the source: Salon.com, Katharine Mieszkowski, 25 Oct 2004 How George Bush Lost the Sun By Katharine Mieszkowski Salon.com 25 Oct 2004 http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102704G.shtml Solar power could be a source of new jobs and an answer to global warming. So why has the U.S. fallen behind other nations in developing it? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] TDI and B100
BD to a couple with a 99 jetta that run 100%. I'm pretty confidant that there will be no problem but only time will tellDB - Original Message - From: Rodney Hadley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 7:01 AM Subject: [Biofuel] TDI and B100 Does anyone know of, or heard of B100 damaging a VW TDI engine (2003 jetta), in particular the fuel injection pump. Is it possible for the fuel injection pump to be damaged by biodiesel, does it have any rubber components? __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Anyone working with algae out there?
I know of most of the web resources on the subject, and of the UNH stuff... But is anyone out there running any pilot projects? At 15,000 gallons per acre annual yield, based on the work done under the Aquatic Species Program, a demonstration facility seems like a given. Anyone know of any? Any implementation? No, not particular to biodiesel. There is something in Hawaii that does algae for Spirillena(???) and a place about 6 hours north of Perth in Western Australia that does algae for Beta Crotene. Both of these are meant to be large scale The technology seems very pretty straight forward. Where can one learn more about implementation? Seems like growing the algae would be simple enough, but what about extraction? Is this simply drying, and pressing, centrifugal separation? What are the properties of the oil content? On these points, I just went to a local Uni and did a catalogue search for algae. I then spent the rest of the day looking through books, books that covered everything from the sex life of algae through to what they eat and what they do if you starve them of nitrogen. The remaining lipids then to undergo something like transesterfication? Yes Are they usable as-is for boiler fuels, or in WVO/SVO modified diesel? No idea Also why don't more people know about this?? As a former Sierra Club staffer, I am amazed that neither they, NRDC, or any of the other environmental awareness groups, which have alt fuel projects , have any idea of this. I hear the same canned response about the supply-side limitations of biodiesel, as if this 20 year, federal program never existed. Arg! At the moment biodiesel is relatively small scale. It can survive on the waste oil from the food industry, tallow from the meat industry and rape/canola/palm oil when it is in good supply and cheap enough. If the world ever gets around to recognising that Biodiesel is a in/out replacement for dinodiesel, rather than chasing around after hydrogen powered vehicles, then the demand will grow drastically, but supply of the base oils will get more scarce. It is then that someone, probably in an oil company, will remember an old report they saw about algae and oil production. Next thing you know, because the oil companies want to do it, various govenrments will find huge sums of money to back research and hey presto, fuel from algae. Sorry...I have so many questions, but can not seem to be able to find any technical resources on the subject. Perhaps someone out there may be able to direct me. The only thing I've found on large scale production is this book Micro-algal biotechnology ISBN: 0521323495 Thanks! -Rob ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Anyone working with algae out there?
268 posts on algae for you! http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=algaetime=allusertim e=2002-12-31 Best Keith I know of most of the web resources on the subject, and of the UNH stuff... But is anyone out there running any pilot projects? At 15,000 gallons per acre annual yield, based on the work done under the Aquatic Species Program, a demonstration facility seems like a given. Anyone know of any? Any implementation? The technology seems very pretty straight forward. Where can one learn more about implementation? Seems like growing the algae would be simple enough, but what about extraction? Is this simply drying, and pressing, centrifugal separation? What are the properties of the oil content? The remaining lipids then to undergo something like transesterfication? Are they usable as-is for boiler fuels, or in WVO/SVO modified diesel? Also why don't more people know about this?? As a former Sierra Club staffer, I am amazed that neither they, NRDC, or any of the other environmental awareness groups, which have alt fuel projects , have any idea of this. I hear the same canned response about the supply-side limitations of biodiesel, as if this 20 year, federal program never existed. Arg! Sorry...I have so many questions, but can not seem to be able to find any technical resources on the subject. Perhaps someone out there may be able to direct me. Thanks! -Rob ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Japan GHG Emissions
campaign initiated by Tokyo's foolish rightwing mayor Ishihara as a cheap vote-catcher, and since spread to other centres. And it ushers in an extra edge for biodiesel, being carbon neutral. Some of our friends have used biodiesel and catalytic converters to outwit the DieselNo! campaign restrictions - oops, no emissions, or well within the limits anyway, so they now happily drive their diesels in the restricted areas. The only problem is that the owner is required to pay for the emissions tests, and it's expensive, something like $3,000, ridiculous. Diesels are held guilty until proven innocent, at your expense, not the authorities'. That will change too. We'll help it to change when the time comes. Meanwhile more and more people here are making their own biodiesel, and promoting it, and all credit for that goes to Midori Hiraga of Journey to Forever. All other biodiesel projects here have either been centralised or depended on these extremely expensive processors a few companies here sell - $70,000 to $200,000 for processors with a 100-litre a day capacity and a poor-quality product that doesn't pass the completion tests. But now people are building their own processors for not very much and making high-quality fuel that passes any test you like. Revolutionary, and it's really taking off now. Best wishes Keith Japanese Gov't Backs Away from New Carbon Tax http://www.greencarcongress.com Japan is one of the signatories of the Kyoto treaty, and was the host of the 1997 UN convention on climate control, but its greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions are going in the wrong direction -- i.e., more emissions, not less. Instead of being on track to meet its reduction target of 6% below 1990 levels by 2010, Japan has seen its emissions rise to 8% above 1990 levels at the end of last year. To meet the Kyoto targets by 2010, Japan now will have to reduce emissions by 14% based on last year's rate. If emissions continue to climb, the amount of reduction would of course have to increase as well. The transportation sector accounts for an estimated fifth of the total. The Environment Ministry is responding with planned stricter emissions standards in October 2005, and last week announced a new carbon tax. One week later, the Environment Ministry has decided to give up the planned implementation of the carbon tax in favor of more discussion. (Japan Today) The tax as originally conceived would have levied a surcharge on processors and importers of fossil fuels of 3,400´ ($32) per ton of carbon, the surcharge presumably to be passed on to consumers. Internal opposition to that amount pushed it down to 2,400´/ton ($23). Consumers would have paid approximately 1.5´ ($0.014) extra per liter of gasoline, according to the ministry. The average annual burden on households would have come to approximately 3,000´ ($28). (The Japan Times) Industry opposed to green tax Nov 11, 2004 http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=featureid=784 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycle
Hi there, Anyone from Brazil out there have had the experience with ethanol vehicles? Interested in ethanol bikes and generators or the changes in fuel pump and injection systems needed for conversion from petrol engines. Any organisation or website from Brazil with such information beside the FFV automakers? CS Chua - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycle http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/diesel.htm http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm#PrinciplesOfOperation http://www.extremedieselbiking.de/ And let us not forget the venerable JtF's webpage on them: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html Enjoy! Luc - Original Message - From: Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:50 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Diesel Motorcycle Anyone know of a diesel motorcycle? mel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics
- Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 11:43 PM Subject: [Biofuel] US Solar Photovoltaics : It's All About the Benjamins More to the point, it's about WHO is getting the Benjamins. Doug --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/02/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] solar hot water
Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
interesting. Even I could probably figure it out :) http://www.geocities.com/solarliving/Homewater/Homewater.html Luc - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. What was the url Kim? Probably I can find it for you. Steve seems to change his urls like other people change their underwear, and he doesn't leave jump links. I've had to change all his urls at our site six times now, so probably I'm getting good at it. :-( Regards Keith Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] solar hot water
Are you going to make it yourself or buy it? I just finished setting up some solar heater boxes that have solar panels on top. The idea is to let the water take the heat away from the panels underneath and give hot water as well as electricity. Now I just have to finish wiring the solar panels and lift up on the roof. I can sketch out the design once I am finished with the plumping and wiring. The boxes are made out of folded metal with insulation inside and sit on a frame on the roof. The heat exchange I salvaged is a strange one... Has a radiator in the top and can also take hot air from a stove or other thing to heat the water as well. mel -Original Message- From: Kim Garth Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
http://www.green-trust.org/main.htm new URL for webconx.com Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. What was the url Kim? Probably I can find it for you. Steve seems to change his urls like other people change their underwear, and he doesn't leave jump links. I've had to change all his urls at our site six times now, so probably I'm getting good at it. :-( Regards Keith Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
Building your own? Kirk --- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] RE: solar cells
The silicon cells APS has been testing at the STAR center have about a 20 percent efficiency rating, meaning that about 20 percent of the sun's energy is converted to electricity. The new cells, which are made of layers of gallium indium phosphide, indium gallium arsenide and germanium, have a conversion efficiency of about 32 percent, Johnston said. Anyone have information about how solar cell energy lifecycle efficiency (energy input required to mine and tranform these elements into solar cells versus the electricty production over the life of the cells) compares with other fuels and engery sources? Ed ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] market for crude glycerol
What markets are available for the sale and distribution of crude glycerol that is a by-product of the production of biodiesel from waste oil? We are producing on the scope of around 7,200 litres per day of waste glycerol; is there any coherent average price for crude glycerol (esp. in Europe, but also worldwide)? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] The Ballots at the Back of the Bus
In These Times November 14, 2004 The Ballots at the Back of the Bus Most voters in Ohio chose Kerry; here's how the votes vanished. By Greg Palast This past February, Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell told the president of the State Senate, The possibility of a close election with punch cards as the state's primary voting device invites a Florida-like calamity. Blackwell, co-chair of Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, wasn't warning his fellow Republican of disaster; he was boasting of an opportunity to deliver Ohio for Team Bush no matter what the voters wanted. And this past Election Day most voters in Ohio wanted JFK, not GWB. But their choice won't count because their votes won't be counted. The ballots that add up to a majority for John Kerry in Ohio are locked up in two Republican hidey-holes: spoiled and provisional. Ohio spoiled rotten In a typical presidential election, 2 million ballots are marked spoiled and then chucked in the garbage, uncounted. But a dive into the electoral dumpster reveals something special about these votes. In a precinct-by-precinct analysis of the Florida 2000 race, the U.S. Civil Rights Commission discovered that 54 percent of spoiled ballots were cast by African-Americans. Florida is typical. Nationwide, the number of black votes disappeared into the spoiled pile is about 1 million. The other million in the no-count pit come mainly from Hispanic, Native-American and poor white precincts, a decidedly Democratic demographic. Vote spoilage comes in two flavors. Overvotes are where there are too many punches in the cards. And undervotes are where the hanging, dimpled and pregnant chads created by old punch card machines hang on. Machines can't these kinds of undervotes, but we humans, who know a hole when we see one, have no problem É if we're allowed to. This is how Katherine Harris defeated Al Gore: by halting the hand count of the spoiled punch cards not, as is generally believed, by halting a recount. Federal investigators determined that in the 2000 Florida race black voters' ballots spoiled 900 percent more often than white voters, mainly due to punch card error. This year, Ohio was the only one of 50 states to refuse to eliminate or fix these vote-eating machines, even in the face of a lawsuit by the ACLU. Apparently, the Ohio Republicans liked what the ACLU found. The civil rights group's expert testimony concluded that Ohio's cussed insistence on forcing 73 percent of its electorate to use punch card machines had an overwhelming racial bias, voiding votes mostly in black precincts. Blackwell doesn't disagree; and he hopes to fix the machinery É after George Bush's next inauguration. In the meantime, the state's Attorney General Jim Petro, a Republican, postponed the trial date of the ACLU case until after the election. Fixing the problem is easy. If Ohio had placed a card-reading machine in each polling station, as Michigan did this year, voters could have ensured their vote would tally. If not, they would have gotten new cards. Blackwell knows that. He also knows that if those reading machines had been installed, almost all of the 93,000 spoiled votes (from overwhelmingly Democratic areas) would have closed the gap on Bush's lead of 136,000 votes. Jim Crow's provisional ballot Add to spoiled ballots a second group of uncounted votes, provisional ballots, and the White House would have turned Democrat blue. But that won't happen because of the peculiar way provisional ballots are counted or, more often, not counted. The provisional ballot, introduced by federal law in 2002, was proposed by the Congressional Black Caucus to save the rights of those wrongly scrubbed from voter rolls. In Republican-controlled swing states, however, these were twisted into back-of-the-bus ballots unlikely to be tallied. These provisional ballots are counted only at the whimsy and rules of a state's top elections official; and in Ohio, that gives a virtual ballot veto to Bush-Cheney campaign co-chair Blackwell. In Ohio, more than 155,000 voters were shunted to these second-class ballots. The election-shifting bulge in provisional ballots (more than 3 percent of the electorate) was the direct result of the national Republican strategy that targeted African-American precincts for mass challenges on Election Day. And Blackwell has a few rules to ensure a large proportion of provisional ballots won't be counted. For the first time in memory, the secretary of state banned counting ballots cast in the wrong precinct, though all neighborhoods shared the same slate of presidential candidates. This is the first time in four decades that a political party systematically barred tens of thousands of black voters. While investigating for BBC Television, we obtained three dozen of the Republican Party's confidential caging lists, their title for the spreadsheets that list the names and addresses of Ohio
[Biofuel] Fallujah 101: A history lesson about the town we are currently destroying
In These Times November 12, 2004 Fallujah 101 A history lesson about the town we are currently destroying. By Rashid Khalidi The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honor. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqus are belated, insincere, incomplete. Things have been far worse than we have been told, our administration more bloody and inefficient than the public knows. It is a disgrace to our imperial record and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure. We are today not far from a disaster. Our unfortunate troops, Indian and British, under hard conditions of climate and supply are policing an immense area, paying dearly every day in lives for the willfully wrong policy of the civil administration in Baghdad but the responsibility, in this case, is not on the army which has acted only upon the request of the civil authorities. T.E. Lawrence, The Sunday Times, August 1920 There is a small City on one of the bends of the Euphrates that sticks out into the great Syrian Desert. It's on an ancient trade route linking the oasis towns of the Nejd province of what is today Saudi Arabia with the great cities of Aleppo and Mosul to the north. It also is on the desert highway between Baghdad and Amman. This city is a crossroads. For millennia people have been going up and down that north-south desert highway. The city is like a seaport on that great desert, a place that binds together people in what are today Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and Jordan. People in the city are linked by tribe, family or marriage to people in all these places. The ideas that came out of the eastern part of Saudi Arabia in the late 18th Century, which today we call Wahhabi ideas-those of a man named Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab-took root in this city more than 200 years ago. In other words, it is a place where what we would call fundamentalist salafi, or Wahhabi ideas, have been well implanted for 10 generations. This town also is the place where in the spring of 1920, before T. E. Lawrence wrote the above passage, the British discerned civil unrest. The British sent a renowned explorer and a senior colonial officer who had quelled unrest in the corners of their empire, Lt. Col. Gerald Leachman, to master this unruly corner of Iraq. Leachman was killed in an altercation with a local leader named Shaykh Dhari. His death sparked a war that ended up costing the lives of 10,000 Iraqis and more than 1,000 British and Indian troops. To restore Iraq to their control, the British used massive air power, bombing indiscriminately. That city is now called Fallujah. Shaykh Dhari's grandson, today a prominent Iraqi cleric, helped to broker the end of the U.S. Marine siege of Fallujah in April of this year. Fallujah thus embodies the interrelated tribal, religious and national aspects of Iraq's history. The Bush administration is not creating the world anew in the Middle East. It is waging a war in a place where history really matters. A change for the worse The United States has been a major Middle Eastern power since 1933, when a group of U.S. oil companies signed an exploration deal with Saudi Arabia. The United States has been dominant in the Middle East since 1942, when American troops first landed in North Africa and Iran. American troops have not left the region since. In other words, they have been in different parts of the Middle East for 62 years. The United States was once celebrated as a non-colonial, sometimes anti-colonial, power in the Middle East, renowned for more than a century for its educational, medical and charity efforts. Since the Cold War, however, the United States has intervened increasingly in the region's internal affairs and conflicts. Things have changed fundamentally for the worse with the invasion and occupation of Iraq, particularly with the revelation that the core pretexts offered by the administration for the invasion were false. And particularly with growing Iraqi dissatisfaction with the occupation and with the images of the hellish chaos broadcast regularly everywhere in the world except in the United States-thanks to the excellent job done by the media in keeping the real human costs of Iraq off our television screens. The United States is perceived as stepping into the boots of Western colonial occupiers, still bitterly remembered from Morocco to Iran. The Bush administration marched into Iraq proclaiming the very best of intentions while stubbornly refusing to understand that in the eyes of most Iraqis and most others in the Middle East it is actions, not proclaimed intentions, that count. It does not matter what you say you are doing in Fallujah, where U.S. troops just launched an attack after weeks of bombing. What matters is what you are doing in Fallujah-and what people see that you are
Re: Thank You - [Biofuel] Fallujah 101: A history lesson about the town we are currently destroying
Dear Keith, Thank you for the excellent history leasson. And once again thank you for hosting this listserv. Am I allowed to forward your article to my peers? Or cut and paste? Phillip Wolfe --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/1683/ In These Times November 12, 2004 Fallujah 101 A history lesson about the town we are currently destroying. By Rashid Khalidi The people of England have been led in Mesopotamia into a trap from which it will be hard to escape with dignity and honor. They have been tricked into it by a steady withholding of information. The Baghdad communiqués are belated, insincere, incomplete. Things have been far worse than we have been told, our administration more bloody and inefficient than the public knows. It is a disgrace to our imperial record and may soon be too inflamed for any ordinary cure. We are today not far from a disaster. Our unfortunate troops, Indian and British, under hard conditions of climate and supply are policing an immense area, paying dearly every day in lives for the willfully wrong policy of the civil administration in Baghdad but the responsibility, in this case, is not on the army which has acted only upon the request of the civil authorities. T.E. Lawrence, The Sunday Times, August 1920 There is a small City on one of the bends of the Euphrates that sticks out into the great Syrian Desert. It's on an ancient trade route linking the oasis towns of the Nejd province of what is today Saudi Arabia with the great cities of Aleppo and Mosul to the north. It also is on the desert highway between Baghdad and Amman. This city is a crossroads. For millennia people have been going up and down that north-south desert highway. The city is like a seaport on that great desert, a place that binds together people in what are today Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and Jordan. People in the city are linked by tribe, family or marriage to people in all these places. The ideas that came out of the eastern part of Saudi Arabia in the late 18th Century, which today we call Wahhabi ideas-those of a man named Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab-took root in this city more than 200 years ago. In other words, it is a place where what we would call fundamentalist salafi, or Wahhabi ideas, have been well implanted for 10 generations. This town also is the place where in the spring of 1920, before T. E. Lawrence wrote the above passage, the British discerned civil unrest. The British sent a renowned explorer and a senior colonial officer who had quelled unrest in the corners of their empire, Lt. Col. Gerald Leachman, to master this unruly corner of Iraq. Leachman was killed in an altercation with a local leader named Shaykh Dhari. His death sparked a war that ended up costing the lives of 10,000 Iraqis and more than 1,000 British and Indian troops. To restore Iraq to their control, the British used massive air power, bombing indiscriminately. That city is now called Fallujah. Shaykh Dhari's grandson, today a prominent Iraqi cleric, helped to broker the end of the U.S. Marine siege of Fallujah in April of this year. Fallujah thus embodies the interrelated tribal, religious and national aspects of Iraq's history. The Bush administration is not creating the world anew in the Middle East. It is waging a war in a place where history really matters. A change for the worse The United States has been a major Middle Eastern power since 1933, when a group of U.S. oil companies signed an exploration deal with Saudi Arabia. The United States has been dominant in the Middle East since 1942, when American troops first landed in North Africa and Iran. American troops have not left the region since. In other words, they have been in different parts of the Middle East for 62 years. The United States was once celebrated as a non-colonial, sometimes anti-colonial, power in the Middle East, renowned for more than a century for its educational, medical and charity efforts. Since the Cold War, however, the United States has intervened increasingly in the region's internal affairs and conflicts. Things have changed fundamentally for the worse with the invasion and occupation of Iraq, particularly with the revelation that the core pretexts offered by the administration for the invasion were false. And particularly with growing Iraqi dissatisfaction with the occupation and with the images of the hellish chaos broadcast regularly everywhere in the world except in the United States-thanks to the excellent job done by the media in keeping the real human costs of Iraq off our television screens. The United States is perceived as stepping into the boots of Western colonial occupiers, still bitterly remembered from Morocco to Iran. The Bush administration
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
This is the url I have, it is from May of 2001. I had downloaded the article, but that computer crashed and lost it. I am learning that sometimes hard copy is a good idea. Bright Blessings, Kim http://www.webconx.com/2000/solar/solar.htmhttp://www.webconx.com/2000/solar/solar.htm What was the url Kim? Probably I can find it for you. Steve seems to change his urls like other people change their underwear, and he doesn't leave jump links. I've had to change all his urls at our site six times now, so probably I'm getting good at it. :-( Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] RE: solar cells
Ed, Here is a nify website with all types of facts and figures. I don't know them but am a reader of their website. http://www.solarbuzz.com/ P.Wolfe --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The silicon cells APS has been testing at the STAR center have about a 20 percent efficiency rating, meaning that about 20 percent of the sun's energy is converted to electricity. The new cells, which are made of layers of gallium indium phosphide, indium gallium arsenide and germanium, have a conversion efficiency of about 32 percent, Johnston said. Anyone have information about how solar cell energy lifecycle efficiency (energy input required to mine and tranform these elements into solar cells versus the electricty production over the life of the cells) compares with other fuels and engery sources? Ed ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
BB, Kim At 10:29 AM 11/15/2004, you wrote: Building your own? Kirk --- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] market for crude glycerol
Dear Mr. Helm (Peter) Based on my inquiries with industry contacts There is no real retail market for crude glycerol per se but there are refined glycerin markets who need supply of crude glycerin. For example, there are suppliers with refining plants in they make and refine high grade glycerine for commercial and industrial markets. Peter, can you tell me = Do you have supply of crude glycerin in the US? or the UK?. I ask this because is a need for supply in the US for the refining market. Regards, P.Wolfe --- Peter Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What markets are available for the sale and distribution of crude glycerol that is a by-product of the production of biodiesel from waste oil? We are producing on the scope of around 7,200 litres per day of waste glycerol; is there any coherent average price for crude glycerol (esp. in Europe, but also worldwide)? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] market for crude glycerol
Dear Mr. Helm (Peter) Based on my inquiries with industry contacts There is no real retail market for crude glycerol per se but there are refined glycerin markets who need supply of crude glycerin. For example, there are suppliers with refining plants in they make and refine high grade glycerine for commercial and industrial markets. Peter, can you tell me = Do you have supply of crude glycerin in the US? or the UK?. I ask this because is a need for supply in the US for the refining market. Regards, P.Wolfe --- Peter Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What markets are available for the sale and distribution of crude glycerol that is a by-product of the production of biodiesel from waste oil? We are producing on the scope of around 7,200 litres per day of waste glycerol; is there any coherent average price for crude glycerol (esp. in Europe, but also worldwide)? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
Hi Kim, One I use a lot is www.thermomax.com evacuated tubes, other than that www.primosa.at flat plate collectors with good price and value for money, dD _ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.* Phone 1850 73 00 73 or visit http://home.eircom.net/broadbandoffer ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
page can not be displayed. I wonder if it has changed again. http://ww2.green-trust.org:8383/2000/solar/sunontap/page2.htmhttp://ww2.green-trust.org:8383/2000/solar/sunontap/page2.htm I recognize the blurb as being part of the article that had the plans in it. Thanks for the help in trying to locate this article. BB, Kim At 09:55 AM 11/15/2004, you wrote: It really is a case of ask and ye shall receive :) http://www.green-trust.org/main.htm new URL for webconx.com Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. What was the url Kim? Probably I can find it for you. Steve seems to change his urls like other people change their underwear, and he doesn't leave jump links. I've had to change all his urls at our site six times now, so probably I'm getting good at it. :-( Regards Keith Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water
This is the url I have, it is from May of 2001. I had downloaded the article, but that computer crashed and lost it. Aarghhh! I am learning that sometimes hard copy is a good idea. Hard back-ups too. Bright Blessings, Kim http://www.webconx.com/2000/solar/solar.htmhttp://www.webconx.com/2 000/solar/solar.htm See below... Well, I search this new site and found a new url for the article, but that page can not be displayed. I wonder if it has changed again. http://ww2.green-trust.org:8383/2000/solar/sunontap/page2.htmhttp:// ww2.green-trust.org:8383/2000/solar/sunontap/page2.htm I recognize the blurb as being part of the article that had the plans in it. Thanks for the help in trying to locate this article. BB, Kim SUN ON TAP The Best We Know by Frederic S. Langa You Can Cut Hot Water Bill By Two-Thirds... With A Fine-Tuned Passive Solar Heater I like that one too. It's lifted from Rodale's New Shelter - July/August 1981. Here you go: http://www.green-trust.org/2000/solar/sunontap/Default.htm Not only that but Steve's site search gave you the wrong url. What a mess! :-( Download it while the going's good. Regards Keith At 09:55 AM 11/15/2004, you wrote: It really is a case of ask and ye shall receive :) http://www.green-trust.org/main.htm new URL for webconx.com Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. What was the url Kim? Probably I can find it for you. Steve seems to change his urls like other people change their underwear, and he doesn't leave jump links. I've had to change all his urls at our site six times now, so probably I'm getting good at it. :-( Regards Keith Bright Blessings, Kim ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
