http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/evworld/files/price%20of%20gas%20San%20Diego%20February%2018%2C%202003.JPG
This station is a mile or less from the ocean and is somewhat toward the high
side, though it is far from the highest around.
Interestingly, the 76 station down the street has
Just saw Diesel #2 for $2.10 last night!! Things are right sizing .
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, murdoch wrote:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/evworld/files/price%20of%20gas%20San%20Dieg
%20February%2018%2C%202003.JPG
This station is a mile or less from the ocean and is somewhat toward
Yes, that's right Steve - I was looking at pounds/acre of oil. Gallons
of oil per acre would be in that range or actually below. Now, are we
talking US gallons or Imperial gallons? Or is the US gallon the new
Imperial gallon? Or should we all just use metric (I'll vote for the
latter!)
;-)
Speaking of oil palms, how about those oil palms of the
northchokecherries
Tests have shown that a car can run for about 7,000 kilometres on a
hectare of wheat converted into ethanol, 14,000 km on canola-based
biodiesel and 30,000 km on a hectare of chokecherries.
Greg,
First off, I would hazard to guess that you haven't particulary
versed yourself on the Headwaters battles of either yor or
present, nor how the ever so precious legal recourses have been
and are being exhausted, with the courts peculiarly siding
predominantly with the perverted notion that
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: The oil in Iraq
Wrong again, You may not have been paying attention as
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: The oil in Iraq
The president is doing what he thinks is right and
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From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 18:53
Subject: [biofuel] Oil reserves and The oil in Iraq
Puuh, sweat, sweat,
Dear Greg,
Good, I suppose that you must know your boolean algebra and the basis for
I have a 94 Dodge conversion van with a 318 gasoline engine. It has
over 200,000 miles on it and I am thinking that I will need a new
engine soon. Does anyone have any ideas on what would be a good
diesel transplant? The Cummings diesel used in the Dodge Ram Pickup
uses the same tranny but is
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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 23:22
Subject: Hog Snot!!! was Re: Torture Tactics - Yes, in America was Re:
[biofuel] Re: The oil in Iraq
Greg,
First off, I would hazard to guess that you haven't
I kept out of the discussions so far, but now I want to kick in...
some reactions.
I'm from Europe, Belgium, and I agree, Americans are not THE bad guys... but
be honest, your not (I mean the presedent, senate, lobbyists,... those who
make the rullings) saints eithers.
You can read the
Greg,
I am glad that you found the numbers interesting and that it obviously
enhanced your view.
Your stumbling block regarding the maps is nothing, compared when some
Americans try to make maps of the world. The individual numbers are the
most interesting anyway.
Regarding known (proven)
ethanol or oil? I'm assuming ethanol from chokecherries?
Steve Spence
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From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How many normal cars can you buy for the cost of one Chevy Suburban?
Surely the fuel saving alone would pay for a smaller car.
Depends on normal. I paid 18,000 dollars (US) for my 1999 Turbo diesel
Suburban. I also run it on Biodiesel. Fuel savings? Even if it got 10 MPG
instead of 22,
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:08:40 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storyprint.cfm?storyID=3101056
Thanks for the info. I hope if works out for them. Over the years I've heard
allusions to the energy intensity and waste-disposal problems of present forms
of PV manufacturing, so
Jatropha seeds are mainly utilized for their medicinal properties in India. It
is also commonly referred to as 'purging nut'. The latex, oil, twigs, wood and
leaves are all used externally for healing wounds, to stop bleeding, to treat
rheumatism, skin diseases, leprosy, etc.
The manure
Cool, Yes I believe you are right. Somewhere around 70%.
I very much doubt it - more like a minority, maybe not even a very big one.
Eg (close your eyes and point anywhere), the anti-war protests:
...It was the wide array of people from all walks of life - high
school students showing they
Hi,
I've watched this discussion for a while and there appears to be no
reference to methane hydrates, which are well distributed throughout the
world and are well positioned to readily serve the coastal U.S.
population when developed.
While there are a variety of data sources, I will leave
I didn't think anyone used the imperial gallon anymore.
that was 5 us quarts, right?
That's pretty close!
One Imperial gallon equals about 1.2 US gallons.
One Imperial gallon = 4.546 liters
One US gallon = 3.785 liters
One UK gallon = 1.201 US gallons
Hello Hakan
Keith,
Sometimes we need the Trolls for adjustments of the
grey scales.
Oh I agree - but there are trolls and trolls, and this was one we can
do without and not suffer a great deal for lack of him, I do believe.
Grey matter rather than grey scales.
Look at the positive effect of
See also:
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15169
U.N. Charade: Timing of Iraq War in Bush's Hands from Start
By Michael T. Klare, Pacific News Service
February 12, 2003
http://www.presentdanger.org/commentary/2003/0302milplan.html
Pentagon Planning, Not Diplomacy, Sets U.S. Agenda on
I don't think of chokecherries as bearing much.
The blossoms are one of the lovliest scents in the world.
Truly exquisite.
Kirk
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Subject: Re:
Greg,
Taking your previously condemnatory responses in hand with your
in great part butter my bread on all sides response issued
below on the same subject, It's rather difficult to see the
benefit of consuming much more time playing hide and seek with
your perspectives on civil disobedience.
On
Jatropha seeds are mainly utilized for their medicinal properties in
India. It is also commonly referred to as 'purging nut'. The
latex, oil, twigs, wood and leaves are all used externally for
healing wounds, to stop bleeding, to treat rheumatism, skin
diseases, leprosy, etc.
The manure
Hi G.R.
Maybe not in this particular thread, but there's quite a lot about it
in the archives:
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel
Search for methane hydrate (with quotes). Also coalbed methane.
Best
Keith
Hi,
I've watched this discussion for a while and there appears to be
On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 09:03 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
I'll say it again - many factors are more important than claimed high
yields, especially local conditions.
I had a good example of that last growing season. I raised two varieties
of mustard -- white (AKA yellow, Brassica
A bit weak, especially for Krugman... but it's a start, maybe about
the maximum-sized bite the average cable-viewer could chew on without
choking.
Keith
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/18/opinion/18KRUG.html
Behind the Great Divide
By PAUL KRUGMAN
There has been much speculation why Europe
Additionally, try this:
http://nnytech.net/~archive2/index.php?keywords=methane+hydratelist=bio
fuelbrowse=1
I apologize for such a long list of results, this is the beta website
- I'll put it on my list of to-dos :)
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No one is sure if the hydrates can be harvested safely.
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Hi Keith,
Very weak I would say. I think that Bush got a couple of
warning shots across his bow, Byrd's speech was one of them.
I have never seen such a speech before, when US prepared
for action. Normally the standard is 100% behind the president.
As I said earlier, how can they solve post
Hi G.R.
Ready for use technology? Safe shot?
Otherwise a good idea for the uncertain future.
Hakan
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Hi,
I've watched this discussion for a while and there appears to be no
reference to methane hydrates, which are well distributed throughout the
world
Ken:
Also the automatic dodge transmission used on the Cummins diesel engine do
not hold up. Look at ads on used dodge trucks with a diesel. Every truck
with an automatic state rebuilt transmission. Watch for a little time,
and you will also notice the problem.
Harley
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Yes it was a new one to me as well, although there are certainly a very
large number of plants, shrubs and trees worldwide that have a
significant oil content in the seeds. It seems you should be able to
ferment the pulp and produce ethanol, as any other fruit, but they do
not mention it, not
Joe:
International engine is casting a 6 cylinder diesel engine for the Ford
motor company. It is a cut down version of the 8 cylinder diesel engine
now used in the F-250 and F-350 trucks. The new smaller version diesel is
slated for the so called SUV vehicles. I was not told when they are
Can you believe?
Sounds like Stalin.
Kirk
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Subject: THE DOMESTIC SECURITY ENHANCEMENT ACT OF 2003/A PLAIN ANALYSIS
As you read this remember who the terrorists are here. If you have any
Darn it!! That's 2003, 2003.
On Feb. 20, 2003 The War Behind Closed Doors examines the hidden
story of what is really driving the Bush administration to war with Iraq.
Are the publicly reported reasons - Saddam's weapons of mass
destruction and U.S. strategic interests in the
Reminds me of 15 years ago or so when Reagan first started going on about
Terrorists. I thought: for one thing, how are we defining them? Now it Looks
like that's pretty much up to Mssrs. Fleischer, Card, Ashcroft, et. al.,
depending on their mood that day. Or perhaps I should use the German
Submitted but not passed yet as I understand. The first one went through
pretty easily.
:(
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Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:29 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] FW: THE DOMESTIC SECURITY ENHANCEMENT ACT OF
Excuse the off topic but when I read this I was truly amazed.
http://www.reformation.org/variola.html
Kirk
Also see http://www.whale.to/a/campbell2.html
Rsum of Experiments on Variola.
By CHARLES A. R. CAMPBELL, M. D.
San Antonio, Texas.
Mr. President and Members of the Bexar County
Comments?
Kirk
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From: Andrew White
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:31 PM
To: kirk
Subject: Re: Iowa Grain Quality Initiative
Why the hell dont the Canadian simply add a few percent castor oil to their
diesel as in addition to having a good high vaporisation
The title says it all:
EPA finds trucks, SUVs among most smog-producing vehicles
[this is news, just like tobacco being addictive]
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Biofuel at Journey to
Not so much out here west. They are part of several Native American
ceremony's. Sundance, Crying on the Hill, etc
On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Steve Spence wrote:
I wonder if you can also ferment the cherries. I was not aware the pits
had
oil potential. They grow almost everywhere.
Steve
I miss my trooper . :(
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, studio53 wrote:
It's a good motor. I have the 86 Isuzu Trooper turbo diesel running on
veg
oil. Bulletproof and as heavy as the Titanic anchor.
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Jesse Parris |
We don't grow it here.
Canola biodiesel at very low treat rate provides excellent lubricity
function.
The mustard and chokecherry are being looked into for good reasons - as
high oil yield low input, drought resistant future crops that do not
compete with food oils, for fuel use, not as
This link will take you to a site that tells you how to charge a large
deep cycle battery every two or three days without the use of a
generator, solar panel, or even a hand crank. This technique uses static
electricity to recharge batteries. There is a lot of good info at this
site, spend some
Keith:
I was using the 70 % rating that was being used by the US TV news media. I
keep forgetting this site is world wide. The 70% was taken from poles done
here in the USA. The TV news media did show the anti-war rallies in New
York, and England, and France. The protests Anti-war,
You cook them and squeeze the juice out. You can make wine with that or a
very nice pancake syrup.
The wine has a tendency to lay you low. In moderation only if you know what
is good for you.
Kirk
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Well Keith, I got a whole diferent view of that web site. I
just spent a couple of hours there but, I didn't click on
any of the Zeta info, because I read that stuff years ago.
What I saw was a group of young guys, probably a lot like
you and me at that age, who are not running around
screaming
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