[Biofuel] reply to Gregory
Do not put two barrels of B100 on the roof of your car. The weight would exceed the limits of the roof before the additional stress of pot-holes would send the barrels crashing down on you. Have a class I hitch installed on your car and rent/purchase a light duty utility trailer to haul the barrels. Mike Gregory wrote: Meanwhile, my new misery is trying to find a way to get my car to hold two barrels of B100, for it's delivery cost is way up there, at $50 a drop off, and the only way to offset that is to get two barrels instead of one. So I'm looking into a roof rack with two aero dynamic hard luggage carriers, fit with auxiliary tanks, 4 smaller tanks in the trunk; one on both sides rear of the wheel wells, in the space between the underside of the trunk lid, reaching down into the depths of the rocker panels, another under the rear self tray, spanning across the rear of the trunk, and one shaped as a spare, in, where else? The spare tire compartment under the trunk floor. These all will have to be linked by steel braided rubber hoses to the main tank, or the main tank will have to have a suction pump, hose / holster / nozzle / activator for scavenging oil from all these different cells. I will also have to install heavy duty air bag suspension supplements inside the rear coil springs to keep the rear end from dragging and grating the bumper and trunk off the car. I will then procure a space saver spare, deflate it half way, place it on the drivers seat, and use it to nurse my aching butt, which by then will really hurt, cause all this BS really burns my ass! 8-D Seriously, I'm in Bergen County, Hackensack NJ, USA, and have no place what so ever to hide a barrel of anything, so, if there is any co-op activities around here that anyone is aware of, or someone is getting the stuff delivered to their garage and wouldn't mind ordering and storing, for a fee, another barrel for someone else to help cut the delivery costs, please let me know. Thanks. Gregory ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Filtering before washing
or not there would be any benefit to run the settled but yet unwashed BD through a fuel filter once the glycerine has been drained. Any thoughts accompanied by explanation? Thanks Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] usual quantities
- Original Message - From: rbarr8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: [Biofuel] usual quantities After reading many posts on making my own bio-diesel I came to the conclusion it might be best to use the full package of lye rather I have the 25 kg bag and what I did was to work on a relatively dry day and make up predetermined amounts of NaOH in zip lock baggies ( I use 400gr/batch so that is what I put it). Then I resealed the unused portion of the big bag and put the smaller bags in an air tight pail leaving a measured number in a glass artichoke jar (it's pretty big and can hold about 5kg in bags). When I need some catalyst I simply pop open the jar, take out a bag and re-close the jar immediately. The bag with the re-measured amount of lye gets dumped into the methanol carboy and sealed immediately. than opening a package and then trying to seal it from moisture. You're not going to be able to exclude ALL moisture as even the air has some in it, the idea is to keep it to as low an amount as possible. What quantities do lye, As small as 500gr, although I buy in 25kg. Sulpheric Acid, Don't know and Methanol come in? smallest is 1 liter and largest 200 liter drums for our use anyway. I am assuming you don't mean rail car fulls? Luc Thanks, roger ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing
on 11/30/04 4:54 PM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, while pondering my reactor/wash tank set up, I wondered about whether or not there would be any benefit to run the settled but yet unwashed BD through a fuel filter once the glycerine has been drained. Any thoughts accompanied by explanation? The problem I see is that anything which might precipitate out of solution (and thus be caught by a filter) would always precipitate BETTER after a water wash. Filtering before water wash probly wouldn't catch much of anything. OTOH, if you add water while the glycerine layer is still in there (as I always do), you DO precipitate out any gums that were still in the oil, and those might be caught in a filter. Adding water, and mixing very gently, while the glycerine is still present is a very effective way to get a lot of crap (soap, glycerides, alkali, excess alcohol, gums) into the glycerine layer and out of the picture before risking emulsification in the water wash. (The glycerine suppresses emulsion). The few times I've skipped that step (one just recently), the soap level in the water wash was much higher than usual.. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Drive better and longer. Use biofuels. Luc - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:58 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion Fighting with the growing problem of SP-M, I found out what is in most peoples mind and most at the time. As a result I have the following suggestion, Make your car happy, drive better and longer. Use biofuels. This has to be a winner! LOL Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing
would be any benefit to filtering before doing a routine wash. Luc PS: I am still to much of a purist (beginner) to start changing methods right now, so it is traditional for me for now. Thanks for the comeback - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing on 11/30/04 4:54 PM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, while pondering my reactor/wash tank set up, I wondered about whether or not there would be any benefit to run the settled but yet unwashed BD through a fuel filter once the glycerine has been drained. Any thoughts accompanied by explanation? The problem I see is that anything which might precipitate out of solution (and thus be caught by a filter) would always precipitate BETTER after a water wash. Filtering before water wash probly wouldn't catch much of anything. OTOH, if you add water while the glycerine layer is still in there (as I always do), you DO precipitate out any gums that were still in the oil, and those might be caught in a filter. Adding water, and mixing very gently, while the glycerine is still present is a very effective way to get a lot of crap (soap, glycerides, alkali, excess alcohol, gums) into the glycerine layer and out of the picture before risking emulsification in the water wash. (The glycerine suppresses emulsion). The few times I've skipped that step (one just recently), the soap level in the water wash was much higher than usual.. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
wash in first stage settling, was [Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing]
the glyc is something that was suggested to me several times. how do people feel about that in general? Ken Provost wrote: on 11/30/04 4:54 PM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, while pondering my reactor/wash tank set up, I wondered about whether or not there would be any benefit to run the settled but yet unwashed BD through a fuel filter once the glycerine has been drained. Any thoughts accompanied by explanation? The problem I see is that anything which might precipitate out of solution (and thus be caught by a filter) would always precipitate BETTER after a water wash. Filtering before water wash probly wouldn't catch much of anything. OTOH, if you add water while the glycerine layer is still in there (as I always do), you DO precipitate out any gums that were still in the oil, and those might be caught in a filter. Adding water, and mixing very gently, while the glycerine is still present is a very effective way to get a lot of crap (soap, glycerides, alkali, excess alcohol, gums) into the glycerine layer and out of the picture before risking emulsification in the water wash. (The glycerine suppresses emulsion). The few times I've skipped that step (one just recently), the soap level in the water wash was much higher than usual.. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
This is a really good bumper sticker! Peggy Or make it short and sweet for short bumpers :) Drive better and longer. Use biofuels. Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
You are a great poet, Tamsyn. Thanks for the post. P. Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion I'm new here to the list, but I couldn't resist taking a gander at this question (it involves playing with words, which I love!). What about these ideas? Biofuels: Better for Biodiversity Boosting biodiversity with biofuels Biofuels: Shopping smarter, driving better Biofuels: Buying is Believing! Use biofuels and give a boost to biodiversity Biofuels: Just Better Altogether Or to play off the one from the last post: Drive stronger and longer with biofuels --tamsyn ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] GTL
Thank you Phillip: All type of contacts and information are very welcome. I know GTL is not a panacea but in Bolivia we have plenty of gas and very little oil, so we are importing diesel and I am interested in alternative and cleaner fuels. Your kind help and response is higly appreciated. Jose Luis - Mensaje Original - Desde: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Martes, Noviembre 30, 2004 11:11 am Asunto: Re: [Biofuel] GTL Jose, I have some contacts for you. While working at a large energy company one of my buddies worked on GTL plants. I will see if I can get a hold of him. Remember that GTL is not the only answer and very large investement is required in infrastructure, capital investment, and energy streams. I am sure there are others on this blog (Keith?) who can assist you too. P. WOlfe --- Jose Luis Hernandez Quisbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fellows: I will appreciate any information, links, regarding GTL (gas to liquids) processes and technology to obtain diesel and gasoline from Natural Gas. Thank you in advance. Jose L. Hernandez Bolivia South America ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
This too is a good slogan. Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion Fighting with the growing problem of SPAM, I found out what is in most peoples mind and most at the time. As a result I have the following suggestion, Make your car happy, drive better and longer. Use biofuels. This has to be a winner! LOL Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] winterizing
searches have turned up empty. -- Kenneth Kron President Bay Area Biofuel http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415-867-8067 What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it! Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] in line oil heater
2nd message has anyone done any work on a inline heater ? what i am thinking of doing is to take a small stainless steel cooking pot weld the lid on cut two holes for pipe fittings place this on a portable electric stove i would use it to keep the tempreture up while mixing My old processor was a old natural gas water heater (right price but diddnt draine well. it will be used only for pre heating ) I have started to build a cone bottom processor and was thinking that if i was to heat the oil inline i wouldnt need to put a heater into it. What do you think??? regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
Well, kinda correct. Different engines have different configurations, but for a standard inline four stroke engine here's how it is: The block has the cylinders in it with the pistons running up and down inside them. To close them off to get compression there's a big chunk of metal (the head) that bolts to the top of the whole engine block to seal it off. This is also where the valves are kept. The head gasket is a large flat sheet of sealing material (can be metal or fiber) with holes in it to allow the bolts to go thru, the coolant and oil to flow, and for the cylinders. The head gasket sits between the head and the block - sandwiched. As far as the torques that the bolts get tightened to - it's likely higher for a diesel, but I don't know them by heart. I look it up every time I do a job cause for every car they're different. Just depends on how it's all engineered. But yes, doing a head gasket job on a diesel is almost exactly the same as on a gas engine - just surface differences. If you get a good service manual it will lead you thru the job step by step. Erik --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know nothing fron nothing about mechanics but I do know that a head gasket is a head gasket. It's the thing that runs around the engine block's head so oil doesn't do what it is doing. I don't know about the tensions either but I would ony immagine that it is higher for a diesel than a gas car, someone else can fill in the details. Luc - Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:07 PM Subject: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor? When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they seemed to call it, and from memory their description of it was very similiar to what you're calling the shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside, but I didn't dare tear into it without either the knowledge or tools. Thanks! Erik --- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] winterizing
brief searches have turned up empty. There are some listed here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter Keith Addison -- Kenneth Kron President Bay Area Biofuel http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415-867-8067 What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it! Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Luc - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion This is a really good bumper sticker! Peggy Or make it short and sweet for short bumpers :) Drive better and longer. Use biofuels. Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing
Below... on 11/30/04 4:54 PM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, while pondering my reactor/wash tank set up, I wondered about whether or not there would be any benefit to run the settled but yet unwashed BD through a fuel filter once the glycerine has been drained. Any thoughts accompanied by explanation? The problem I see is that anything which might precipitate out of solution (and thus be caught by a filter) would always precipitate BETTER after a water wash. Filtering before water wash probly wouldn't catch much of anything. OTOH, if you add water while the glycerine layer is still in there (as I always do), you DO precipitate out any gums that were still in the oil, and those might be caught in a filter. Adding water, and mixing very gently, while the glycerine is still present is a very effective way to get a lot of crap (soap, glycerides, alkali, excess alcohol, gums) into the glycerine layer and out of the picture before risking emulsification in the water wash. (The glycerine suppresses emulsion). The few times I've skipped that step (one just recently), the soap level in the water wash was much higher than usual.. -K Is it perhaps more important when making ethyl esters (as you do) than with methyl esters? It didn't seem to make any difference when we tried it (with methyl esters). A deterrent for us and others is that it would rule out subsequent use of the glyc by-product as a heating fuel, leaving a disposal problem instead of a useful product. Somebody advised that adding just 5% water to the by-product made it burn hotter, but we tried it and it didn't work well, more water would work even less well. Is it possible to separate the by-product into its components (glyc, FFA, sodium/potassium salts) following a water wash? Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] winterizing
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Scroll down to Products Luc - Original Message - From: Kenneth Kron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:27 AM Subject: [Biofuel] winterizing Anyone have suggestions on commonly available winterizers? Some brief searches have turned up empty. -- Kenneth Kron President Bay Area Biofuel http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415-867-8067 What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it! Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] in line oil heater
- Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 2:08 AM Subject: [Biofuel] in line oil heater hello all 2nd message has anyone done any work on a inline heater ? what i am thinking of doing is to take a small stainless steel cooking pot weld the lid on cut two holes for pipe fittings place this on a portable electric stove i would use it to keep the tempreture up while mixing You're planning on adding the methoxide via this in-line thingy ? My old processor was a old natural gas water heater (right price but diddnt draine well. it will be used only for pre heating ) I have started to build a cone bottom processor and was thinking that if i was to heat the oil inline i wouldnt need to put a heater into it. If you are going the route of building a cone bottom (in metal I assume) then why not just incorporate an immersion heater where you KNOW the temp will be right inside the reaction chamber and where you KNOW the methoxide mix will be complete and uniform ? Sounds like doing the in-line is a make-work project, adding work where it is not necessary. Besides the transfer from the in-line to the reaction chamber will cause a slight decrease in temp due to the inside of the reactor not being brought up to temp but depending on the oil to do it and that may not give you the temperature needed to get a complete reaction. Luc What do you think??? regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Green Energy and Electric Companies
World's Power Firms 'Failing over Clean Energy Plans' By Amanda Brown, PA Environment Correspondent 30 Nov 2004 http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3824641 WWF ranks 'green power' of electric companies 30, Nov 2004 http://panda.org/about_wwf/where_we_work/europe/what_we_do/policy_and_events/epo/news.cfm?uNewsID=16840 Brussels, Belgium/Gland, Switzerland ö WWF, the global conservation organisation, ranks 72 electric power companies in 18 industrialised countries according to their use of and investment in green power in a report released today. Ranking Power [PDF 607Kb, 74 page http://www.panda.org/downloads/climate/rankingpowerreportbranded.pdf ] shows that the power sector, the biggest single contributor to climate change, is failing to significantly invest in renewable and efficient energy. On a scoreboard between 0 and 10, almost two-thirds of the companies received a ranking of less than 1 and more than 90% less than 3. In response, WWF is launching a campaign ö PowerSwitch! ö which aims at cleaning up the power sector and building a movement of activists around the world to urge companies and governments to switch from coal to clean. With PowerSwitch! WWF wants to expand the use of renewable energy; improve the efficiency of domestic appliances, buildings and industrial motors; increase the efficiency of power plants through recycling of waste heat. The campaign is launched today in 20 countries, together with the web site http://www.panda.org/powerswitch. The power sector is the biggest single polluter of greenhouse gases, responsible for 37% of CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels, said Jennifer Morgan, Director of WWF Climate Change Programme. However, the companies analysed are completely unprepared for fundamental change in the way they invest in clean energy. If they keep polluting our atmosphere by burning carbon rich coal, the window of opportunity to avoid a global warming crisis will soon be closed. The Ranking Power report scores the performance of power companies in terms of use, sale and investment in renewable energy and highly efficient natural gas of 72 leading power companies that, all together, produce two thirds of electricity generated in OECD countries (Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development) and Russia. Among American firms, 24% racked up a cumulative score of zero and 76% came in below one. European companies performed better, but still poorly. No European company scored 0 and 57% scored more than 1. However, in only around 20% of European companies surveyed renewable energy contributed more than 2% of the electricity they produce. The best performing company was Iberdrola of Spain with 4.3 points, but another Spanish company, Union Fenosa, scored last among Europeans with 0.4. Second is FPL Group (USA) with 4.1 and third ScottishPower (UK) with 3.7. The very last, scoring 0 points, are 7 US companies, 5 Japanese and 1 Australian. The use of renewable fuel is extremely limited in Japan and Australia, where the fuel mix is often dominated by lignite coal, one of the dirtiest and most carbon rich fuels of all. According to WWF, the power sector's contribution to climate change threatens the very development that electricity promotes. Unless action is taken now, millions of people will be put at risk from rising sea levels, loss of fresh water, extreme weather and disease. Yet, three quarters of the companies were not willing to disclose their strategy to tackle global warming. They fail to recognise the harm their inaction poses to millions around the planet, said Jennifer Morgan. These companies lack the accountability needed to win public trust and are vulnerable to charges of arrogance. Notes to editors: ð The study ranks companies of 17 of the 30 OECD member States and Russia (Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, United States). ð The companies are ranked in terms of their production, sale and investment in renewable energy and natural gas-fired Combined Heat and Power (CHP). By gas-CHP is meant power plants that supply heat as well as electricity to consumers or industries. WWF solicited information directly from companies and relied on company reports when companies were unresponsive. These contained adequate information about a company's current energy generation, but generally did not reveal future investment plans: many companies remain secretive. ð Renewable energy recognised by WWF are wind, solar, small hydro and biomass. WWF has chosen natural gas-CHP as the second-best choice after renewable energy, but WWF believes it should only be a bridging technology for
Re: [Biofuel] GTL
Dear Jose, I have a couple engineering friends from Bolivia. Is there any possibility to first consider Bolivian homegrown vegtable oil/soy/ to create biofuel? How about creating a Bolivian alternative fuel/biodiesel...then evolve to 100% soy or some derivative to become independent? Most of my contacts are from my former career at a large petroleum company. GTL development is under development in Malaysia and other countries with large capital investment. Once I email my contact they will either be all over you to develop GTL or want to find out if there is serious capital and politcal will available. For example, a GTL plant was proposed in Vallejo, CA (near San Francisco) but was stopped for politcal reasons. P.Wolfe --- Jose Luis Hernandez Quisbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Phillip: All type of contacts and information are very welcome. I know GTL is not a panacea but in Bolivia we have plenty of gas and very little oil, so we are importing diesel and I am interested in alternative and cleaner fuels. Your kind help and response is higly appreciated. Jose Luis - Mensaje Original - Desde: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Martes, Noviembre 30, 2004 11:11 am Asunto: Re: [Biofuel] GTL Jose, I have some contacts for you. While working at a large energy company one of my buddies worked on GTL plants. I will see if I can get a hold of him. Remember that GTL is not the only answer and very large investement is required in infrastructure, capital investment, and energy streams. I am sure there are others on this blog (Keith?) who can assist you too. P. WOlfe --- Jose Luis Hernandez Quisbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Fellows: I will appreciate any information, links, regarding GTL (gas to liquids) processes and technology to obtain diesel and gasoline from Natural Gas. Thank you in advance. Jose L. Hernandez Bolivia South America ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
Alex: Do yourself a big favor. If you have never dealt with a head gasket, take the engine to a reputable mechanic and have them check out the head before replacement. Then they will install the head in the proper sequence, torque the bolts in the proper sequence and adjust the valves if they are solid lifters. You can do this yourself but a diesel engine is not a good platform to be educated on. You will make some mistake and it will be costly. Sorry. Gene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Lane Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Well, kinda correct. Different engines have different configurations, but for a standard inline four stroke engine here's how it is: The block has the cylinders in it with the pistons running up and down inside them. To close them off to get compression there's a big chunk of metal (the head) that bolts to the top of the whole engine block to seal it off. This is also where the valves are kept. The head gasket is a large flat sheet of sealing material (can be metal or fiber) with holes in it to allow the bolts to go thru, the coolant and oil to flow, and for the cylinders. The head gasket sits between the head and the block - sandwiched. As far as the torques that the bolts get tightened to - it's likely higher for a diesel, but I don't know them by heart. I look it up every time I do a job cause for every car they're different. Just depends on how it's all engineered. But yes, doing a head gasket job on a diesel is almost exactly the same as on a gas engine - just surface differences. If you get a good service manual it will lead you thru the job step by step. Erik --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know nothing fron nothing about mechanics but I do know that a head gasket is a head gasket. It's the thing that runs around the engine block's head so oil doesn't do what it is doing. I don't know about the tensions either but I would ony immagine that it is higher for a diesel than a gas car, someone else can fill in the details. Luc - Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:07 PM Subject: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ö Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Filtering before washing
on 12/1/04 3:55 AM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it perhaps more important when making ethyl esters (as you do) than with methyl esters? It didn't seem to make any difference when we tried it (with methyl esters). Absolutely -- the ethanol process uses a LOT more alkali, and is more prone to poor conversion, incomplete separation, etc. However, I think if you used methanol with very dirty oil, and a straight base-catalyzed process, you'd notice much less soap in the wash water after including a water+glycerine step. A deterrent for us and others is that it would rule out subsequent use of the glyc by-product as a heating fuel, leaving a disposal problem instead of a useful product. OK -- I never tried to do that Is it possible to separate the by-product into its components (glyc, FFA, sodium/potassium salts) following a water wash? It's still easy to separate out the FFA and excess alcohol (tho ethanol comes out hydrated, of course). Probably harder to crystallize out salts, but I never do that either -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a disc pump coupling, if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the pump, just to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, and pump must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it only cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u know, kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling just that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump i somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not getting it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to snaandyne specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so far as to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not the rubeerrr , buck, Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor? When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they seemed to call it, and from memory their description of it was very similiar to what you're calling the shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside, but I didn't dare tear into it without either the knowledge or tools. Thanks! Erik --- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone drinks it anyawya _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] old diesel engine
some are very espanese to rebuildl just because of thei age , rarity, Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 08:11:54 -0800 Alex: Do yourself a big favor. If you have never dealt with a head gasket, take the engine to a reputable mechanic and have them check out the head before replacement. Then they will install the head in the proper sequence, torque the bolts in the proper sequence and adjust the valves if they are solid lifters. You can do this yourself but a diesel engine is not a good platform to be educated on. You will make some mistake and it will be costly. Sorry. Gene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Lane Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Well, kinda correct. Different engines have different configurations, but for a standard inline four stroke engine here's how it is: The block has the cylinders in it with the pistons running up and down inside them. To close them off to get compression there's a big chunk of metal (the head) that bolts to the top of the whole engine block to seal it off. This is also where the valves are kept. The head gasket is a large flat sheet of sealing material (can be metal or fiber) with holes in it to allow the bolts to go thru, the coolant and oil to flow, and for the cylinders. The head gasket sits between the head and the block - sandwiched. As far as the torques that the bolts get tightened to - it's likely higher for a diesel, but I don't know them by heart. I look it up every time I do a job cause for every car they're different. Just depends on how it's all engineered. But yes, doing a head gasket job on a diesel is almost exactly the same as on a gas engine - just surface differences. If you get a good service manual it will lead you thru the job step by step. Erik --- Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know nothing fron nothing about mechanics but I do know that a head gasket is a head gasket. It's the thing that runs around the engine block's head so oil doesn't do what it is doing. I don't know about the tensions either but I would ony immagine that it is higher for a diesel than a gas car, someone else can fill in the details. Luc - Original Message - From: alex burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:07 PM Subject: [Biofuel] old diesel engine Hello All this is my first ever message ( Please forgive my spelling.) I have so far only used the single stage method but will in time start the two stage method. i have limited knowlage about diesel engines my first question is rebuilding a diesel engine much different to rebuilding a petrol engine ? the reason i ask is i have been offered a old diesel for testing which is said to have a blown head gasket (oil is getting into the coolant would this be a the head gasket or some other gasket or seal??.) regards Alex [ememail.gif] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ö Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Elections/Public 2004 - Chomsky
http://www.zmag.org 29 Nov 2004 Elections/Public 2004 Noam Chomsky The elections of November 2004 have received a great deal of discussion, with exultation in some quarters, despair in others, and general lamentation about a divided nation. They are likely to have policy consequences, particularly harmful to the public in the domestic arena, and to the world with regard to the transformation of the military, which has led some prominent strategic analysts to warn of ultimate doom and to hope that US militarism and aggressiveness will be countered by a coalition of peace-loving states, led by - China! (John Steinbruner and Nancy Gallagher, Daedalus). We have come to a pretty pass when such words are expressed in the most respectable and sober journals. It is also worth noting how deep is the despair of the authors over the state of American democracy. Whether or not the assessment is merited is for activists to determine. Though significant in their consequences, the elections tell us very little about the state of the country, or the popular mood. There are, however, other sources from which we can learn a great deal that carries important lessons. Public opinion in the US is intensively monitored, and while caution and care in interpretation are always necessary, these studies are valuable resources. We can also see why the results, though public, are kept under wraps by the doctrinal institutions. That is true of major and highly informative studies of public opinion released right before the election, notably by the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations (CCFR) and the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the U. of Maryland (PIPA), to which I will return. One conclusion is that the elections conferred no mandate for anything, in fact, barely took place, in any serious sense of the term election. That is by no means a novel conclusion. Reagan's victory in 1980 reflected the decay of organized party structures, and the vast mobilization of God and cash in the successful candidacy of a figure once marginal to the `vital center' of American political life, representing the continued disintegration of those political coalitions and economic structures that have given party politics some stability and definition during the past generation (Thomas Ferguson and Joel Rogers, Hidden Election, 1981). In the same valuable collection of essays, Walter Dean Burnham described the election as further evidence of a crucial comparative peculiarity of the American political system: the total absence of a socialist or laborite mass party as an organized competitor in the electoral market, accounting for much of the class-skewed abstention rates and the minimal significance of issues. Thus of the 28% of the electorate who voted for Reagan, 11% gave as their primary reason he's a real conservative. In Reagan's landslide victory of 1984, with just under 30% of the electorate, the percentage dropped to 4% and a majority of voters hoped that his legislative program would not be enacted. What these prominent political scientists describe is part of the powerful backlash against the terrifying crisis of democracy of the 1960s, which threatened to democratize the society, and, despite enormous efforts to crush this threat to order and discipline, has had far-reaching effects on consciousness and social practices. The post-1960s era has been marked by substantial growth of popular movements dedicated to greater justice and freedom, and unwillingness to tolerate the brutal aggression and violence that had previously been granted free rein. The Vietnam war is a dramatic illustration, naturally suppressed because of the lessons it teaches about the civilizing impact of popular mobilization. The war against South Vietnam launched by JFK in 1962, after years of US-backed state terror that had killed tens of thousands of people, was brutal and barbaric from the outset: bombing, chemical warfare to destroy food crops so as to starve out the civilian support for the indigenous resistance, programs to drive millions of people to virtual concentration camps or urban slums to eliminate its popular base. By the time protests reached a substantial scale, the highly respected and quite hawkish Vietnam specialist and military historian Bernard Fall wondered whether Viet-Nam as a cultural and historic entity would escape extinction as the countryside literally dies under the blows of the largest military machine ever unleashed on an area of this size - particularly South Vietnam, always the main target of the US assault. And when protest did finally develop, many years too late, it was mostly directed against the peripheral crimes: the extension of the war against the South to the rest ofIndochina - terrible crimes, but secondary ones. * State managers are well aware that they no longer have that freedom. Wars against much weaker enemies - the only
Re: [Biofuel] reply to Mike
You might want to look at a surplus us army water buffalo. The cost is $2,500. but it is stainless steel and probably can be sold years later for the same amount of money. Check it out here: http://www.colemans.com/milveh.htm Bill Lemorande Milwaukee, WI - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: [Biofuel] reply to Gregory Do not put two barrels of B100 on the roof of your car. The weight would exceed the limits of the roof before the additional stress of pot-holes would send the barrels crashing down on you. Have a class I hitch installed on your car and rent/purchase a light duty utility trailer to haul the barrels. Mike Gregory wrote: Meanwhile, my new misery is trying to find a way to get my car to hold two barrels of B100, for it's delivery cost is way up there, at $50 a drop off, and the only way to offset that is to get two barrels instead of one. So I'm looking into a roof rack with two aero dynamic hard luggage carriers, fit with auxiliary tanks, 4 smaller tanks in the trunk; one on both sides rear of the wheel wells, in the space between the underside of the trunk lid, reaching down into the depths of the rocker panels, another under the rear self tray, spanning across the rear of the trunk, and one shaped as a spare, in, where else? The spare tire compartment under the trunk floor. These all will have to be linked by steel braided rubber hoses to the main tank, or the main tank will have to have a suction pump, hose / holster / nozzle / activator for scavenging oil from all these different cells. I will also have to install heavy duty air bag suspension supplements inside the rear coil springs to keep the rear end from dragging and grating the bumper and trunk off the car. I will then procure a space saver spare, deflate it half way, place it on the drivers seat, and use it to nurse my aching butt, which by then will really hurt, cause all this BS really burns my ass! 8-D Seriously, I'm in Bergen County, Hackensack NJ, USA, and have no place what so ever to hide a barrel of anything, so, if there is any co-op activities around here that anyone is aware of, or someone is getting the stuff delivered to their garage and wouldn't mind ordering and storing, for a fee, another barrel for someone else to help cut the delivery costs, please let me know. Thanks. Gregory ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Illustration of a face on a globe. He is choking with heat and smoke surrounding it. Under that a text message saying: Live Longer... Use Biofuels Bill Lemorande Milwaukee,WI - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion This Hakan guy is full of good ideas ! Luc - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion This is a really good bumper sticker! Peggy Or make it short and sweet for short bumpers :) Drive better and longer. Use biofuels. Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Brazilian Ethanol Film
I am a film maker and am thinking of going to Brazil to do a documentary on the origins and uses of alcohol (ethanol) as a fuel in Brazil. If any of you has any idea on how to finance this, I would sure appreciate them. My best guess is about $30,000. I have already talked to a couple of TV stations and they have interest in airing it ..but no interest in underwriting it. Bill Lemorande Milwaukee, WI PS I have won over 20 awards including a CLIO - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Brazilian ethanol factsl Luis, I am very interested in the report also and if you find it useful, I can publish it on our site for download by other interested parties. If you also could write a short commentary to it and if it is legal to offer the report to the public, I am very interested in offering it to a wider public also. As everybody are aware of, I find the Brazilian activities in the biofuel field very important and also the knowledge base that is built during the last 30+ years. Giving it as much publicity as possible and to learn from them, must be of global interest. It is also an important recognition of the experiences and support for all parties involved. I belive that a marketing of Brazilian technology is not only good for Brazil, but also for the global community and everybody that supports the wider use of biofuels. The value of Brazil's experiences and knowledge cannot be over rated and if I can be of help, it would make me happy. Hakan At 08:00 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Hi I would request you to please mail me reuters report on present and future of Brazilian Ethanol Industry as well as Emberaers release on their Ethanol powered Aircraft. Regards, sumer c jain CONTACTOS MUNDIALES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear William and all. The Brazilian ethanol output in 2003 was 14,000,000,000 liters = 3,703,000,000 US gallons US production for the same year was 12,000,000,000 3,174,000,000 Other notes on Ethanol in Brazil: * There are over 4 million cars that use 100% ethanol in their engines * Ethanol-gasoline blends start at around 25% * EMBRAER, the largest domestic airplanes manufacturer, will release in about four months their model Ipanema that will use ethanol aviation fuel, with the following consequences: 5% power increase, increased climb rate, speed and altitude, lower engine maintenance costs, lower emissions (of course), 66% lower fuel costs. (Source: EMBRAER Press Release) * In Brazil ethanol is produced from Blackstrap molasses as well as from sugar cane juice * The sugar cane productivity is 80 Metric Tons/Hectare/Year. This agricultural yield is equivalent to some 6,500 liters ethanol/Hectare/year. * The current area planted with cane for sugar and ethanol production is around 4.9 million Hectares. There is a recent report by Reuters on the present and future of the Brazilian ethanol industry, which I will be happy to mail upon request, as well as the EMBRAER release on their ethanol-powered Ipanema.aircraft. There is a lot to learn from the Brazilian huge ethanol experiment wich they started more than 30 yeasr ago!. May all of you have a very nice Sunday, Luis R. Calzadilla Contactos Mundiales [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: william lemorande To: Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion
Great idea William! Mine was similar, but with two globes. The unhealthy one (dismal, yellowish gray, hazy) to one side, and the healthy one (clear azure blue, white clouds, greens and browns of the continents, as viewed from space). Caption: Renewable Biofuels: We can make it! AntiFossil - Original Message - From: william lemorande [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion Another idea... Illustration of a face on a globe. He is choking with heat and smoke surrounding it. Under that a text message saying: Live Longer... Use Biofuels Bill Lemorande Milwaukee,WI - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion This Hakan guy is full of good ideas ! Luc - Original Message - From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:00 PM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel slogans and promotion This is a really good bumper sticker! Peggy Or make it short and sweet for short bumpers :) Drive better and longer. Use biofuels. Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Brazilian Ethanol Film
Here is Chico. Wellcome to Brasil.You can stay in my place and you can work with my daughter as she graduated as movie director and she is fluent in English. This cope with small expenses. Suggest you contact alcohol traders and fuel marketers in you rpart of the world. Very best Chico william lemorande wrote: I am a film maker and am thinking of going to Brazil to do a documentary on the origins and uses of alcohol (ethanol) as a fuel in Brazil. If any of you has any idea on how to finance this, I would sure appreciate them. My best guess is about $30,000. I have already talked to a couple of TV stations and they have interest in airing it ..but no interest in underwriting it. Bill Lemorande Milwaukee, WI PS I have won over 20 awards including a CLIO - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Brazilian ethanol factsl Luis, I am very interested in the report also and if you find it useful, I can publish it on our site for download by other interested parties. If you also could write a short commentary to it and if it is legal to offer the report to the public, I am very interested in offering it to a wider public also. As everybody are aware of, I find the Brazilian activities in the biofuel field very important and also the knowledge base that is built during the last 30+ years. Giving it as much publicity as possible and to learn from them, must be of global interest. It is also an important recognition of the experiences and support for all parties involved. I belive that a marketing of Brazilian technology is not only good for Brazil, but also for the global community and everybody that supports the wider use of biofuels. The value of Brazil's experiences and knowledge cannot be over rated and if I can be of help, it would make me happy. Hakan At 08:00 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Hi I would request you to please mail me reuters report on present and future of Brazilian Ethanol Industry as well as Emberaers release on their Ethanol powered Aircraft. Regards, sumer c jain CONTACTOS MUNDIALES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear William and all. The Brazilian ethanol output in 2003 was 14,000,000,000 liters = 3,703,000,000 US gallons US production for the same year was 12,000,000,000 3,174,000,000 Other notes on Ethanol in Brazil: * There are over 4 million cars that use 100% ethanol in their engines * Ethanol-gasoline blends start at around 25% * EMBRAER, the largest domestic airplanes manufacturer, will release in about four months their model Ipanema that will use ethanol aviation fuel, with the following consequences: 5% power increase, increased climb rate, speed and altitude, lower engine maintenance costs, lower emissions (of course), 66% lower fuel costs. (Source: EMBRAER Press Release) * In Brazil ethanol is produced from Blackstrap molasses as well as from sugar cane juice * The sugar cane productivity is 80 Metric Tons/Hectare/Year. This agricultural yield is equivalent to some 6,500 liters ethanol/Hectare/year. * The current area planted with cane for sugar and ethanol production is around 4.9 million Hectares. There is a recent report by Reuters on the present and future of the Brazilian ethanol industry, which I will be happy to mail upon request, as well as the EMBRAER release on their ethanol-powered Ipanema.aircraft. There is a lot to learn from the Brazilian huge ethanol experiment wich they started more than 30 yeasr ago!. May all of you have a very nice Sunday, Luis R. Calzadilla Contactos Mundiales [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: william lemorande To: Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] reply to Mike
Hi, I had something similar to that, still have the tank but, the under carriage was liberated for another project. My 500 G. tank was used as an overhead diesel storage tank on a farm and was bought at an auction, probably less than $100 in the entire project. Problem with those farm tanks, no baffling. I would assume a vehicle transporting 400-500 gallons of flammable liquid would have to placarded - Original Message - From: william lemorande [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] reply to Mike : Mike, : You might want to look at a surplus us army water buffalo. : The cost is $2,500. but it is stainless steel and probably can : be sold years later for the same amount of money. : Check it out here: : http://www.colemans.com/milveh.htm : Bill Lemorande : Milwaukee, WI : : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.801 / Virus Database: 544 - Release Date: 11/24/2004 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Brazilian Ethanol Film
Thanks ... That is a great offer. I will hopefully give you some details in a few months. It would be great to work with a pro like your daughter, particularly since she speaks portugese. ( I am assuming she does and also speaks english) And to stay with someone knowledgable like yourself would be invaluable. This is such terrific opportunity. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Bill - Original Message - From: FRANCISCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Brazilian Ethanol Film Bill Here is Chico. Wellcome to Brasil.You can stay in my place and you can work with my daughter as she graduated as movie director and she is fluent in English. This cope with small expenses. Suggest you contact alcohol traders and fuel marketers in you rpart of the world. Very best Chico william lemorande wrote: I am a film maker and am thinking of going to Brazil to do a documentary on the origins and uses of alcohol (ethanol) as a fuel in Brazil. If any of you has any idea on how to finance this, I would sure appreciate them. My best guess is about $30,000. I have already talked to a couple of TV stations and they have interest in airing it ..but no interest in underwriting it. Bill Lemorande Milwaukee, WI PS I have won over 20 awards including a CLIO - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Some Brazilian ethanol factsl Luis, I am very interested in the report also and if you find it useful, I can publish it on our site for download by other interested parties. If you also could write a short commentary to it and if it is legal to offer the report to the public, I am very interested in offering it to a wider public also. As everybody are aware of, I find the Brazilian activities in the biofuel field very important and also the knowledge base that is built during the last 30+ years. Giving it as much publicity as possible and to learn from them, must be of global interest. It is also an important recognition of the experiences and support for all parties involved. I belive that a marketing of Brazilian technology is not only good for Brazil, but also for the global community and everybody that supports the wider use of biofuels. The value of Brazil's experiences and knowledge cannot be over rated and if I can be of help, it would make me happy. Hakan At 08:00 AM 11/30/2004, you wrote: Hi I would request you to please mail me reuters report on present and future of Brazilian Ethanol Industry as well as Emberaers release on their Ethanol powered Aircraft. Regards, sumer c jain CONTACTOS MUNDIALES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear William and all. The Brazilian ethanol output in 2003 was 14,000,000,000 liters = 3,703,000,000 US gallons US production for the same year was 12,000,000,000 3,174,000,000 Other notes on Ethanol in Brazil: * There are over 4 million cars that use 100% ethanol in their engines * Ethanol-gasoline blends start at around 25% * EMBRAER, the largest domestic airplanes manufacturer, will release in about four months their model Ipanema that will use ethanol aviation fuel, with the following consequences: 5% power increase, increased climb rate, speed and altitude, lower engine maintenance costs, lower emissions (of course), 66% lower fuel costs. (Source: EMBRAER Press Release) * In Brazil ethanol is produced from Blackstrap molasses as well as from sugar cane juice * The sugar cane productivity is 80 Metric Tons/Hectare/Year. This agricultural yield is equivalent to some 6,500 liters ethanol/Hectare/year. * The current area planted with cane for sugar and ethanol production is around 4.9 million Hectares. There is a recent report by Reuters on the present and future of the Brazilian ethanol industry, which I will be happy to mail upon request, as well as the EMBRAER release on their ethanol-powered Ipanema.aircraft. There is a lot to learn from the Brazilian huge ethanol experiment wich they started more than 30 yeasr ago!. May all of you have a very nice Sunday, Luis R. Calzadilla Contactos Mundiales [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: william lemorande To: Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Forget the Tiger, put some Mushrooms in your Tank ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
