Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives

2005-02-03 Thread Jan Lieuwe Bolding
Try to find a Lubrizol dealer or contact biofuelsystems in Britain. JLB - Original Message - From: Nuno Alegria - MT Energia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:46 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives Hi Does anyone knows any additives for

RE: [Biofuel] Global poverty ,WSF and Brazil

2005-02-03 Thread Dave Shaw
Hello All, Yes, real globalisation. The mainstream (ie Northern) press, just as they're so inclined to assume that if trade is free it must be good (NOT!), so often labels people like us and the hugely diverse groups that oppose the WTC and so on as anti-globalisation. Yet I think all of

RE: [Biofuel] What the Rest of the World Watched on Inauguration Day

2005-02-03 Thread Chris Lloyd
Democracies throughout the world vary wildly with how each country defines it. You mean like here in the UK where a party that only got 35% of the votes cast gets given 65% of the seats in the parliament. That's British democracy in action. Chris. -- No virus found in this outgoing

RE: [Biofuel] US DOE and USDA offer $15 million for biomass research

2005-02-03 Thread Dave Shaw
Hello, That's quite a lot of money. It certainly could help many grassroots initiatives take off, but I don't think that is the intent. It is not so surprising to read that This year's focus is on development and demonstration projects that lead to greater commercialization. (From

[Biofuel] The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2004

2005-02-03 Thread Dave Shaw
Reading that the World Bank's name is attached to this, I can't say that I agree with the approach of this document. From the ELDIS AGRICULTURE AND DEVELOPMENT REPORTER, 14 December 2004, http://www.eldis.org/agriculture/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- THE STATE OF FOOD INSECURITY IN THE WORLD 2004

[Biofuel] Studies Say Organic Ag Could Reduce Poverty in Developing Countries

2005-02-03 Thread Dave Shaw
From the Weekly Harvest Newsletter, Sustainable Agriculture News Briefs - January 27, 2005, put out by ATTRA - National Sustainable Agriculture Information Service. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Studies Say Organic Ag Could Reduce Poverty in Developing Countries Organic food production could

[Biofuel] A library on biodiesel

2005-02-03 Thread TILAPIA
The government has been working for years to do worthwhile research and publications on biodiesel developments. In the past two years, the National Renewable Energy laboratory has published a series of valuable monographs on this topic. I recommend everyone interested in biodiesel developments

Re: [Biofuel] Pre transesterification with heterogen catalyst

2005-02-03 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Arie, He did not have any more FFA than standard oils after he esterfied the FFA into methyl esters. Strong cation ion exchange resins work well for esterifcation of FFA into methyl esters and you don't need to get rid of the excess acid. Each molecule of FFA released one molecule of water in

[Biofuel] intern looking for an internship

2005-02-03 Thread angie kubalek
HI everybody, So I was wondering if anybody can help pass along info on groups or individuals who would be willing to take on an intern interested in learning the good and greasies of biodiesel. I am a natural science major and would really like to study the chemistry of biodiesel, as well as

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-02-03 Thread Ecogenics3
hi, how much lye did you use? perhaps you didnt get a complete reaction.. Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Pre transesterification with heterogen catalyst

2005-02-03 Thread francisco j burgos
I happen to have access to fat/oil from a tannery fat trap, which of course contains certain amount of chrome salts... Would it be reasonable to think that during acid esterification the chrome would become water soluble and then can be eliminated futherly when the biodiesel obtained via

[Biofuel] FS Escort Diesel in SC

2005-02-03 Thread Chris
A gentleman has two 1984 diesel Ford Escorts for sale in South Carolina. He is asking $700 each in an ad in the Carolina Trader out of Columbia. Does anyone know anything about this engine? This list is a highlight of my day. Thanks Chris K.

[Biofuel] how to clean equpiment

2005-02-03 Thread anibal
one more question? what do yoiu clean your equpiment with? pippets,methoxide mixing tank etc, reaction tank , etc... is it ok just to leave tthe methoxide residues on the methoxide mixing container? i know we have to clean the reaction vessel thouroughly but..i doubt my tools are clean... what

Re: [Biofuel] Ford to test EPA's Clean Diesel Combustion technology

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
DieselNet UPDATE January 2005 http://www.dieselnet.com/ Ford to test EPA's Clean Diesel Combustion technology Don't the 2.5 liter turbo diesels Ford is putting in those really cool, Thai built, 4 door Rangers you have in Japan and other places overseas already meet the more rigorous Euro

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
I'm gonna ask a stupid question, cuz I really don't know the answer -- why do the traditional conservative fundamentalists in the US LOVE the US, while the traditional conservative fundamentalists in the Arab world (mostly Sunni's, correct me if I'm wrong) tend more toward DESPISING the US?

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood

2005-02-03 Thread MH
Turning New York's Wood into the Energy of the Future Jan 13, 2005 http://www.esf.edu/newspubs/news/2005/01.13.biorefinery.htm State University of New York college of Environmental Science and Forestry SUNY-ESF's Biorefinery Process We know our sources of fossil fuel aren't going to

Re: [Biofuel] Yokayo Biofuels?

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
Wanna learn about your new home ? http://www.cityofukiah.com/ Bet your learn more from living there though. Ukiah is a nice little town among many in Northern California. It should be a friendly place for biodiesel from what I remember. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Doug Younker
Attorneys for corporations routinely use the courts in an attempt to get another to pay their obligations, in doing so they can be as fraudulent as those in the persons in the examples you cited. The chances are very slim that tort reform that could curtail you and I will not apply to the

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Doug Younker
Keith, After I read the details of that case, the case actually illustrates why we should not embrace tort reform. There was no reasonable expectation the coffee would have causes burns to the degree that it did. The industry knew that where serving coffee at temperature that could injure

Re: [Biofuel] wvo won't react

2005-02-03 Thread fox mulder
--- JD2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just read this more thoroughly. I think if you've got a particuarly sticky batch of wvo you might try passing a current through it. This would alter the orp of any mollecules in there and therby the PH of the whole thing. As a

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread bob allen
respectful than a lot of the theists out there. I bet that a keyword search on god with a capital G comes up a whole lot more than voodoo. If a person wants to believe in the supernatural that is his or her business. but how does that help us in our discussions? The problem with the

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Ken and Robert ; They don't despise us as human beings. They despise what we do. Not an expert by any means, and valid points about the actions of the US government, but I think they hate the entirety of the western culture. Sex before marriage, divorce, adultery, navel rings (and more

re: [Biofuel] World Energy and Dow Chemical Sign Biodiesel Production

2005-02-03 Thread DHAJOGLO
Ug...From a NBB email update today: (It is my understanding, but I may be mistaken, that World Energy, who evidently controls around 75% of the US biodiesel market, is owned by Gulf Oil) Its my opinion that once biofuels start to replace petrol fuels the oil companies will rush to secure a

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread bob allen
frivolous. I doubt the people of Libby Montana think its frivolous. http://www.scn.org/~bh162/asbestos_libby.html Doug Younker wrote: Attorneys for corporations routinely use the courts in an attempt to get another to pay their obligations, in doing so they can be as fraudulent as those in

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
And Howdy to you too Luc, Actually I feel my position is much more respectful than a lot of the theists out there. You aren't outright rude, but respectful is not a word I would use to characterize your posts. If a person wants to believe in the supernatural that is his or her

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
Hi Ken and Robert ; Not an expert by any means, and valid points about the actions of the US government, but I think they hate the entirety of the western culture. Sex before marriage, divorce, adultery, navel rings (and more extreme forms of body piercing), tatoos, Madonna, Brittany, gay

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Robert ; You know this is such a fascinating thread for me, and please believe me there is no offence intended for anyone, because I ponder this subject and consider the possiblity that I could be wrong or mis-informed. Indeed! The difference between the moderate western perspective on

RE: [Biofuel] What the Rest of the World Watched on Inauguration Day

2005-02-03 Thread Michael Redler
Hey Chris, I hear you loud and clear. If there weren't such a large body of water between us, we could go to each others protests. :-) Mike Chris Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Democracies throughout the world vary wildly with how each country defines it. You mean like here in the UK

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Ken Provost wrote: I'm gonna ask a stupid question, cuz I really don't know the answer -- why do the traditional conservative fundamentalists in the US LOVE the US, while the traditional conservative fundamentalists in the Arab world (mostly Sunni's, correct me if I'm wrong) tend more toward

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
on 2/2/05 7:33 AM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the attitide of the traditional conservative fundamentalists in the US to the Arab world? Judging from the Crusades (a word you still hear occasionally) Yes! And in rather telling circumstances, sometimes. I'd say

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Bob, I think that Bush is more than dumb, for more than 30 years the asbestos have been forbidden in several European countries. It is around 40 years ago that it was proven links between asbestos and lung cancer. It is hard to find a more clear cut case and it only proves the ignorance and

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Joe . Guthrie
Hi To All, I guess I sort of misread this thread and got excited about the idea that a corporation could face the death penelty, and not just the officers. When you think about it, if a corporation has the rights of a person such as the protections offered by the bill of rights, then why

Re: [Biofuel] What the Rest of the World Watched on Inauguration Day

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hakan, Thank you for spending the time to point toward better examples of democracies than the US. As a dual citizen, I think that Switzerland is an especially good choice. Are you really? That must make for some interesting comparisons. I posted this before, but I think I'll post it

Re: [Biofuel] The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2004

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Reading that the World Bank's name is attached to this, I can't say that I agree with the approach of this document. I think you can't paint it with such a broad brush. An odious organisation indeed, along with the IMF and the WTO et al, but not all the World Bank does is bad, and not

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
I guess you win the prize! Only there isn't a prize, sorry about that. :-( Keith, After I read the details of that case, the case actually illustrates why we should not embrace tort reform. There was no reasonable expectation the coffee would have causes burns to the degree that it did.

re: [Biofuel] World Energy and Dow Chemical Sign Biodiesel Production

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
(It is my understanding, but I may be mistaken, that World Energy, who evidently controls around 75% of the US biodiesel market, is owned by Gulf Oil) Its my opinion that once biofuels start to replace petrol fuels the oil companies will rush to secure a monopoly. News like this

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
perspective? Or at least an animist or two? For one thing: The term Voodoo (Vodun in Benin; also Vodou or other phonetically equivalent spellings in Haiti; Vudu in the Dominican Republic) is applied to the branches of a West African ancestor-based religious tradition with primary roots among

Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken and Robert ; Not an expert by any means, and valid points about the actions of the US government, but I think they hate the entirety of the western culture. Sex before marriage, divorce, adultery, navel rings (and more extreme forms of body piercing), tatoos, Madonna, Brittany,

Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States of America Etc ? When I arrived here I was under the auspice that I was

[Biofuel] Re: [altfuelfurnace] Babbington burner interest?

2005-02-03 Thread TILAPIA
How to Convert a Beckett Burner to a Babington Burner: Any kind of standard #2 heating oil burner can be converted to a babington with some success and minimal cost. I've done this to 3 burners so far. I don't own a welder, so I've done this without. Here are the issues: 1. The pressurized

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread John Guttridge
Robert Luis Rabello wrote: Who is trying to proselytize you, sir? I've not read a single message in this forum urging you to repent of your sins, or repudiate your atheism. Perhaps that's what you believe we're trying to do; further illustrating my point that reality absolutely

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread John Guttridge
the meaning of punitive damages. the idea is to punish the corporation in the only language it understands (money) so the value of the award was more based on the value of mcdonalds than it was about the value of the victims injury. once you realize that it makes a whole lot more sense.

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hmm... Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! You said it. I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States of America Etc ? Huh? What are you

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi To All, I guess I sort of misread this thread and got excited about the idea that a corporation could face the death penelty, and not just the officers. When you think about it, if a corporation has the rights of a person such as the protections offered by the bill of rights, then why

Re: [Biofuel] Is It Time For A Corporate Death Penalty Act?

2005-02-03 Thread DHAJOGLO
financial compensation for all of her pain and suffering) was $100,000 exactly how likely is that to make mcdonalds change their practices such that more don't suffer? if that was your local coffee joint it would probably put them out of business but mcdonalds has 4.4 billion in sales. Plus,

[Biofuel] Wired article from the NBB conference

2005-02-03 Thread Rachel Burton
infatuation with biodiesel, the replacement for petroleum diesel that can be made from vegetable and animal oils and fats. The farmers, soybean growers from Midwestern states, are enlisting the help of environmentalists and celebrities, to give them the hip, eco-friendly image they need

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Kim, This list has members from over 100 countries, as Keith often like to point out. It probably also have members from at least 3 basic religions and numerous variations of them. The only ones who repeatedly involve as superior credentials their country and Christianity as some superior

[Biofuel] Global Issues That Affect Everyone

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Best wishes Keith --- http://www.globalissues.org/ Global Issues That Affect Everyone If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is

re: [Biofuel] World Energy and Dow Chemical Sign Biodiesel Production

2005-02-03 Thread DHAJOGLO
Keith, People have been saying that here for five years, and elsewhere no doubt much longer. I'm not being sceptical, I agree with you. That they're so slow off the mark and it's taking them so long would rather tend to reinforce my scepticism of their much-vaunted and largely mythical

Re: [Biofuel] What the Rest of the World Watched on Inauguration Day

2005-02-03 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Kieth, There's a lot of stuff you threw out there. To address it all would take a heck of a lot of time -- suffice to say that I agree with most of it. Switzerland: If part of it's government was based on the US constitution, you wouldn't know it. It gained it's Independence over 700

[Biofuel] micro-scale -was: World Energy and Dow Chemical

2005-02-03 Thread R Del Bueno
Lets hope that they are too blinded by their outlook on petroleum long enough for the co-ops and local interests to take hold. I think micro-scale will always be workable, and possibly have economic advantages. In the US, there are some regulatory expenses that currently hinder small

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives

2005-02-03 Thread Legal Eagle
From my understanding, Lubrizol works very well for the purpose it is intended for and that is B20 blend. It works primarily on the dino end, not the BD end. I am a bit scetchy about all the details and it could be a bit higher % on the BD side although I am certain that it is of littole

Re: [Biofuel] Wired article from the NBB conference

2005-02-03 Thread Legal Eagle
Case in point to my negative post about turning biodiesel into a commercial venture in the big business mindset. Along comes corporate and before you know it corporate is setting down rules and squeezing you and me out of the picture or making so difficult that it is prohibitive. Corporate

Re: [Biofuel] wvo won't react

2005-02-03 Thread JD2005
- Original Message - From: fox mulder Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:53 AM hi biodiesel is methyl or ethylesters (an organic molecule) isn't it that you are carrying out electrolysis for which you need an ionic electrolyte? fox Great question.I'm glad you asked me that.