Re: [Biofuel] freezer test

2005-03-09 Thread Jan Lieuwe Bolding
I have some similar experience with gelling at about 5 ¡C when I use used frying oil(corn). When I use used sunflower oil the results are much better. With kind regards, Jan Lieuwe Bolding - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday,

Re: [Biofuel] factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-09 Thread 1michaelf
Why not compost and use methane and fertilizer produced? http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Sure factory farms are different than large cities, but not when it comes to waste. If you think the waste from 125,000 animals is a problem, try dealing with

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Bennett
http://www.biofuelsystems.com/products.htm Biodiesel equipment, supplies additives Write to Paul O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] and tell him I said so. I haven't tried their anti-oxidant but we use their Wintron X30 and they're good people. He's in the UK and so are they, but they're happy

RE: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports

2005-03-09 Thread 1michaelf
Many are sheep, the question is who are going be be the ones that lead them until they can lead themselves. :)) http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hello Keith, I hope this finds you and Midori doing well. snip Rely on the government to

[Biofuel] Re: A timely reminder from Ben Franklin

2005-03-09 Thread Kenneth Kron (CEO)
Bo, I wanted to say thanks for you thoughtful and well informed postings. I think it behooves all of us to realize when we're hearing each others ego and not each others spirit. I believe it happens to us all and of course we never sound to ourselves the way we sound to those we

[Biofuel] Re: Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread David Thornton
averaging 17.5. My mix varies, but I've noticed no difference in mpg compared to fossil D. Just wondering if anyone has any specs on mpg for diesel pickups when using biodiesel? Specifically the Cummins 5.7l Turbo diesels in the Dodge pickups. Does the mileage drastically increase over

RE: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice forBDmaking?]

2005-03-09 Thread eric drumm
Hello, If this is any help, on page five of this article there is a list of natural antioxidants, along with synthetics. The article also has some good definitions and explanations used in the oil/fat industry. http://www.darlingii.com/pdffiles/2002%20Rendered%20Fats%20in%20Animal%20Fee d.pdf

Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread ardis streeter
--- detached [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has any specs on mpg for diesel pickups when using biodiesel? Specifically the Cummins 5.7l Turbo diesels in the Dodge pickups. Does the mileage drastically increase over diesel? I found mpg for regular diesel, but not too

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel engines

2005-03-09 Thread Busyditch
Let me add my 2 cents. Ebay has had a few of the below mentioned engines for sale recently. Keep an eye open there. - Original Message - From: Anthony Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Diesel engines If you really

RE: [Biofuel] Diesel engines

2005-03-09 Thread malcolm maclure
Yep, just seen a Nissan engine box to fit a Range Rover go for £200 on Ebay. Not bad considering Land Rover 300TDi's can go for 2 or 3 times that. Malcolm Let me add my 2 cents. Ebay has had a few of the below mentioned engines for sale recently. Keep an eye open there. - Original

[Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way?

2005-03-09 Thread Joe . Guthrie
Hello to all: I'm wondering if anyone is using WVO and drying it before use. I filter it and it looks brite and clear but I worry that there may be water disolved in the oil. Is there a simple test for water content? Is there a simple method of removing moisture? I don't want to heat 50

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-09 Thread Ken Provost
on 3/8/05 5:30 AM, Kim Garth Travis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, we turn vegetarian in public. Our rule, if I don't know its name, I am not eating it. I dunno -- sounds a little hypocritical (tho in general I like your stuff. I'll think about this longer). Why eat your friends at

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
I think you're responding to the wrong message, it should have been this one from Kim, not my reply to Doug: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050307/006623.html [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms Aw, come on guys! Please don't try to turn me into a cardboard stereotypical

[Biofuel] Re: A timely reminder from Ben Franklin

2005-03-09 Thread Anti-Fossil
Kenneth, Please excuse the intrusion into your conversation. I found both the spirit of your post, as well as the content, timely and refreshing, and I wanted to say thanks. It reminded me of some rules I have that could use a little dusting off right about now. I'm not exactly sure when it

Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a 1995 3/4 ton Dodge with a Cummings diesel. It has 250,000 miles on it. I bought it used. I get 15-17 MPG out of it on regular diesel. I thought these engines got better mileage. What do you get? I have not tried bio-diesel yet. I will install a in-line fuel filter in the spring

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-09 Thread Erik Lane
I don't believe that with the high compressions required of a diesel engine it is possible to have a non-interference design. To get the high compression there is VERY little space at TDC. I don't think there is any way to design around that. If the valves were recessed into the head then there

Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread Busyditch
Go here for some stats http://www.greasel.com/News.html - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks... I have a 1995 3/4 ton Dodge with a Cummings diesel. It has 250,000

RE: [Biofuel] Re: Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Lloyd
Just wondering if anyone has any specs on mpg for diesel pickups when using biodiesel? Specifically the Cummins 5.7l Turbo diesels in the Dodge pickups. Does the mileage drastically increase over diesel? I found mpg for regular diesel, but not too much on biodiesel. I remember a UK TV program

[Biofuel] Mysterious death of Rudolph Diesel

2005-03-09 Thread Busyditch
Uh Oh- Looks like Rudolf Diesel might have been murdered due to his wish to give Diesel engines to all of Europe, thus levelling the field of submarine technology. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel

[Biofuel] Diesel history

2005-03-09 Thread Busyditch
http://www.ybiofuels.org/bio_fuels/history_diesel.html ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net

RE: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports

2005-03-09 Thread John Wilson
Many are sheep, the question is who are going be be the ones that lead them until they can lead themselves. (Reply) Many are sheep, and Governments are wolves that feed on sheep! Goldens ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-09 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Actually, we are not hypocrites, but totally aware of what it takes to get factory meat to the table. People who name their animals generally treat their animals in a reasonable fashion. I am not going into details of how bad the factory process is this early in the morning, but there are

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel history

2005-03-09 Thread Hakan Falk
He got the chance to develop his high compression engine, with grants from the coal industry. They financed him for development of an engine that could utilize the large amount of coal dust that was gathering as waste around the mines. He failed, but could instead demonstrate a prototype that

[Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way

2005-03-09 Thread John Wilson
Hi, I haven't tried this yet so it is only theory. I bought an old cream seperator(Centrifuge) and I am going to filter the wvo first then run it through the seperator and hopefully seperate any water from the WVO. Also going to try and recover Methy that way. Did you see the news on CNN that

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Drying WVO - Is there a simple way?

2005-03-09 Thread R Del Bueno
I have found that gravity will take most of the free water out in time. Warming the oil to about 140degF speeds up the process. The use of a centrifuge speeds it up even further (but can be costly unless you stumble into a good deal on one). I know some folks are using some vacuum setups

[Biofuel] What is factory farming?

2005-03-09 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I have been thinking about the problems with factory farms vs sustainable farms. I appears, to me at least, that the debate has an erroneous assumption; that all large farms are factory and that most small farms are sustainable. This is totally false. I have seen some small 5 to 7 acre

[Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-09 Thread bioteo
I have an old petrol car (75 mercedes 230.4) converted to LPG recently. But In the last few months the price of LPG has started to rise. I am wondering if it is possible to use methane instead of LPG? I have a fridge compressor that I can compress the methane in to tanks, the could I just

Re: [Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-09 Thread desertstallion
Hi, I think it varies by feedstock, but my understanding is that there is slightly less energy per volume of veg oil/biodiesel. Therefore, when you switch to veg oil/biodiesel from regular diesel the mileage per gallon drops slightly...it doesn't improve. But, the fuel is better

Re: [Biofuel] Re: factory farms vs. big cities

2005-03-09 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Mike - I advocate a solutions approach discussed on this listserv. Farming In the San Joaquin Valley California there are counties that contain the largest concentration of dairy farms in the United States. Much research is being done to assist small family dairy farms, medium sized dairy

[Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread goldma
with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was wondering if it's possible to make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed??? thanx, kenn ___ Save rainforest for free with a Planet-Save.com e-mail account:

[Biofuel] Stainless Steel Tanks and Reactors Salvage

2005-03-09 Thread Kevin Shea
http://www.jlmercer.com/Reac_Pres.asp I found the above site while looking for tanks. I must openly confess..., the railroad car-size tanks may be too large for my under-the-porch biodiesel setup! Thought some folks may be interested? Thank you, Kevin Shea Beacon, New York USA

Re: [Biofuel] What is factory farming?

2005-03-09 Thread Phillip Wolfe
The San Joaquin Valley California lands and farms are facing the same issues - urban pressure. May we look at other countries for some examples of how family farms survived over many many generations? Perhaps others on this listserv can provide examples. For example, the California Yokut

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel

2005-03-09 Thread John Wilson
I don't believe that with the high compressions required of a diesel engine it is possible to have a non-interference design. To get the high compression there is VERY little space at TDC. I don't think there is any way to design around that. If the valves were recessed into the head then there

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed??? thanx, kenn See: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004092.html [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news Follow the links. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread goldma
with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was wondering if it's possible to make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed??? thanx, kenn See: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004092.html [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news thanx keith - looks like

[Biofuel] Terminator Trees

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 02/03/05 Terminator Trees Sterile GM trees cannot contain transgenes, instead, they raise special safety concerns for health and biodiversity mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Prof. Joe Cummins and mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dr.

[Biofuel] Multiple Uses of Forests

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 03/03/05 Multiple Uses of Forests A global trend away from monoculture tree plantations towards multiple uses of native forests is good for conserving forest ecosystems, but progress is hampered by a dominant

[Biofuel] Glyphosate Toxic Roundup Worse

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 07/03/05 Glyphosate Toxic Roundup Worse mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dr. Mae-Wan Ho and mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Prof. Joe Cummins call for urgent regulatory review of the most widely used herbicide in the light of new

[Biofuel] A Clear Skies Smokescreen

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
A Clear Skies Smokescreen Frank O'Donnell March 07, 2005 From the outset, the real goal of the Clear Skies Act has been to cut breaks for the biggest polluters-to postpone cleanup deadlines into the mid- 2020s, to eliminate pesky provisions of current law and to take away states' rights

[Biofuel] Breathtaking: New Air Pollution Studies

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Breathtaking: New Air Pollution Studies March 04, 2005 - By Green Guide Institute NEW YORK, NY-You are what you eat, so they say. According to a number of new studies, however, you are also what you breathe-and even what your mother breathed. Recent research shows that air pollution of

[Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was wondering if it's possible to make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed??? thanx, kenn See: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004092.html [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news thanx keith - looks

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-09 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver : I don't believe that with the high compressions required of a diesel : engine it is possible to have a

Re: [Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-09 Thread Doug Younker
I think there has to be more than meets the eye on such a conversion. Propane is stored a liquid and I assume methane is as well. Can the propane tanks withstand the pressure required to liquefy methane? Propane contains more energy than methane, will you realize a net savings? In any event I

Re: [Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-09 Thread Chris Bennett
I think there has to be more than meets the eye on such a conversion. Propane is stored a liquid and I assume methane is as well. Can the propane tanks withstand the pressure required to liquefy methane? Propane contains more energy than methane, will you realize a net savings? In any event

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread goldma
thanx again keith - i guess i didn't click on all the links... by the way, a few of the links don't work (one of the gm links for sure...). i would love to have a diesel hybrid car - hopefully in a few years in this country, eh? kenn Hello Kenn with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was

[Biofuel] Neophyte seeks advice on runing 1983 Mercedes 300SD on BD

2005-03-09 Thread Thomas Giguiere
chemistry. I would like to run my 1983 Mercedes 300SD on biodiesel. Can anyone recomend a good formulation to use? Should I make any modifications to the vehicle before I attempt to change over to BD? Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Thomas Gigiuiere Folsom, CA

[Biofuel] Neophyte seeks advice on runing 1983 Mercedes 300SD on BD

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello. I am an aspiring biodieseler with an elementary background in chemistry. :-) Some/many of us don't have any chemistry at all. I would like to run my 1983 Mercedes 300SD on biodiesel. Can anyone recomend a good formulation to use? If you're buying it, B100. If you're planning to

RE: [Biofuel] Methane to LPG car

2005-03-09 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
Nope To liquefy methane you need to take below -200K Degrees. Its called LNG. Methane is Natural Gas. You need to compress it to around 3000Psi To get effective storage in a car/truck/bus. Depended on driving distance. MT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread Keith Addison
a few of the links don't work (one of the gm links for sure...). Yes, some of the PNGV links don't work now, though I've replaced them several times. Not something they're mad keen to shout about, I suppose - understandably, if you read what Doyle has to say about it. Shameful. i would

Re: [Biofuel] What is factory farming?

2005-03-09 Thread Doug Younker
Fair? Maybe, Phillip, but is it practical and applicable? Not to overwhelm the natural resources over the generations, something had to keep the human population in check. What where those events and are they something modern day man would accept? Sounding like a stuck record, there is a

[Biofuel] Global Warming Everybody's a Critic

2005-03-09 Thread MH
Everybody's a Critic New voices join chorus pushing Bush to act on climate change http://www.grist.org/news/daily/2005/03/07/2/ At this point it's getting hard to keep track, but a couple more notable folks have joined the ranks of those calling on the Bush administration, either

[Biofuel] Re: JD2005

2005-03-09 Thread Anti-Fossil
JD2005 wrote: snip I've also been thinking that there are too many people.If we hadn't got into burning fossil fuels but used renewable oils, wind and sun etc. instead, there would not be so many people would there? Howdy JD, One of us has got their spurs on just a little to tight. Now

Re: [Biofuel] possible to have a diesel hybrid?

2005-03-09 Thread JD2005
Hi; Ive been wondering out in the wilderness of the internet looking into boidiesel and SVO and the like.Alot of the most recent questions may be answered by a vistit to: http://www.biofuels.ca Particuarluy those about drying and cleaning waste vegetable oil plus the suitability of