Bob
Thanks
I'm CHILLED now
Thanks for all your help
My BEST to you
Royron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROY, Take a chill. You have a small amount of soda ash in the bottom of the tank. Leave it there. Pore off the M/H and leave it in the bottom.There is no way of getting around a little [junk] in the
Keith
FANTASTIC JOB
Thank you
Roy
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi allCheck out the new list archives:Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/All Biofuel list messages are there from when the
Hello Ron
ROY, Take a chill. You have a small amount of soda ash in the bottom
of the tank. Leave it there. Pore off the M/H and leave it in the
bottom.
There is no way of getting around a little [junk] in the stuff we
get unless you pay BIG bucks for reagent grade or better.
Not big bucks,
Mike,
I agree that anyone should be allowed to PEACEFULLY protest, but I
find it disturbing that individuals would protest military recruiters
on college campuses(sp). I am retired military and feel a strong bond
with our military.
Feel free to protest the administrations positions/policies,
ROY Washbish wrote:
Bob
So what I get out of what you told me is I have soda ash in my lye
caused by the absorption of carbon dioxide from room air and my breath.
This action takes place after the methanol and the lye are combined ?
OR ... is the absorption of CO2 taking place when
Keith
FANTASTIC JOB
Thank you
Roy
Thankyou Roy, you're most welcome.
I must say I agree, it's a real pleasure to use. I can't claim any
credit for it. Of course we arranged it, but it was Jeff Breidenbach
at The Mail Archive who did the work, that kind of computer crunching
is way beyond
See also:
http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0601-25.htm
Amnesty International
June 1, 2005
Amnesty International's Response to Rumsfeld
Statement of Dr. William F. Schulz, Executive Director, Amnesty
International USA
http://thinkprogress.org/index.php?p=979
The Bush Administration Was For
"The reason N Korea is starving its people and almost killing itself
to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush administration had
developed a policy along the lines you suggest."
Can anyone point to a credible source that outlines the timeline for
the above policies of N Korea?
Hi Larry,
I'm sorry if I offended you. I have a lot of respect for our military. I'm careful not to forget that it is their duty as professional soldiers to performtasksgiven to them by their commander-in-chief with the utmost professionalism. I also understand the dilemma created when/if the
Larry,
Military recruitment/recruiters are as much a part of the problem as are
the policy makers.
All one has to do is look at the deceptive, predatory and intimidating
practices of recruitment to gain insight as to the manipulative
mentality that must be well guarded against in all
Soda ash is not considered a Hazardous Material in the US and small
amounts can be placed in the trash can for domestic pick-up. Localities
may have special ordinances covering materials so check with your local
waste/ecology department. The amount you are talking about should not
be an issue in
Anybody know the PH of MethalHydroxside? [SP?
And is there a list of places to get [new] oil like the list of where
to get Methanol?
I am in S, Colorado and I am looking for 5000 gal a year for me and a
million gal a year for a client I am trying to sell on bio juice.
Ron
Hello Mike
The reason N Korea is starving it's people and almost killing
itself to get nuclear weapons is precisely because the Bush
administration had developed a policy along the lines you suggest.
Can anyone point to a credible source that outlines the timeline for
the above policies of
Hello Keith,
I am continually amazed, though I know I should be used to this by
now, at your ability to post articles that are of such relevance
they should be considered ammunition, not reading or research
material. A simple thanks to you.
Anti-fossil
LOL Mike!
I guess you're right
Hello
Mike,
Not that I support what the Bush administration is
doing or done but if your comment below is true then why was N Korea doing
exactly the same things during the Clinton Administration? Just curious. If
memory serves me correctly the Clinton administration signed an agreement
Thanks Kieth,
White House contradictions really come through in this.
So, we have a number of top levelpeople who reacted strongly within about48 hours:
Scott McClellan
Richard Myers Dick Cheney
"W"
"Rummey"
But Cheney still says: "I frankly just don't take them seriously." Well, I guess
Todd,
could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ?
Greg H.
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 09:31
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Hello Larry, Todd and All,
I must say that I agree with Todd on the way recruitment is done. And that I
also believe that they are fair game to protest as
well. I served six years in the military and I am proud of my service and of
the men and women with whom I served. But not one of us
had
Hello Greg,
I know you addressed this to Todd but I thought I would give you a first hand
account. As mentioned before I was in the military.
Deceptive - On the day I was out processed I discovered that all those young
men and women who had served less than three years,
would have to serve a
Mike,
I understand your position but I must still disagree with the method
being employed to reach the goal.
Todd,
I must agressively disagree with your perception. As someone who
has been there gone through the enlistment process and served for 21
years. I know what goes on inside.
I
Is anyone out there using anti-fungal additives (ie: Kill-um) to
prevent rancid oil for settling and storing WVO?
Also, my friend has been using 'Boiler fuel additive' that he gets for
free in his SVO converted mercedes... thinks it's useful, says he
notices it running better, but I was
I too am interested in hearing about it. And I would like to here what
the recruiters did to you that was so bad.
Greg Harbican wrote:
Todd,
could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ?
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Aguilar. Exit 34 on I25. There is a rail head right here where tank cars
can be unloaded.
Greg Harbican wrote:
What part of CO?
I'm in Falcon.
Greg
- Original Message -
From: ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 08:46
Subject:
Greg,
could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating?
Are you seeking dictionary definitions or a contextual one relative to
recruiting tactics?
You've never been present on a college campus with a ROTC contingent or
had a family member who once aspired to be a Marine
Larry,
I must agressively disagree with your perception. As someone who
has been there gone through the enlistment process and served for 21
years. I know what goes on inside.
That's a ratio of understanding approaching what, Larry? 1 to
???,???,. One good experience does not an all
GO LARRY!
Larry Foran wrote:
Mike,
I understand your position but I must still disagree with the method
being employed to reach the goal.
Todd,
I must agressively disagree with your perception. As someone who
has been there gone through the enlistment process and served for 21
years.
What in the world is in Boiler fuel additive?
Mel Purdy wrote:
Is anyone out there using anti-fungal additives (ie: Kill-um) to
prevent rancid oil for settling and storing WVO?
Also, my friend has been using 'Boiler fuel additive' that he gets for
free in his SVO converted mercedes... thinks
Ron,
Why would you find it necessary to try and delve into personal
exeriences when the public record and the dis-service to America is
blatantly and patently apparent?
This isn't about me anymore than it would be about you or any single
person. It's about propriety and impropriety. Those
Tim, Greg, Todd, et al.
I remember the day I enlisted and the process, guess it just pays to
ask questions. I knew about the reserve requirement if I did not
complete 6 years on active duty. (I enlisted for 4 years active, two
reserve). I also knew what the guys who enlisted for three years
Ron,
What do you mean with
MethalHydroxside ???
The second part must sure be Hydroxide i guess;
So, maybe did you meant methoxide ?
If you gonna experiment with dangerous and/or poisonous chemicals,
it can do no harm to know a little basic chemistry;
and inform yourself of riscs dangers,
"To enter military service and then say, I dont want to go there! orI don't want to do that! is simply childish selfcenterdness (sp)."
Well Larry, if that were true, we would have an increasing number of "self centered objectors" instead of conscientious objectors. Most people who join the
Well, well...
I'm aware this will probably chuck the cat in with the pigeons but
I'm undeterred. It's not directed at anyone in particular.
This discussion could only happen in America, while the rest of us
(that is, most of us) look on bemused. An American list member who
demands respect
Michael Redler wrote:
Well Larry, if that were true, we would have an increasing number of
self centered objectors instead of conscientious objectors. Most
people who join the military, do so with a belief (faith) that their
commander-in-chief will make the right decisions. When they don't,
Keith,
I knew, from previous veiwing on this list, that I would definetly
be in the minority. However, discussion and sharing opinions is the
best part of living in any democracy. How else would we ever get new
ideas, solutions.
I guess it is just the Red State in me, but I am proud of the
Robert,
"...he or she becomes the property of the military and the commanders will do with every soldier whatever they deem necessary. "
Point taken. But I think it's a bit oversimplified.
Do you mean to say that you (as property of the US armed services) would do"WHATEVER" your superior deemed
Michael Redler wrote:
Robert,
...he or she becomes the property of the military and the
commanders will do with every soldier whatever they deem necessary.
Point taken. But I think it's a bit oversimplified.
Is it really? Can an army function without discipline? When the
lieutenant
Robert,
After giving your position some thought, I had a scary vision. An army, comprised of men and women who are willing to suppress their conscience and serve blindly, following the orders of whatever government is in power, irrespective it's motivation --effectively becominga political
Robert,
This IMHO, this is another simplification.
Aside from refusing to obey an illegal order, can you think of any exceptions?What's illegal?
Mike
robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Redler wrote: Robert, "...he or she becomes the property of the military and the commanders
"Hey,
you too can join the Army, and become a musician...", and other lies that
recruitement officers are resorting to in order to fill the
quotas..
It is
that kind of behavior that is reprehemsible.
Once
you sign up, you're done for I agree, but the blatant sexing up and
lies??
How
easy
Hello Larry
Keith,
I knew, from previous veiwing on this list, that I would definetly
be in the minority.
We are all in the minority, we are all in the majority too.
However, discussion and sharing opinions is the
best part of living in any democracy.
Yes... it's the essence of what
'Twas not always thus. From an American icon:
... A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that
you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates,
powder-monkeys, and all, marching in admirable order over hill and
dale to the wars, against their wills,
Michael Redler wrote:
Robert,
After giving your position some thought, I had a scary vision. An army,
comprised of men and women who are willing to suppress their conscience
and serve blindly, following the orders of whatever government is in
power, irrespective it's motivation --
Michael Redler wrote:
Robert,
This IMHO, this is another simplification.
Sigh. . . Please answer the question!
What's illegal?
Any action that contravenes United States and International law.
These include treason, murder, torture, rape, slave labor and a host
of other
Well done Kieth.
I especially liked the Thoreau from your the last post.
I would only like to add that IMO, civil discourse is something that needs to be practiced. I find myself looking backto find the flavor of our discussions bothbitter and sweet. I would be troubled if they weren't.My
Sorry Robert. I'm still not with you on this.
Holding prisonerswithout legal representation is illegal.
State sponsored tortureis illegal.
State sponsored assassination is illegal.
Invading a country without provocation or proof of an impending (imminent) attack is illegal.
...and we have loyal
Hi all,
I can elaborate on my personal experience...I was approached,
aggressively, by 3 of the 4 large branches. After having taken the
ASFAB exam and some advanced exams, I eventually decided that the USAF
was the branch for me because of a particular opening that was
available.
"Every enlistee has a choice of whether or not to join. Those who do should be under no illusion that their service will involve brutal deeds inflicted upon other human beings."
Absolutely! It's the illusion with which activists havea problem. So, they go where the recruiters are -- to make sure
Greetings,
This is the kind of story I hear all the time from my friends kids. It is
a shame because many of them turn rather bitter towards their country. The
worst nightmare a person in our town suffered, was that their son broke his
neck in basic. He is not eligible for vet benefits
Greetings,
While the Disney company has never been lily white in their treatment of
animals, [do you remember the lemmings committing suicide?], this is beyond
the point that I ever thought they would go.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
The Mouse Who Kills Sharks ...
Ed. Note: From time to time, we
Michael Redler wrote:
Sorry Robert. I'm still not with you on this.
Holding prisoners without legal representation is illegal.
State sponsored torture is illegal.
State sponsored assassination is illegal.
Invading a country without provocation or proof of an impending
(imminent) attack is
Hallo Larry,
Friday, 03 June, 2005, 09:00:10, you wrote:
...snip...
LF Feel free to protest the administrations positions/policies, but
LF protesting military recruitment is dishonoring those who place their
LF lives on the line in defence of the freedoms we enjoy each day.
LF Military
Salute Keith.. :-)
Here you go. Was walking through the parking lot of a local grocery last
week when the woman walking in front of me threw her half-finished
cigarette on the asphalt. I stopped, mentally shook my head, then picked
up the still lit cigarette, trucked up behind her and
OK I understand what you mean. I think there is A LOT to cover here. It's Ironic how we talk about moral dilemmasas I have been so engaged in this thread that I respondedto you on company time (which I made up tonight).
One of the things you mention that isnot so concrete to me is:
"Individual
Hi Todd,
I was almost the one who flew into a rage a couple of years ago while watching someone empty the ash tray from their car onto the side of the road.
We're an equal opportunity "antagonist."
Yes!However, I don't consider myself as polished as you. I'm hoping that bystudying your posts,
Michael,
I don't consider myself as polished as you.
I'm hoping that by studying your posts, I can improve on that.
Nahhh, just rough hewn. Partly genetic. Partly a product of my (the
global) environment.
But I was serious about the equal opportunity antagonist. Not
intentional
Michael Redler wrote:
One of the things you mention that is not so concrete to me is:
Individual soldiers who sign up for the armed forces do so in full
agreement with the actions of the government sponsoring their service.
and If anyone disagrees because they believe what happens in the
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By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - The devastating impact of mankind on the planet is
dramatically illustrated in pictures published on Saturday showing
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Michael,
I like most of your points. If one signs or oaths a contract with the
MILITARY you are theirs to command. You are there to serve the people
but through the bureaucracy and hierarchy of the military.
One statement of yours bothered me though, ...had I been called,
military service
Keith,
I don't mean to sound trite, but what is the price or cost of freedom
(democracy)? 31, 33 or 51% of the worlds military budget isn't
pertinent.
Diesel Bill
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 3, 2005 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New
hello, tim.
tim wrote:
then why was N Korea doing exactly the same things
during the Clinton Administration?
someone pelase corect me if i've got this wrong, but my understanding has
been that the agreement(s) drafted under the clinton administration were
specifically about plutonuim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael,
I like most of your points. If one signs or oaths a contract with the
MILITARY you are theirs to command. You are there to serve the people
but through the bureaucracy and hierarchy of the military.
I spoke with a friend this evening who is a Navy
So what you are saying is, you have NO first hand experience. That you
are content to spread second hand info spewed out by a blatantly
biased anti military press. And bases on NO first hand info you are
content to accept all the flotsam they give you and pass it along as if
it were from the
I can see this is going no where so I will leave it with one final bit
of food for thought
. If it were not for the US defense budget and over a million American
lives, there would only be 2 languages spoken it all of Europe, German
and Russian. And all of Asia would be speaking Japanese. Oh
Hello Bill
Keith,
I don't mean to sound trite, but what is the price or cost of freedom
(democracy)? 31, 33 or 51% of the worlds military budget isn't
pertinent.
Diesel Bill
You'll have to define freedom (democracy) before I can answer that.
But everybody knows what it means? Maybe so, but
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