Re: [Biofuel] two questions on biodiesel storage

2005-07-11 Thread DB
My experience with BD after the water wash is that it will always be murky. I let mine just sit there in the wash vessel for a minimum of one week, sometimes two weeks depending one ambient temperatue (and other factors that I don't even know about.) After this settling period the BD will be cl

Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Gustl, I have seen the same thing happen in my hometown of Bethlehem, PA. The big steel company (Bethlehem Steel) closed down in the 90's after being in operation for almost 100 years. Part of the blame rested with the greedy corporate management, and part with the greedy union leadership (I

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
They'll do in-home service but it costs a fortune ;-) r wrote: Some time ago, I contacted the Human Milk Banking Association of North America (www.hmbana.org) without getting a response about getting milk for consumption. The web site mentions that human milk is to be used for therapeutic an

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
My point was more that it's not rocket science to live as a Vegan. I did it for about a year and a half- nothing bad happened and I made no effort to combine anything. I was perfectly healthy, but I do remember being pretty hungry all the time. Now I'm mostly ovo (not much lacto - I'm allergi

[Biofuel] Direct Democracy League

2005-07-11 Thread Doug Younker
Prior to yesterday I hadn't heard of the Direct Democracy League, but I found this http://www.ddleague-usa.net/ . They have a lot of material to digest and to be able to do so one had better had retained their history lessons or accept the DDL's accounting of history. With my brief look I notic

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 7/11/05 11:49:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << We could actually take the discussion further to stipulate _properly processed_ whole grains. Corn meal should be processed with alkali (masa harina) as I recall to to make the thiamin more absorbable, as one example.

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 7/11/05 9:19:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Chris are you serious? I can think of plenty of federal protection for workers off the top of my head. a) minimum wage b) overtime rules (40 hr work week for hourly employees) c) OSHA d) EPA e) NLRB f) maternity/paternit

[Biofuel] Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 11/07/05 Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths Peter Bunyard disposes of the argument for nuclear power: it is highly uneconomical, and the saving on greenhouse gas emissions neglig

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all I think vegetarians have to ask the same question of vegetables I asked about meat: Which particular cow is that? How was it raised, what did it eat? Or chicken or pig or sheep. A single cabbage can contain more pesticide residues than an entire cow - there's stuff in it that shouldn'

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread bob allen
howdy chris, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not just grains, but *whole* grains. beans and *whole* grains. We could actually take the discussion further to stipulate _properly processed_ whole grains. Corn meal should be processed with alkali (masa harina) as I recall to to make the thiamin mo

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from animal waste

2005-07-11 Thread marilyn
The message I sent was truncated so it did not include the following contact info at the end: Ethanol Producer Magazine 308 2nd Ave. North Suite 304 Grand Forks, ND 58203 (701)746-8385 Fax:(701)746-5367 Voice Toll Free: 866-746-8385 Also, one of the authors of the article at the university in NC

Re: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
yo, i think you're over-reacting a bit. and you're dragging in something which is barely relevant. no one's talking about severe or extreme malnutrition. i wouldn't expect to ever meet someone here who suffered from K because there are very few people here who don't eat meat. there are a dec

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread James G. Branaum
Federal law DOES provide for job security in very specific circumstances. However, they are not general or all inclusive. I think Germany went down that path with disastrous results. Jobs seem to be for life, regardless of skill or effort not spent in employers behalf. I am pretty sure Japan was

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from animal waste

2005-07-11 Thread 6 Heins
I live in an area that has large numbers of dairy farms. Does anyone know If this is possible with dairy cattle waste? Thanks, Steve --- "Pannirselvam P.V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Helo > > Because pig waste has 80 porcent water , > biogasification will > be the correct choice

Re[4]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Earl, Sunday, 10 July, 2005, 21:41:03, you wrote: Kac> Which is why I didn't join the Libertarian Party, or any party Kac> for that matter. Everytime I look up a particular political Kac> party, I find something that I don't agree with. I think I will Kac> just stay an indepen

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread John Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: earl, i'm not familiar with any federal laws protecting workers, except for anti-discrimination laws. if you're referring to more than that, please enlighten me. Chris are you serious? I can think of plenty of federal protection for workers off the top of my head.

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
NLRB? OSHA? At least before the present administration. Also, most employment in the US is termed "at will" either side can fire the other. I agree it's far from perfect, and leads to abuses, but the opposite, making it impossible to fire workers, is worse. I worked some in Bamako, Mali, a

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Hogwash. How many people have you known who suffer from Kwashiorkor ? None, I'll warrant. How many do you know suffering from heart disease, diabetis or obesity? 60% of the population. The US suffers diseases of affluence, not maln

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Not to mention that most of the lucrative rebuilding work has gone to Halliburton or its affiliates - their *very* highly paid workers drive past idle Iraqis - most of whom need jobs. I think if some of the American largess trickled down that alone would improve our image. Meanwhile, in other

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again

2005-07-11 Thread r
Some time ago, I contacted the Human Milk Banking Association of North America (www.hmbana.org) without getting a response about getting milk for consumption. The web site mentions that human milk is to be used for therapeutic and nutritional purposes for babies ( no mention of adults) although

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
earl, i'm not familiar with any federal laws protecting workers, except for anti-discrimination laws. if you're referring to more than that, please enlighten me. as fro state laws, don't be fooled by what you found in PA. many states have very poor worker protections. for example, employers

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel and WVO in all liquid cooled Diesel engines?

2005-07-11 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Helow Jason Graves Becuase several information you get confused .The more sure what you want , here in this following list arquives you can find what you want. http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ As I undestand , first you need to work raw materil to get clear oi

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
hmm, don't be sure, todd. you're assuming that rushie's true beliefs aren't ten times more extreme than what he lets show in public. hitler was very selective and careful about the image he projected to the general public. and if by "rabid little zealot" you're referring to the extreme emoti

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from animal waste

2005-07-11 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Helo Because pig waste has 80 porcent water , biogasification will be the correct choice followed by termal cracking/gasification .Thus the energy input can be minized as rapid bioconversion is also the comercial process. Energy balance can make the etanol process less competitive

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] give up meat?

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
not just grains, but *whole* grains. beans and *whole* grains. and even then only certain combinations. not all beans will complete the amino acid set when combined with brown rice. of course, there are still more grains that those beans might be combined with, but i personally don't know of

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol from corn vs Biodiesel from soy,etc.

2005-07-11 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Helo Bob Biodiesel can be made an intergrated way to produce defated soyabens for beef meat substuite and the oil can be directly or via transesterication to produce Biodiesel.As peanut , soybeans as leguminas , they can surely improve the sutainable enegy and food production.Now days we

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again

2005-07-11 Thread RobertCVA
Regarding use of "human manure," it's my understanding that sewage sludge may be used in the US as a soil treatment for non-human-edible crops, and in fact that a good bit of it is recycled that way.  (See "Garbage Land -- On the Secret Trail of Trash, by Elizabeth Royte)   I, like a number

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings Taryn, welcome First let me say that I believe that violence is almost never justified and that terrorism has never(?) served the political purposes it was intended for. I believe that terrorism is a crime, not an act of war. A heinous premeditated crime, but different only in scale

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel and WVO in all liquid cooled Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Richard, Jason I believe you need to ask someone who knows more about biodiesel and the equipment you are powering with it. Of course, the "safe answer" given by anyone who doesn't know will be "no." Investigate their knowledge of biodiesel before asking that question. I think the real a

Re: [Biofuel] best of the best?

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Angel, welcome Last bit first... i have a question what is the best biodesiel vegtible with the least amount of maintence cost to produce? i think this should be posted if you dont think so unsubcribe me Whyever would we not think so? Of course it can be posted. But if you want to uns

Re: [Biofuel] meat grown in the labs....

2005-07-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Bede Thanks for posting this. "Worldwide reduction of meat production in the pursuit of the targets set in the Kyoto treaty seems to carry fewer political unknowns than cutting our consumption of fossil fuels," he said in a statement. I love it! LOL! I mean I hate it but it tickled me. W

[Biofuel] two questions on biodiesel storage

2005-07-11 Thread David Thornton
Greetings all, I had a 10 gallon batch of biodiesel stored in my wash tank, undecanted from the water, stored in such a way for two weeks (busy with finals, then took a brief holiday). I've separated the bd and since washed it twice more yet it's appearance is murky. My two questions are 1)Coul

Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel and WVO in all liquid cooled Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Richard. Good of you to bring up these thoughts. Diesel oil is a mixture of a number of hundreds different hydrocarbons, which together have the properties as stated in the standards. This means that the properties and the composition of diesel oil will differ depending upon which diesel stan

[Biofuel] best of the best?

2005-07-11 Thread ANGEL DAVILA
i have a question what is the best biodesiel vegtible with the least amount of maintence cost to produce? i think this should be posted if you dont think so unsubcribe me From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Biofuel Digest, Vol

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-11 Thread TarynToo
First let me say that I believe that violence is almost never justified and that terrorism has never(?) served the political purposes it was intended for. I believe that terrorism is a crime, not an act of war. A heinous premeditated crime, but different only in scale from e.g. armed robbery an

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh

2005-07-11 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh : : Doug, : : Amazing. : : Hitler would have been a guaranteed success as American talk show host. : : Hakan Admitting that