OFF LIST-Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-13 Thread Doug Younker
John, Where I was thinking as I was clicking on the send button that post had probably been better off sent to the bit bucket, I'm sure you where disappointed. I don't have a clue if this is going to be any better, but here goes. My original remarks where based on my observations of those

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Robert, Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] You live in a country where you have the ABILITY to earn your money, and you question the legitimacy of the government in taxing your income? You live

Re: [Biofuel] Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Worst terror attacks in history

2005-08-13 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Robert, Your closing statement is as profound as it is humbling. Changing the world begins with changing ourselves. Thank you, Earl Kinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps the best answer lies in addressing the root

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Doug Foskey
Robert, as a non-american, I totally agree with your sentiments. Government is for the people, by the peoplenow where have I heard that before?? I think the worst thing that has happened in the last few decades is the recognition of the corporation as a 'person' - which is why we cannot

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Hakan Falk
Earl, It would be interesting to know how many countries you lived, or worked, in and how many languages you can communicate in? Hakan At 06:45 13/08/2005, you wrote: Mike, Where do I start? First, I have a real problem with any government (U.S., state, local) taking my hard earned

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings skapegoat I could be wrong, but I wonder when Joshua last made biodiesel. Have a look at this: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Okay then, here's a question. Why don't you write a book? I mean you're a journalist,

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all, For those of you that needs it, the glycerol can also be converted via anaerobic digestor to methane for stoves and boilers. Not such a good idea for city folk but on the farm it should be fine. Tom Irwin A visitor to our website told us this: I work at a wastewater treatment plant

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Earl Mike, Where do I start? First, I have a real problem with any government (U.S., state, local) taking my hard earned money (in the form of taxes) and redistributing it to others. Now, there are legitimate things that each of these levels of government can spend taxpayer dollars

[Biofuel] Re: washing again

2005-08-13 Thread DCBooth
 - Original Message - From: DCBooth To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:39 AM Subject: Re: washing again I've done a few biodiesel test samples. after washing numerous times with clean water after the final

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, I definitely agree with this. Glycerine has lots of carbons for the anaerobes to eat. In wastewater terms its a high BOD (biochemical oxygen demand) source. In layman´s terms you can grow a few million bacteria with a drop or two. It would mean lots of methane and carbon dioxide

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi all, Don´t you all realize the definition of government? That´s where we put all the corruption in one place so we can keep an eye on it. It´s an animal that you watch carefully and shouldn´t feed very much in order to keep it´s natural search for more territory under control. Cute little

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi all, Well said, Keith. You might mention that most people in the U.S. don´t read on a regular basis. They get most of thier info from television or daily newspapers (mostly the sports section for men, fashion for women). Now there´s a great source for unbiased truth. ;- Keith you

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Kinsley, In your defense, the taxation in the United states used to be progressive, now it is not. That means that those with the least disposable income pay for the infrastructure of the wealthy. How many lower middle class and poor use aircraft on a daily or weekly basis to get around?

Re: [Biofuel] Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Worst terror attacks in history

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
http://journeytoforever.org/midori_hiroshima.html On the 50th anniversary of Hiroshima by Midori Hiraga Published in Hongkong Standard, 6th August 1995 When I came to Hong Kong last year, I made up my mind not to speak about Hiroshima to people here. I thought: how can I talk about it before

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Keith, I think you are confusing what I said. I perfectly agreed with you that the U.S. is not a charitable organization, and does take much more than it gives (here and abroad). I can't speak for other developing nations, as I have only lived in the U.S. (answering Harkan's question in

[Biofuel] Cheap alcohol

2005-08-13 Thread Jim Marvel
Hello again, Just a quick question. Is there any reason not to use ethanol? I have a cheap and abundant source and see no reason to use the more dangerous methanol. ( Okay, I have a still). I make my own so will other costs rise due to the use of high proof 'squeezins'? I make from sugar cane. The

[Biofuel] Running on WVO

2005-08-13 Thread Andy Karpay
Hi all. I am relatively new to the list, and enjoy all the topics. Some mighty thoughtful folks in the group. I am currently running a 1981 Mercedes 300SD on filtered WVO. It runs great, and my wife swears it even runs better than on dino fuel. I am looking to purchase a newer vehicle to

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Dale Volzka
Hey- Good job!! Politics, definition: poli=many, tics=blood-sucking parasites. D.- Original Message - From: Tom Irwin To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] magnasol

2005-08-13 Thread Greg and April
Search the list archives, that should tell you all you need. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Vincent zadworny To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 17:48 Subject: [Biofuel] magnasol hello all, first i would like to catch

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all, Well said, Keith. Why thankyou Tom. You might mention that most people in the U.S. don´t read on a regular basis. They get most of thier info from television or daily newspapers (mostly the sports section for men, fashion for women). FauxTV, yes I might, but I didn't this time, no

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap alcohol

2005-08-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jim Hello again, Just a quick question. Is there any reason not to use ethanol? Please see: Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#ethylester I have a cheap and abundant source and see no reason to use the more dangerous methanol. (

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread robert luis rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things It is true that many of the Constitutional framers never intended the federal government to become the beaurocratic behemoth that is is today. They would have probably have revolted by now if they were

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
robert luis rabello wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert, Thank you for the reminders - I forgot a few things It is true that many of the Constitutional framers never intended the federal government to become the beaurocratic behemoth that is is today. They would have probably

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Where do I start? First, I have a real problem with any government (U.S., state, local) taking my hard earned money (in the form of taxes) and redistributing it to others. Now, there are legitimate things that each of these levels of government can spend

Re: [Biofuel] Re: washing again

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
Leave it in the sun for a day or two... DCBooth wrote: - Original Message - *From:* DCBooth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2005 12:39 AM *Subject:* Re: washing again

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap alcohol

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
Oh, when I saw the header I though...oh, never mind. Keith Addison wrote: Hello Jim Hello again, Just a quick question. Is there any reason not to use ethanol? Please see: Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#ethylester I have a cheap

Re: [Biofuel] washing?

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
Why read when I have Keith to send me relevant articles? I then send them on to my circle. I am always amazed when I get out of my little isulated circle of left-wing commie-pinko tree-hugger crackpot homebrew lunatics and talk to the real world. I had a date once with a college-educated,

Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
I meant it as a sarcasm. I don't have a giant SUV. I have a BD VW Golf. I heat my small house with wood, but am working on moving to a BD furnace because it's cleaner. Doug Younker wrote: I would have to guess that was intended as sarcasm. However across the USA you could read similar

[Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. I´m looking for a tough, long lasting vehicle that I can haul building

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-13 Thread aidan, cathy brad
we have a Ford '72 F250 that has really low mileage on it and were considering a diesel conversion. how far back did Ford make diesels for their trucks (assuming that they do.) any input would be appreciated. On Saturday, August 13, 2005, at 11:34 AM, Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m

[Biofuel] Running on WVO

2005-08-13 Thread John Wilson
HI, There are a few who are using 50:50 furnace and Bio to heat their homes in a conventional oil furnace.. Has anyone tried a 50:50 mix of WVO and furnace to do the same. I converted my VW to WVO, quit easy I might add and would like to try WVO in the oil furnace. The pre heater was approximately

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Hakan Falk
Earl, Why I asked? I am Swedish and have lived and worked in 8 countries including US, worked in 25 and visited 60+ more. I found many things that I liked and some things that I disliked in all of them. I can make myself understood in 5 languages, not including the Danish and Norweigian

Re: [Biofuel] Running on WVO

2005-08-13 Thread stephan torak
Hi Andy, and all the other Jeep Liberty Diesel prospective buyers I have one (only about 1500 mi) and here is my opinion. it is a good car, but I expected it to run a bit more economical in other words it is a borderline guzzler. Space is sufficient for 4 even 5 passengers, cargo room is ok

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-13 Thread robert luis rabello
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin variety as I have two small kids. What you need is the 4 door diesel Ranger, which is

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Robert, I´ll add that truck to my search list. Looks bigger than an S10. Thanks, Tom Irwin From: robert luis rabello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:06:36 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up TrucksTom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Harkan, I have lived in the U.S. all my life, but can't say I am that happy about everything in this country. The only other countries I have been to are Canada (not much different to the tourist) and Russia (post-Soviet Union). I have worked and socialized with people from other countries,

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-13 Thread Mike Weaver
I wish we could get *anything* with a diesel in the states. robert luis rabello wrote: Tom Irwin wrote: Hi All, It looks like I´m finally going redneck and buying my first pickup truck. Of course, it will be a diesel. I was looking at used Chevy S-10´s, particularly the double cabin

Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes

2005-08-13 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
I currently drive a 2001 Dodge Neon SE that gets about 31 mpg with the lowest grade of gasoline I can buy. I would like to buy a diesel Jetta and start producing my own BD, but I have to wait until my wife gets a new car, and that isn't in the budget for another year or so. Besides, I really

[Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-13 Thread Brian Rodgers
Thank you Tom, Robert, and everyone for the fantastic feedback. I received an email from my Dad, the retired chemist. He suggests we move away from the idea of de-polymerizing cellulose as it seems out of our reach financially and technologically. I am happy to let the process of

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-13 Thread Tim Schlueter
There seems to be general agreement on this list that the U.S. should avoid foreign entanglements, at least when it comes to some of the uglier tenets of foreign policy. Shouldn't we be just as concerned about so called benevolent tenets as well? Even feeding and clothing the oppressed will

Re: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-13 Thread robert luis rabello
Brian Rodgers wrote: My next research project will be steam power. Don't mess with steam unless you really know what you're doing. Hook up with local steam enthusiasts and learn EVERYTHING you can before putting yourself at risk. Boiler certification is mandated most everywhere for

[Biofuel] Deacidification

2005-08-13 Thread Ian Theresa Sims
Hi Guys I've just tested the WVO I've managed to obtain and tested out at 6grpl. Is this a candidate for deacidification? Cheers Ian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org