RE: [Biofuel] RE: WVO Filtration

2005-08-18 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Hi mike they are available new not cheep in lots of sizes at mcmastercarr.com be aware it is necessary to buy or build a stand. I made my own. Very inexpensive to do. Good luck Derick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent:

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Tim Schlueter
Keith, Yikes! I didn't mean to say conspiracy theory groups and Bush-bashers are one in the same. I'm not saying Bush or any other politician hasn't lied. I don't know. Whether or not a person believes what they say does not make them a conspiracy theorist. Corporations do not love anybody.

Re: [Biofuel] emulsion wash test

2005-08-18 Thread ings . group
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:49:33 -0400, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kieth: I am in fact a trained chemical technologist (not an Engineer) with 20 years experience. You, if I remember correctly, are a trained journalist. I bow to your choice and ease with words. You seem to believe

Re: [Biofuel] washing was: sealed wash tank was: emulsion wash test

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd Pieter, It did at the beginning of the thread. And is again (thankyou!), despite diversions. So after gently stir washing the biodiesel (with a low tech piece of wood trim) with about half part water as fuel I let it settle 24 hours and drained off the milky water. I was happy to

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tim Keith, Yikes! I didn't mean to say conspiracy theory groups and Bush-bashers are one in the same. You did say it though. Freudian slip? You have been behaving rather like someone caught in a tussle between facts and cherished notions. I'm not saying Bush or any other

Re: [Biofuel] emulsion wash test

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:49:33 -0400, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kieth: KEITH, thankyou. For the second time. I am in fact a trained chemical technologist (not an Engineer) with 20 years experience. You, if I remember correctly, are a trained journalist. :-) So that's all I'm

RE: [Biofuel] Global domination, was The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Stephan van Wyk
REad: Peace is the way by Deepak Chopra: Bringing war and violence to an end. Keep it real Stephan van Wyk -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Joe StreetSent: 17 August 2005 05:27To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject:

RE: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-18 Thread Kjell Lofgren
Tom, maybe I have to reevaluate my standings about my country when I read yourstatement, flattering for our socialists if the consensus is that we have a utopia here. Anyway, how about this: you fix all the wrongdoings on your side and I will try to coop withour governments ingenious

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Hmm...as a one time Two Truck driver I found the 7.3 w/ a stick unbeatable. The 6.2's didn't seem to have as much grunt. YMMV Wireless Data Transfer wrote: The 6.9L HP rating is near to the one of the 302 (5.0L), but the TORQUE figure is huge! The 5.0-litre was rated 185-205 hp, the 6.9

RE: [Biofuel] de-polymerizing cellulose not practical at this point

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin
Kjell, As I no longer this in the capitalists paradise I have only my vote and my electronic voice to change things. I will keep at it. I'm also training the next generation in sustainable methods in my Environmental Science class. It is a tiny hammer against a big rock but I keep pounding

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread ings . group
Clark: With those volumes I would want to build a continuous system. The following is a repeat of a recent post Aug 9 (with the additional note that the end product was said to have 2% more energy per unit than dino diesel. The cost is reduced even further by eliminating soduim hydroxide all

RE: [Biofuel] Global domination, was The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin
Stephan, I agree with you but it is difficult to be peaceful with mad dogs. Tom Irwin From: Stephan van Wyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:56:52 -0300Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Global domination, was The New Blue States/Country REad: Peace

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
Clark: With those volumes I would want to build a continuous system. The following is a repeat of a recent post Aug 9 (with the additional note that the end product was said to have 2% more energy per unit than dino diesel. The cost is reduced even further by eliminating soduim hydroxide all

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings Tim, Tolerance was in my vocabulary long before it became a buzz word, it is a word that summed up my father in one word. I wish he had lived long enough to see his teachings take root in his children. I will accept your definition of meek only as long as you realize that my

[Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this weekend. It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my car. We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our environment is extremely humid. We did have to process the virgin

Re: [Biofuel] emulsion wash test

2005-08-18 Thread Joe Street
Keith Addison wrote: Snip As opposed to your version, which is, just what? Follow the rules, rules made by whoever? Trust us we're experts? And let's not lose sight of one fact. How did the so called experts get to be experts? Such knowledge did not come down from heaven on wings

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Michael Redler
Hooray!! Why do I feel like I'm at someones graduation? :-) MikeGarth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings,Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this weekend. It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my car. We are going to have to

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread Joe Street
The following US patent offers making biodiesel by adding 15% MeOH What does this mean? There is no such compound as MeOH because there is no element with the symbol Me. Are you talking about methoxide? If so could you just say methoxide to avoid confusing people in future please.

[Biofuel] (no subject)

2005-08-18 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
HI ALL,IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE FLASH POINT OF METHANOL DOWN TO THE SAME AS NORMAL PETROL SO THAT I CAN USE IT AS FEUL FOR MY CAR THANX KOBUS S.A. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, For those who don't know MeOH stands for MEthane with an OH group attached. It's shorthand for methanol. Tom From: Joe Street [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:05:40 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin
Congratulations Folks, Tom Irwin From: Michael Redler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:56:50 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel Hooray!! Why do I feel like I'm at someones graduation? :-) MikeGarth Kim Travis [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] emulsion wash test

2005-08-18 Thread ings . group
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 06:28:18 -0400, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:49:33 -0400, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kieth: KEITH, thankyou. For the second time. Sorry. I have always had difficulty with that name - i before e etc. I am in fact a

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Tim Schlueter
Tom, Why do you quote 9th and 10th Commandment to me?  I havent forced my religious views on anyone.  There are civil and international laws that apply to stealing if that is to what you are referring.  I believe that would equate to the 7th commandment.  Now if you are implying that a

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Greg and April
Way To Go! Greg H. - Original Message - From: Garth Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:52 Subject: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel Greetings, Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-18 Thread Greg and April
Sound's very do-able, although I think I would go with the turbo just because I live at 5500 ft and have lot's of hills that can top out at 9000ft to 14000ft to climb ( some of them from a dead stop ). I do think I would stay with the automatic trannie, but, would see if I could find a

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
Well done Kim! Greetings, Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this weekend. It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my car. What a thrill when you start up the motor! We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread Joe Street
Ahh ok that makes sense. I thought it must be some exotic type of caustic used in this radical new process! I still think it would be less confusing to just say 'methanol' though ; I am thinking about how I could do a quick test to see what happens. I am guessing that the major factors involve

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Actually, that should read well done Garth, but since he doesn't talk on this list, I will pass it on. I passed making the biodiesel onto him because I just could not find time to do it. I am currently researching and implementing natural feed programs for all our animals on the

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread des
Joe Street wrote: Ahh ok that makes sense. I thought it must be some exotic type of caustic used in this radical new process! I still think it would be less confusing to just say 'methanol' though ; I am thinking about how I could do a quick test to see what happens. I am guessing that the

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-18 Thread bob allen
Hey Joe, Joe Street wrote: Where is the toxicology? For those on the list unfamiliar with MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) and the terminology this is what is missing no LD50 (lethal dose for 50% death rate -usually tested with rats) no LC50 (lethal concentration for 50% death rate)

[Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100?

2005-08-18 Thread Felipe Navarrete
Hi All, This is my first post on the list so hello fellow Biofuelers. I found a source for buying methanol here in Miami Florida. Location: South florida performance 18728 SW 107th Ave Miami, FL (305) 233-8520 Product: B.P. methanol. I believe he said it was m100. This is 100% percent

Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings, Actually, that should read well done Garth, Okay, well done Garth! :-) but since he doesn't talk on this list, I will pass it on. I passed making the biodiesel onto him because I just could not find time to do it. I am currently researching and implementing natural feed

Re: [Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100?

2005-08-18 Thread Eriva Randriamanjatosoa
Hi Felipe, it depends on what is reasonable. But it can be even cheaper -up to as low as USD .9 per gal- at www.methanex.com there must be a minimum quantity per order though, which I don't know. Try asking them at NORTH AMERICA Suite 1150 15301 Dallas Parkway Addison, TX 75001 USA T: +1

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-18 Thread Joe Street
Hi Bob; see comments below. bob allen wrote: Hey Joe, Joe Street wrote: Where is the toxicology? For those on the list unfamiliar with MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) and the terminology this is what is missing no LD50 (lethal dose for 50% death rate -usually tested with

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-18 Thread bob allen
Howdy Joe (I just had to write Hey Joe before. its the lead to a Jimmy hendrix song I enjoy.) more below Joe Street wrote: Hi Bob; see comments below. bob allen wrote: Hey Joe, Joe Street wrote: Where is the toxicology? For those on the list unfamiliar with MSDS (Material

[Biofuel] FW:

2005-08-18 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Hi all im not sure but I may have a problem. after many disappointing test batches I finally got several good test batches. I now moved on to a large batch using the same w v o used in the test batches. there was almost instant separation and as I have read mixing

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Tim, Being out of touch with major media in the U.S. may actually be a good idea. Fox news is generally viewed by folks like me as part of the neoconservative propaganda machine. CNN is a bit better but not by leaps and bounds. Where do you usually obtain your news from? On television I

RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Pick Up Trucks

2005-08-18 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Hi Greg Not to jump in but I did a engine swap last year in my 1985 motor home. It started with a 440cid gas motor 727 gas trans. I put in a 5.9 liter turbo Cummins. Bear in mind 35 ft 18900 lbs of motor home with the gas motor would go 75 mph in a blink. But had a heck of a time

[Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-18 Thread Rich
I am looking at the second chapter of Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel -Raw materials chapter at http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/meCh2.html#2_1. At the "Crop Residue" part, it says: "The "backbone" of sugar and starch crops -- the stalks and leaves -- is composed

Re: [Biofuel] deacidification

2005-08-18 Thread Ian Theresa Sims
Hi Keith This is probably the best stuff avalable in my small town, as it is from a food shop renound for quality food. Yes I did mean deacidification as per JTF site. I have 80 litres in 4 drums, I took three samples heated them to test for water and carried out the test three times I even

Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-18 Thread Greg and April
I doubt it. The lignin is harder to break down than the other sugars, so the other sugars are broken down first. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Rich To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 20:56 Subject: [Biofuel] Lignin crop

[Biofuel] First test batch

2005-08-18 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
Hi,Duncan,Jurie and all thanx for all your help, here in the vaal triangle it is hard to find the chemicals but with your help i managed to get it all together. last night i made my first batch the methoxside reacted immediately with the heated new oil,and i mixed it for obout 45 min it tured

[Biofuel] biofuel and Dodge

2005-08-18 Thread Miles Dave
I would like to get some input from some of you Dodge Cummins owners about how your trucks are running on biodiesel.What % biodiesel are you running and how long have you been running biodiesel? Any problems? What effect if any on fuel mileage. I own a 2001 Dodge with a H.O. 24 valve

[Biofuel] Energy content

2005-08-18 Thread james porakari
Dear all, Anyone can anyone help me to find information on energy content of palm oil and Kernel oil and also coconut oil. I am doing a research on bifuels as alternatives in Solmon Islands (South Pacific). I am student at University of South Pacific, Fiji. Thanks, James