Re: [Biofuel] Pimento rears his ugly head again. :-(

2006-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
No. It's not a Pimento clone. Least ways I don't think so. This is a syndicated piece that ran in newspapers all over the US last week. Some valid points. Some gross omissions. She certainly failed to mention or perhaps even consider algae, cellulosic ethanol and thermal depolymerization. And

[Biofuel] A little de-evolution humour....

2006-07-09 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.duke.edu/~charlie/AmishVirus.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns Still it's offensive to just cave in to them, What's somewhat offensive is that it takes that much power to keep you jolly. Your standard load should or could be much less. Peak load (power tools) could be handled by a

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
Why not think as carbon neutral as possible? Todd Swearingen Fritz Friesinger wrote: Hi Ken, how about a 25KVA Genset run on Methanegaz? it seems to me Methane is the Way to go! Why... there is the transport and handling of the Biofuel a lot of manpower involved! You can set up a

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-16 Thread Appal Energy
I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper, you should be the one to polish the words. As for context, it's beyond me how those who are spiritually/religiously inclined fail to be the first on the environmental bandwagon. A) Seems a trifle arrogant and

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
greed sector manipulating and creating wants/needs where none previously existed. Media is just the delivery mechanism. Todd Swearingen JJJN wrote: Todd, Points all well taken, see below. Appal Energy wrote: I would tend to believe that if you're expressing your belief / faith on paper

Re: [Biofuel] To Grid or Not to Grid?

2006-07-17 Thread Appal Energy
your penchant, me thinks you'd always kick yourself in the butt for not having a go at it right out of the chute. Todd Swearingen Ken Provost wrote: On Jul 16, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Appal Energy wrote: Well, since you invited the infusion of other's thought patterns I did

[Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
A bad day at Black Rock... http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jul1406-explosion_cause.113ae8b1.html Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released 02:30 PM MDT on Friday, July 14, 2006 KTVB.COM PAYETTE -- Investigators say they now know what caused an

Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
people think in these terms? its demented. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The truth about where to stand on global warming

Re: [Biofuel] EPA seizes thousands of illegally imported engines

2006-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
The Bush Administration will continue to enforce the Clean Air Act and stop illegal imports. The public's assistance and cooperation, along with the EPA's commitment to enforcing these regulations, is essential to preserving and protecting the nation's air quality. Chuckle..., chuckle...,

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
Mike Weaver wrote: I feel sorry for the guy and his family but using a torch around methanol? Back in my wrenching days my boss made sure we knew an empty gas tank was more danergous than a full one, and god forbid you did any welding the gas tank had to be filled with water first. Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Cause of New Plymouth biodiesel explosion released

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
. This was a case of operator error - a young man didn't realize the danger of methanol fumes and lost his life. Appal Energy wrote: It's sad to be making any comment on such a matter. Here you had a family that was on the edge of not only doing something great but putting themselves in an enormously

Re: [Biofuel] Trash Talk

2006-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
This is a PR piece, with the author being used to represent only a few of the facts. One of these little puppies is in the vicinity of Leesburg, Florida. In order to build it, the owner required a consistent volume of garbage and had the county/municipality agree to the tonnage. Unfortunately,

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
Thomas, Why? You asked... 1) There's greater profit in blending biodiesel rather than selling straight. 2) Scrap all the misinformation about engine problems at higher blends. 3) Also scrap his misinformation about emissions benefits tapering off at 10%. They actually do little until after

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
, economic benefits aren't in line with environmental benefits. And the subsidy dollar doesn't help that matter either. Could you explain these two points? Thanks, Tom - Original Message - From: Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry Thomas, A) The subsidy is for blended fuel only, up to $1.00 per gallon for B-99 from first use feedstock

Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
Let's see. Use only good oil, no fats, eh? So what is the friendly restaurant owner going to do with the chaf after the local redneck/tree-hugger has taken the cream off the top? Nice methanol exposure demonstration. Kids gather 'round and watch daddy real close... Then there's the

Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Redneck biodiesel video Let's see. Use only good oil, no fats, eh? So what is the friendly restaurant owner

Re: [Biofuel] Question on clogged filters

2006-07-27 Thread Appal Energy
I think the filter clogging story is just an urban legend. Not. It's a reality. More predominant in bulk fuel storage. Automobiles can generally get away with regular maintenace intervals as the fuel is constantly being sloshed and jostled, not allowing the gringe to aggregate in abundance.

Re: [Biofuel] Fluorescent fuel?

2006-07-27 Thread Appal Energy
It recycles it, getting more total btus per barrel or ton than just the single use alone. Algae for biodiesel will stretch a btu by about 45%, or to be read another way, a 45% increase in fuel economy. Todd Swearingen Joe Street wrote: So if we use a plant to remove CO2 from the atmosphere

Re: [Biofuel] Question on clogged filters

2006-07-28 Thread Appal Energy
) there is a volume reduction that takes place as I can see a deformation of the container which indicates a slight vacuum inside. I assume this is due to oxygen reacting with the fuel? Is this a good assumption? Is the sediment I talked about the source of the filter clogging in bulk storage? Joe Appal

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-07-31 Thread Appal Energy
And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Kirk McLoren wrote: 1000 gallons methanol per acre with hemp if using pyrolytic distillation. Kirk */Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Could we replace all our oil with

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what firm is financing it, at least not until they issue their first press release, which they may have already done for all

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving? And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd Swearingen \ Kirk

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
biodiesel from it. Peace, D. Mindock - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving? And/or 100,000 gallons of oil per acre when growing algae. Todd

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Tom, Per horizontal acre, with the algae growing vertically. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html Bookmark that page and think about buying stock in the manufacturers of the technology. That is if you have all your credit cards payed off first. Todd Swearingen Tom

Re: [Biofuel] Coal

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
The answer is simple. Existing Infrastructure, capitalizing on it and profit. Hoodwinking (manipulation) is all a part of the game. Todd Swearingen JJJN wrote: I have never understood why when they know that putting it in the air is bad they would start to try and mess up the aquifers too.

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
? Such a cell line should be in the literature. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
are these guys published? Such a cell line should be in the literature. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, So in short Todd, as with the last 25 years, there is no biodiesel from algae right now on Planet Earth, but hey! it's just around the corner (December next year this time). Ho-hum, yawn... You can ho-hum-hokum-yawn all you wish. What good things are there that you can think of that

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
wrote: I didnt see mention of 10^5 gallons of oil. I did see mention of scrubbing stack gasses. Kirk */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Actually that's a conservative value. See http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html and calculate what you

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-04 Thread Appal Energy
Keith, Right Todd, more big-central stuff, with a cast of millions (of dollars) Being cynical is fine and quite often healthy. Being oblivious to what surrounds one is often to one's own and other's detriment. There are over 15,000 commercial boilers in the US. We're not speaking of just hot

Re: [biofuels-biz] Class 7 truck

2003-12-05 Thread Appal Energy
Bill, All the same rules apply to commercial as they do to passenger vehicles, or for that matter stationary engines, relative to compatibility, performance and legality issues. The two biggest areas of concern for the commercial user are verification that road taxes have been paid, should you

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
Larry, Military recruitment/recruiters are as much a part of the problem as are the policy makers. All one has to do is look at the deceptive, predatory and intimidating practices of recruitment to gain insight as to the manipulative mentality that must be well guarded against in all

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
wrote: Todd, could you elaborate on deceptive, predatory and intimidating ? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 09:31 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
a Military uniform is dishonorable and violates that individuals right to free speech. Larry On 6/3/05, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry, Military recruitment/recruiters are as much a part of the problem as are the policy makers. All one has to do is look at the deceptive, predatory

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 09:31 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang Larry, Military recruitment/recruiters are as much a part of the problem as are the policy makers. All

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
Salute Keith.. :-) Here you go. Was walking through the parking lot of a local grocery last week when the woman walking in front of me threw her half-finished cigarette on the asphalt. I stopped, mentally shook my head, then picked up the still lit cigarette, trucked up behind her and

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-03 Thread Appal Energy
don't consider myself as polished as you. I'm hoping that by studying your posts, I can improve on that. :-) Mike */Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Salute Keith.. :-) Here you go. Was walking through the parking lot of a local grocery last week when the woman

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-04 Thread Appal Energy
It goes nowhere Ron, because you take it nowhere. By all appearances, or at least in this instance, you seem to be the type of person who would boil the kettle dry and still think and try to persuade others that what's at the bottom of the pot is still tea. There's a far greater bit to life's

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel

2005-06-04 Thread Appal Energy
Bill, One would imagine that a gasifier would reduce all components of the glyc cocktail to syn gas and char. Gasification is a novel thought to reducing that waste/co-product to nill though. No addition of anything. No chemical refining. No new energy inputs. No disposal problem with the

[Biofuel] Efficiency on the Immediate Event Horizon...

2005-06-04 Thread Appal Energy
Japan Squeezes to Get the Most of Costly Fuel bylineBy JAMES BROOKE Japan is urging citizens to replace their appliances and buy hybrid vehicles, as part of an effort to save energy. ... In Germany, where heating accounts for the largest share of home energy use, a new energy saving law has as

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel

2005-06-04 Thread Appal Energy
Acrolein is a co-/by-product of incomplete combustion of glycerol. One would think that at ~2,000* F (the Wood Gun) the combustion process would be complete. Todd Swearingen R Del Bueno wrote: Any concerns to possible toxic emissions...as with the concern of some SVOers? I have heard that

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Lisa, You're not debunking any myth. What you're doing is sidetracking the truth through an act of omission. Plutonium when ingested is essentially regarded as relatively harmless (not entirely, but relatively) as it's biological residence time is so short. In fact, notorious nuclear zealot

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Terry, You forgot to include with your military sales pitch/brochure travel to exotic places, meet interesting people and then kill them. And come on. On a per capita basis no more military personel than civilians die each day from walking out the front door of their domiciles. It's what

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
comments like xenophobic rant and load of bull are not discussion. And you may notice Ms. Simpson, neither are comments such as it's just plain good ole advise. Presuming that you are a resident of a democracy with an equal protection under the law clause in its constitution, you might

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, Go back and read what was written. It was an option that you could exercise, whether knowingly or not. It was far from a personal attack. You'll know a personal attack beyond any shadow of a doubt should there ever be cause for one to occur. So as you suggested, let's stick to

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Awww, that's okay capt3d, I've been slobbered, drooled on and thoroughly drenched by enough infants in my day as to not much worry about it anymore and tend to treat it all as part of normal fare. Slurring is righ up there with involuntary actions for some. So I shouldn't be overly dismayed

Re: [Biofuel] media hype...was debunking popular myths

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, To summarize: my argument is against the hype, not the relative toxicity of plutonium. If your argument was against hype as you claim, you'd take notice of the disproportional hype relative to oral ingestion and the charades of the likes of Cohen and you wouldn't have leant to

Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, These are your original words that you coupled with the fake Robin Williams text: Lisa Simpson wrote: You gotta love Robin Williams... Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan .. what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Greg, *The military is just like any other company trying to get you to join, in that it is going to push the fun exciting stuff, while under emphasizing the bad. The military does far more than just push the fun exciting stuff... to net recruits. I guess you didn't read the references

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-07 Thread Appal Energy
ago, just more along the lines of a few recruiters, being more extreme. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:52 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-07 Thread Appal Energy
So why don't we just put an initiative on the next national ballot to make it fair? All those people in charge of formulating policy and rubbing the wrong way against the policies of other nations should be the ones to strap on the body armour and go toe to toe with their international

Re: [Biofuel] How would any of you answer this one?

2005-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
Ken, Are you saying that the refining of uranium and nuclear power in general does not contribute to greenhouse gases? Seems as if you glossed over this part: Indeed, a nuclear power plant must operate for 18 years before producing one net calorie of energy. How many years must a

[Biofuel] Where has all the renewable fuels money gone?

2005-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
Want to know where all the money for renewable fuels and efficiency is going? Read on McDuff* http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050610/twothirds_on_defense.php * Two-Thirds On Defense Jurgen Brauer and Nicholas Anglewicz June 10, 2005 *Many Americans believe

Re: [Biofuel] Reprocessing Biodiesel

2005-06-11 Thread Appal Energy
Richard, No reprocessing should be necessary. If all the little bits came from skimmings from wash stages or accumulations from base reactions then they've already been processed suffciently. Take a sample and wash it. If it separates quickly and cleanly there should be no reason to be

Re: [Biofuel] How would any of you answer this one?

2005-06-11 Thread Appal Energy
: There's a lot less iron in a two-row plow and a team of mules than there is in an International tractor. Rule of thumb on a farm - if the animal doesn't pay its own way, it's not kept for very long. Ken Riznyk wrote: --- Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken, Are you saying

Re: [Biofuel] How would any of you answer this one?

2005-06-12 Thread Appal Energy
Ken, You get the same number of sun hours in PA as we do in OH. It's more a matter of degree of income and degree of commitment. We're not there yet either and probably never will be if we have to pay someone to install a system rather than do it ourselves. That more than doubles the cost per

Quote of the week... was ...Re: [Biofuel] Electromagnetic Pulse Alert

2005-07-01 Thread Appal Energy
Anyway, what's a terrorist bomb as opposed to an ordinary bomb, I mean an official bomb, you know, one a government owns or something, with a flag painted on it? Keith Addison 7/1/2005 10:30 GMT Keith Addison wrote: Hello Rich On C-SPAN, June 21 2005, I saw a fascinating

Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-04 Thread Appal Energy
We do not live in the US. Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel? Something that requires a boatload of fossil fuels to smelt, sheet and press. Nice thing about renewables. They're renewable. And to a very large they do it in a carbon neutral way without much

Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-05 Thread Appal Energy
mined, and no new land is disturbed to bury the old broken washing machine that got melted down. Were the electricity generated in a sustainable way, it would be all good. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent

Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-05 Thread Appal Energy
. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:30 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ? We do not live in the US. Would like to know what is this panasteel

Re: [Biofuel] 45 gallons of cream

2005-07-05 Thread Appal Energy
Any Ideas? Yup. But you're not going to like 'em. 1st) Your batch didn't go perfect if you got that heavy of an emulsion. 2nd) Best to always do a quick swirl wash of only an ounce or two prior to comitting to washing an entire batch. 3rd) Remove several 100 ml samples of the emulsion. Label

Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?

2005-07-05 Thread Appal Energy
Essentially, even recycled steel products are entirely carbon negative. Less energy than virgin steel, but entirely carbon negative. Uh., make that carbon positive. (Knew I should have taken that speed thinking course instead of the speed typing one.) Todd Swearingen Appal Energy

Re: [Biofuel] 45 gallons of cream(part 2)

2005-07-06 Thread Appal Energy
Brent, First we've heard of adding methanol to break an emulsion. But then again, anything hydrophillic, if it works. Congratulations. You are aware, however, that methanol boils at 145*F? You were very close to having instantaneous vaporization when you added it. Hopefully you're

Re: [Biofuel] Pimentel is at it again

2005-07-06 Thread Appal Energy
All that having been said, Pimental is right that soy and corn alone cannot replace our petroleum addiction Essentially, soybeans are not grown for their oil value. They're grown for the feed value, whether human destined or livestock. The oil is more a co-product, almost waste product in

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
Jerry Turner, Pull your head out of your back socket son and grab some fresh air, at least enough so as to start seeing straight instead of being asphyxiated by your own stink. Perhaps the reason why Mr. Chomsky doesn't mention September 11th and doesn't play upon the lives lost is because

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
- From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid Jerry Turner, Pull your head out of your back socket son and grab some fresh air, at least enough so as to start seeing straight

[Biofuel] A look in the mirror for America

2005-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
Live! From Boston, Massachusettes and the Boston Globe, it's A look in the mirror for America By Derrick Z. Jackson | July 8, 2005 http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/08/a_look_in_the_mirror_for_america/ IN HIS INITIAL reaction yesterday to the London

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
pleased with the wastefulness of your endeavors.. Todd Swearingen Jerry Turner wrote: ...struck a nerve did I. :) Okay, mission accomplished :) :):) Jerry Turner - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday

Re: [Biofuel] out with the wash

2005-07-08 Thread Appal Energy
Uhhh.Vincent, A question about all those crap batches that i have sitting in barrels, they have sat out in the open air and sun for about a month or two and am wondering if they can just go down the drain?? My hearing is a little off, right? You wouldn't pour barrels of veg oil and

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-09 Thread Appal Energy
Tim Brodie, I find it fascinating that virtually nothing has been said in this forum about London. Lots of argument about what each person thinks their unimpeachable sources of information say. Nothing about the current event that demonstrates the face of this evil, and the nature of the

[Biofuel] Quote of the day...

2005-07-10 Thread Appal Energy
I think there is a legitimate feeling, 'Why me? What did I do wrong?' Florida Gov. Jeb Bush http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=925895 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid- limbaugh

2005-07-10 Thread Appal Energy
Hitler would have been a guaranteed success as American talk show host. Some similarities Hakan, but even Limbaugh is only marginally popular. Most of my right-wing friends see him for precisely what he is - a showman who's painted himself into a corner. A lucrative corner at that. Even

Re: question on desert storm was Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-10 Thread Appal Energy
Kim, Will you please provide references for this? Granted, Kuwait was invaded. Granted, Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraqi oilfields. Granted, Iraq took no effort to resolve the issue diplomatically. Which part? I presume the former and the latter are rather uncontestable. So as to the

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-10 Thread Appal Energy
for one, along with hundreds of millions of others don't care to be dragged any further into the queer game of roulette that our supposed leaders choose to pursue. Todd Swearingen Tim Brodie wrote: Hi Todd: Appal Energy wrote: Why would you find it fascinating? People build bombs. People

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-10 Thread Appal Energy
Rather tidy qualifier here Mr. Brodie, By all means we should look to fixing the causes, if it is legitimate for us to do so. Always nice to leave enough wiggle room as to justify irresponsibility. Would you care to give me 10:1 odds were I to guess as to who gets assigned to determine

Re: [Biofuel] Taking to the Wind

2005-07-13 Thread Appal Energy
The Altamont Pass towers are of the lattice type, providing endless attraction to birds for resting and nesting. Power companies are hoping to not have to replace the towers with monocoques until the turbines reach the end of their life cycle. Essentially what is being found is that wind power

Re: [Biofuel] Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths

2005-07-13 Thread Appal Energy
Just because something may be doable doesn't mean that it's feasible, whether that feasibility is higher ratios of waste, expanded dispersal of radioactivity, increased economic cost, increased energy cost, etc., etc., etc. Even if all things are equal in comparison to traditional refining,

Re: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel production and motorcycles

2005-07-13 Thread Appal Energy
Rebuilt VW long and short blocks. www.vwdieselparts.com Reasonable pricing. Fairly good service. Probably something similar to this somewhere at a theatre near you so you wouldn't have to pay a freight bill. Todd Swearingen bob allen wrote: Michael Redler wrote: Bob, I don't

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
I'm curious what list members might think of the ethics/morality of using animal power, where practical, to grow and harvest crops. Ancient proverb: If you don't work, you don't eat. Carry that proverb one step further: If you don't work, you get eaten. Livestock play as essential a role

[Biofuel] Recipes for Treason

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Saving Karl Rove Paul Waldman July 14, 2005 http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050714/saving_karl_rove.php /Paul Waldman is a senior fellow with / /Media Matters for America/ http://mediamatters.org/ /and a senior contributor to/ The Gadflyer http://gadflyer.com/.

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
What kind of mileage do those old (70s) engines get? Depending upon the condition, 40-50 mpg. A rebuild or seldom used engine would be at the top end. Anything under 40 mpg should have the top end looked at to see where the compression is being lost. Todd Swearingen Chris wrote: What kind

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
For what it's worth, these are the words that Master Brodie used relative to my acknowledging that someone was bitching (complaining) about something. I notice that he uses words like 'bitch' when in the context of corresponding with a woman, which in other circles would border on

Re: Bitch was Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Yup, You're right Kim. It was Jill Mello who applied the talk show chatter double standard. Sorry. Just don't have 1,000% retention or time to reflect completely on the whinings of others when there are hundreds of things left undone at every day's end. As to Call Me Bitch? Worthwhile

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Where are the debunkings of each and everyone of these talking points?' And what is it about the facts that the RNC is so scared about that they have to coach their minions on what to say, when and to whom? The old adage I think, therefore I don't vote Republican certainly comes to mind at

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Wilson's Iraq Assertions Hold Up Under Fire From Rove Backers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1103sid=a8dab8rni_Dorefer=us July 14 (Bloomberg) -- Two-year old assertions by former ambassador Joseph Wilson regarding Iraq and uranium, which lie at the heart of the controversy over

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
are masters at it. -chris -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:12:46 -0400 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points Where are the debunkings of each and everyone of these talking points

Re: [Biofuel] glycerine ?

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
It will change the equation equilibrium slightly. Don't know if anyone has done any analysis as to how much, theoretically or in reality. Depends on how much is re-included in your next reaction. You should have your processor set up to drain completely, or within a few fluid ounces or so.

Re: [Biofuel] adding carbon vs. carbon dioxide to the atmosphere

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
One thing that's not entirely clear to me is argument of biofuel not increasing amount of carbon in environment whereas fossil fuels do so. Nothing tricky about the issue at all Rafal. Carbon dioxide of plant origin returns to the plants with each growing cycle. This is called carbon neutral.

Re: [Biofuel] CUMMINS B5.9TD GOD BLESS THE SOULS WHO DIED , HELP FOR ENGLAND WANTED, IME TRYING

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
Terry, Ask your mechanic Why? he tells you that biodiesel cannot be used in your vehicle. I think everyone who uses biodiesel would care to hear his or her rationale(s). Todd Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I HOPE IME SENDING THIS MESSAGE TO CORRECT ADDRESS, IME ABOUT TO START

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
Hellow Keith, Actually, the following was intended as a comment for general dispersal, directed more towards that have the habit of double standard, not directed to Hakan or anyone specific. But please, at least have the decency to leave the double standards and short circuits in your

Re: [Biofuel] CUMMINS B5.9TD GOD BLESS THE SOULS WHO

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
Swearingen John Hayes wrote: Based on the 1993 date, I suspect it may simply be an issue of incompatible seals and fuel lines, no? Appal Energy wrote: Terry, Ask your mechanic Why? he tells you that biodiesel cannot be used in your vehicle. I think everyone who uses biodiesel would care

Re: [Biofuel] adding carbon vs. carbon dioxide to the atmosphere

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
Rafal, Everything exerts its share. The question is what contribution do you wish to unite with your soul. Everything else and anything else is meaningless. TAS Rafal Szczesniak wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 10:06:05AM -0400, Appal Energy wrote: One thing that's

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-15 Thread Appal Energy
Awww Keith, Screw sweetness and light. We gots ourself a full fledged heat lighting storm blowing on a crystal clear night after no rain for thirty days. Sweetness is out the window. Light is abundant. Rain is what is needed. Yet all that is and what isn't can be lived without. And so shall

I don't think many people really get it was Re: [Biofuel] Turd Blossom aka Karl Rove

2005-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back pedaling means. When he states that anyone who has committed a crime (instead of the previous position of firing anyone who contributed to outing Mrs. Wilson) will be fired, he also includes whatever possibility there may be

Re: [Biofuel] Re: I don't think many people really get it

2005-07-19 Thread Appal Energy
to at least permit the world the scent of justice, even if but for a brief hour in the none too distant future. Todd Swearingen Ken Provost wrote: on 7/19/05 6:10 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back pedaling means

Re: [Biofuel] Re: I don't think many people really get it

2005-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
in the none too distant future. Todd Swearingen Ken Provost wrote: on 7/19/05 6:10 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think most people understand what Mr. Bush's most recent back pedaling means. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Rove

Re: [Biofuel] Pirates of the Corporation

2005-07-21 Thread Appal Energy
Invest in yourself. The rate of return is much higher. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote: I did sell all my stock in UC after that - as a matter of fact I am having a hard time trying to invest responsibly. Anyone have suggestions? Keith Addison wrote: Hello Mike How was the Bhopal

Re: [Biofuel] Pirates of the Corporation

2005-07-21 Thread Appal Energy
Indeed -- invest in a 100,000 gallon tank of safflower oil or ethanol underground in the back forty, or maybe a warehouse full of Mobil 1 motor oil:-) Make sure to nitrogen pack the former. Ken Provost wrote: Invest in yourself. The rate of return is much higher. Todd

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