Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-25 Thread Party of Citizens
with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * - Original Message - From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
Do you think solar power at Moonshine City could be economically beamed to Earth? POC On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Martin K wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC What

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:20:04 -0800 (PST), Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think solar power at Moonshine City could be economically beamed to Earth? POC On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Martin K wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Since wind and water

[Biofuel] Message from POC Mosquito

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
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Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Anti-Fossil wrote: * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Ahhh Grasshopper ... this is

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-23 Thread Party of Citizens
Party of Citizens wrote: Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC What is Moonshine City, and why are wind and water power out? The base/colony President Bush wants built on the Moon post-2015. Z

[Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-19 Thread Party of Citizens
Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Party of Citizens
What are the future prospects for tapping the jet stream winds and using them as a source of power? POC NE Colorado has a lot of wind and allot of grassland.It is said that the reason that it's grassland, is that the wind blows all the snow and rain to Kansas. Greg H. -

Re: [Biofuel] Wind Turbines

2005-01-18 Thread Party of Citizens
While all these serious scientists are at work, the imagineering too tyempting to pass up. We now have a solar-powered non-piloted airplane which can stay aloft indefinitely. Imagine aircraft like this with wind turbines built it and rugged enough to stay aloft in the jet stream and follow its

Re: [Biofuel] the smart car

2005-01-12 Thread Party of Citizens
If it is a really smart car, it will teach OCW at MIT. POC Where is this information from, Luc? Regards, Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc. Neoteric Biofuels Inc. http://www.biofuels.ca Support Engineers Without Borders. See: www.ewb.ca On Jan 11, 2005, at 5:42 PM, Legal Eagle wrote:

[Biofuel] [space-city] Re: [Antigravity] Antigravity or gravifugal? (fwd)

2005-01-07 Thread Party of Citizens
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Petar Bosnic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [space-city] Re: [Antigravity] Antigravity or gravifugal

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Nuclear vs coal (Tomas Juknevicius's question)

2004-12-20 Thread Party of Citizens
Does the burning of wood also cause radioactive emissions? POC http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Michael Redler wrote: This question goes back

Re: [Biofuel] 45 Million Children To Die in Next Decade Due to RichCountries' Miserliness

2004-12-07 Thread Party of Citizens
What if cities of the planet were given the responsibility for providing the necessities of life to the citizens in and around them? POC http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1206-06.htm Published on Monday, December 6, 2004 by OneWorld.net 45 Million Children To Die in Next Decade Due to

RE: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities Footprint

2004-12-03 Thread Party of Citizens
Cities-built-anew are conceptualized first and all citizens can be players at this level. It will be interesting to see what sort of conceptual plans are presented for WUF V in 2006. http://www.geocities.com/WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Biofuel] about Godbot

2004-11-12 Thread Party of Citizens
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004, Peggy wrote: The essence of egg-o-ism drew the chicken unto itself and into a future probability as did the squawking joy of reverberating sound made by the chicken as she laid her first egg. Forevermore the sound of joyful laying of eggs shall disrupt hen houses

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-27 Thread Party of Citizens
Yes ... best explanation I've heard yet on how weightlessness in orbit works. Thanks! Z Zandu Goldbar King Loges-de-Corbeaux Alberta-BC Border Loges-de-Corbeaux BC-Alberta Z6Z 6Z6 CANADA 666-666-

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-26 Thread Party of Citizens
Yes, 17,500 is LEO speed and it is about the speed that Goddard thought a rocket train in a vacuum tube could attain across America when he took out his patent on it. Is it Holoman AFB where they do the rocket train tests and have achieved about 1/2 that speed ... without the benefit of a

[Biofuel] Re: Re: [space-city] Re: SPACE STATION CREWS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM ORBIT (fwd)

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
book - Original Message - From: Bill Watamaniuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [space-city] Re: SPACE STATION CREWS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM ORBIT (fwd) Party of Citizens wrote: Please explain why the sand pile

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
I defer to the physicists on this but my guess would be that the sheer weight of the pile of trash or sand (eg from Tar Sands, Alberta) would be the limiting factor. It might crush the earth's crust or move it and cause eathquakes. However, in the case of Tar Sands, we are moving the sand

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
Looks interesting alright but the nice thing about the Tar Sands of Alberta is that the sand tailings over the next few centuries could easily make a sand pile that high and they have to go somewhere. So why not up? Z Zandu Goldbar King

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
, Peter G. Thailand --- Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks interesting alright but the nice thing about the Tar Sands of Alberta is that the sand tailings over the next few centuries could easily make a sand pile that high and they have to go somewhere. So why not up

[Biofuel] Re: [space-city] Re: SPACE STATION CREWS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM ORBIT (fwd)

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Bill Watamaniuk wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Perhaps you failed to understand plain English. I said Wind up and throw like Mickey Mantle to launch the satellite from the top, since I

[Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-23 Thread Party of Citizens
Speaking of land fills, any opinions on Mount Trashmore in Michigan? It is a very nice ski hill we hear, built up thanks to a lot of Canadian trash exported from Ontario. The liners are supposed to prevent leaching. Do they work? If so, here's your trivial pursuit question for the day: Since the

Re: [Biofuel] U.N.: Indoor Pollution Kills 1.6M Per Year

2004-10-18 Thread Party of Citizens
Dust and dust mites, mold etc. also kill thousands at least. Z Zandu Goldbar King Loges-de-Corbeaux Alberta-BC Border Loges-de-Corbeaux BC-Alberta Z6Z 6Z6 CANADA 666-666- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Re: Jewish settlers atttack US christians

2004-10-05 Thread Party of Citizens
The entire Jewish invasion of the Dead Sea Region is an attack on Christianity. Jesus Christ said He came only to find the (spiritual) lost sheep of Israel. That being true, then who has right of return to New Israel? The followers of Jesus Christ. Since the Jews are against the teachings of

Re: [Biofuel] Israel's Terrorists

2004-10-01 Thread Party of Citizens
It becomes a matter of IDENTITY doesn't it? Who is who? Z http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Israel's Terrorists Here is yet one more

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel University

2004-09-28 Thread Party of Citizens
This post makes me wonder ... what if a university were dedicated to a single purpose, like energy or even one aspect of energy. Would that be a good thing? Z http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person

Re: [Biofuel] Ice Farming in the desert

2004-09-27 Thread Party of Citizens
Antarctica is very good for ice-making and ice-bergs have made it as far as the equator Z http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens - Original Message - From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ice

[biofuel] CalTech car runs half of DARPA course ... autonomously

2004-03-09 Thread Party of Citizens
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:26:42 -0800 From: Alex Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SeattleRobotics] DARPA news flash! Hi, Just got back from spectating at the first day of DARPA Grand

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread Party of Citizens
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, murdoch wrote: http://www.nature.com/nsu/040301/040301-15.html They're pretty much what you'd think, from the name. Just saw an ABC news presentation on this contest and the vehicles. By 2015 apparently the Pentagon has said that 1/3 of military vehicles must drive

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread Party of Citizens
Right you are, Mongo. What is Ralph Nader's slogan? Unsafe at any speed? Yes we cling to our personal autos like well like Mongo would cling to his horse in the wild west days. But imagine a city in which personal autos are left in parkades at the perimeter. You can still use them for

Re: [biofuel] Re:Greywater systems

2003-12-30 Thread Party of Citizens
Has anyone read John Sheaffer's book, Future Water? He claims, with various projects throughout US as evidence, that all of the sewage from modern cities can be recycled in a cost-effective way to at least become water for ponds which are suitable for recreational use. ZG On Mon, 29 Dec 2003

Re: [biofuel] World's first hydrogen service station opens in Iceland

2003-04-28 Thread Party of Citizens
Isn't there a model community project in Toronto which used a hydrogen generator for all of its electric power? Does anybody have any details? POC On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, Keith Addison wrote: http://www.enn.com/news/2003-04-25/s_4075.asp World's first hydrogen service station opens in Iceland

Re: [biofuel] 42,850 Traffic Deaths in 2002

2003-04-26 Thread Party of Citizens
I was on Granville Mall, Vancouver, yesterday. Nice and peaceful and safe. Only city buses, taxis etc. can travel that street. Lots of big green trees along the street and there would be no smog at all to disrupt their growth if all vehicles were electric or hydrogen. If all future city streets

RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant

2003-03-08 Thread Party of Citizens
a negative efficiency if you have to use energy to turn the CO2 into solid carbon. --- Martin Klingensmith nnytech.net infoarchive.net -Original Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:06 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE

RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant

2003-03-07 Thread Party of Citizens
group of troglodytes that thinks genetically modified crops are our answer to a prayer I suppose it all makes sense. :) Kirk -Original Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:19 PM To: Martin Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant

2003-03-06 Thread Party of Citizens
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Martin wrote: A representative went on to say: biofuels? You mean wood? Of course, the $1B couldn't be better spent on something like, say: SOLAR or WIND power. Seriously, they want to trap the carbon dioxide that comes out, and do WHAT with it. What would you

RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant

2003-03-06 Thread Party of Citizens
Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:19 PM To: Martin Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Martin wrote: A representative went on to say: biofuels? You

RE: [biofuel] U.S. Seeking Cleaner Model of Coal Plant

2003-03-06 Thread Party of Citizens
? Considering this is the same group of troglodytes that thinks genetically modified crops are our answer to a prayer I suppose it all makes sense. :) Kirk -Original Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:19 PM To: Martin Cc: biofuel

Re: [biofuel] Re: Direct Democracy

2002-11-28 Thread Party of Citizens
And what superior mind is going to give us the laws to which the rule of law applies? POC On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, motie_d wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, sure...I know this I am better than my fellow citizens attitude. POC

Re: [biofuel] Re: Direct Democracy

2002-11-27 Thread Party of Citizens
Sure, sure...I know this I am better than my fellow citizens attitude. POC On 26 Nov 2002, Kelsey Jordahl wrote: milliontc writes: I wonder if anyone would like to make comment on the following... Direct Democracy I think direct democracy is a terrible idea. People are

Re: [biofuel] Re: Direct Democracy

2002-11-27 Thread Party of Citizens
Why stop there. What red blooded American wouldn't want to uphold his constitutional right to bear arms with a Gerald Bull Super-Gun in the backyard or a basement full of suitcase nukes? POC On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Greg and April wrote: Not to be patranizing or anything, but, why don't you

Re: [biofuel] Re: Direct Democracy

2002-11-26 Thread Party of Citizens
There should be some test of minimal mental competence before people can vote and those who do not know the difference between a mob and a society of responsible citizens would fail the test. POC On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, motie_d wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [biofuel] Re: Direct Democracy

2002-11-26 Thread Party of Citizens
The Swiss have had direct democracy for over 100 years and only have about 3 referenda per year though they can have as many as they want. Responsible democratic citizens are not so stupid as to change the laws every day. POC On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, motie_d wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Party

RE: [biofuel] MIT offers all courses free online

2002-10-13 Thread Party of Citizens
26,000 learners are studying OU courses outside the UK. Andy -Original Message- From: Party of Citizens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:32 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] MIT offers all courses free online

Re: [biofuel] MIT offers all courses free online

2002-10-12 Thread Party of Citizens
Some say this is only a matter of putting course outlines on the Internet but I am inclined to agree with you that for the $100,000,000 projected budget one would expect a lot more. POC On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, womplex_oo1 wrote: http://web.mit.edu/ Congratulations to MIT, the first school in

RE: [biofuel] Ethanol Wrecks our engines....

2002-10-10 Thread Party of Citizens
Yeah, but it goes down great with orange juice. We need ethanol at every gas pump! -Rolf Klein Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM

Re: [biofuel] cars in the developing world

2002-10-05 Thread Party of Citizens
I think the developing world would be better off to MINIMIZE its use of cars and avoid the carnage and cost here. I read a UN article on India ca. 1990 which called it a nation of villages. If they could perfect the village as a habitat and then perfect inter-village transportation other than by

Re: [biofuel] Huge seabed methane find off Canada's west coast

2002-09-22 Thread Party of Citizens
You don't have to leave Victoria to find an abundance of gas in BC. POC On Sun, 22 Sep 2002, Keith Addison wrote: tvoivozhd commented on the Homestead list recently: About time attention was turned to this energy resource---about four times that contained in more familiar coal, oil and gas

Re: [biofuel] WTK: tweaks and add-ons to make *stationary* diesels less polluting

2002-08-04 Thread Party of Citizens
Any comments on the CTV News clip a couple of nights ago re biofuel? POC On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Neoteric Biofuels Inc. wrote: Canola and HOSO (high oleic sunflower oil) lubricating oils already exist and are proving themselves nicely. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc Neoteric Biofuels Inc. Located in