I picked them off the DoD page. 1,500, 1,800, it's still a large
number, and it does not include Iraqis.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are
already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a
Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi Mike,
Don´t worry you´re not going to burst my bubble. Mid term elections
are coming up. I really hope the Republicans try to pass it before
those so they can get clobbered in the House. Trying it after the mid
term elections offers a bit more politically cover but
Tom Irwin wrote:
They can keep the
pictures of the flag drapped caskets from view but it´s really the
wounded they´re going to have the most problems with. You can pretty
much calculate that half of those 11,500 have been horribly maimed or
burned. Bombs and booby traps do that kind of thing.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are
already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a
dove--repeats figures in excess of 25000 for woulded/maimed/incapacitated.
Actually, as of 10 Aug 2005, the DoD
or just using different data, or more complete data, or representing it more
honestly. to suggest or imply dishonesty on the part of dod would hardly be a
stretch. this is the same dod that so incredibly (intentionally?) mishandled
the invasion/overthrow. the same dod that suppresses or
Aug 2005 19:57:35 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...Not necessarily.More like the big hand(s) of soybean interest(s) manipulating a set of controls to as best as possible "guarantee" that they get their research, testing and investment monies back. Forget that
, 09 Aug 2005 19:57:35 -0300
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Not necessarily.
More like the big hand(s) of soybean interest(s) manipulating a
set of
controls to as best as possible guarantee that they get their
research, testing and investment
About $4,000 for the testing - so it only makes sense if you have a very
large quantity of fuel.
The equipment to test it runs around $75,000, plus someone who knows how
to do it. Don't forget that you will owe federal and probably state tax
on anything that passes your fuel filler - even if
: Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...Tom,Government is business. But not necessarily or precisely going about the same business of any specific special interest businesses. More to the tune of going about the business of all business.How many times have you found yourself in the middle
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Not necessarily.
More like the big hand(s) of soybean interest(s
sheesh, this is so not true. we just recently had a thread along precisely
these lines.
it is extremely easy for an employer to terminate an employee. the employer
does not have as much lattitude with a unionized workforce, but even there it
is not nearly as hard to fire someone as is
Howdy Mike,
Mike Weaver wrote:
That's what a lot of people don't understand. If you haven't worked in
the Gov't it doesn't make much sense.
I think it makes sense, government service or not. It is simple self
preservation.
I was just telling someone that
the latest IRS IT fiasco is
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver
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That's what a lot of people don't understand. If you haven't worked in
the Gov't it doesn't make much sense. I was just telling
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That's what a lot of people don't understand. If you haven't worked
hat includes it).DB-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mike WeaverSent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:41 AMTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...That's what a lot of people don't understand. If you ha
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I have - or did. I finally quit
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That's what a lot of people don't
, 10 Aug 2005 07:56:03 -0300
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Tom,
Government is business. But not necessarily or precisely going
about the
same business of any specific special interest businesses. More to
the
tune of going about the business
?
Tom Irwin
From: Mike Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:46:44 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ASTM, was ... Diesel Won't Solve...Tom,Uh, hate to burst your bubble, but they already are: After two years of war in Iraq, the United States has
those are very conservative (not in the right-wing sense) numbers. there are
already close to 1800 killed, and even mcglaughlin--hardly a liberal or a
dove--repeats figures in excess of 25000 for woulded/maimed/incapacitated.
-chris b.
In a message dated 8/10/05 3:47:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Mike,
Can you (or others) expand on this please? How much of a fortune? I've
been searching for info on the tax and regulatory issues of producing
and selling BD on a small scale. I wouldn't mind joining or starting a
co-op, but cooperatively-minded folk are thin on the ground in South
to dumpster diving and making
fuel for your buddies.
Regards,
Ric Cuchetto
Northern california
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Hi All,
Do I detect the big hand of government squeezing the small business owner for corporate America here?
Tom
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for corporate America here?
Tom
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