Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
Dear Bob >Dear Keith- > >Wow! Just what I needed to hear. :-) That's good! We do try... >I've got a friend of mine pretty fired up about producing larger >quantities for his many gearhead friends and local farmers, in >larger quantities. Such as? >This guy makes his own hot rods, so I think, if I can get him the >right info, we will be totally able to get this baby to fly. Any >info on plans for larger-capacity, self-made systems. We don't do plans. Well, there's one excellent set of real genuine plans in the boiler, but not quite ready yet, though I can report that progress is being made. This is a great processor, complete design specs, complete blueprints that you can take to an engineering shop and say "Make it." The plans are finished but the text isn't. That's not our work, we can't do stuff like that, professional. That aside, I guess a reason we don't do plans is that everyone's needs are different, and so are their resources, especially when it comes to critically important stuff like junk. So what we have at our site is a variety of different models that can be followed and adapted according to what you want and what you've got. Whatever fits best and works well. Part of what I said before about empowerment. Anyway, you might have a look at this scheme of Todd's for an 833 Gallon Per Day Batch Plant: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor9.html I think all this stuff is easily scaleable. Or run more than one system in parallel, which is more or less what we do - one processor and one wash-tank, plus a holding tank and another wash-tank to double capacity. A lot of people do that, especially with wash-tanks. A holding tank and multiple wash-tanks can really increase production. It takes us five days to make a batch of biodiesel, from start to finish. We could do it quite a lot faster if we wanted to but we're comfortable with that. Using the full set-up we can increase that to 5-6 batches a week, and have done so for seven or eight weeks running. Very flexible. >This guy is serious, does not want to skimp, and wants to do it >right the first time. But he is counting on me to obtain the right >information. There are a lot of experienced folks here who'll be happy to help you. >Thank you so much for tempering your passion for this movement with >not-so-common sense! Oh, was it? Thankyou for saying so. I did get a little impatient, finally, and no, I don't regret it. About time, probably. Keep us posted Bob. One bit of good advice - don't bother your head too much about full-scale processors until you've made a few test batches and start to get a feel for the process. It's often said it's not something that lends itself well to theory. Some hands-on with the process itself will give you insights on processors that you probably wouldn't have had otherwise. Start here: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Bob Grunwald >8171 8 1/2 Avenue >Hanford, CA 93230 >559-583-9334 (home) >559-308-0947 (cell) > > - Original Message - > From: Keith Addison > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer > > > Hello Bob > > >Thanks for your speedy reply. > > > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
I'm getting ready to set up my own mixing operation. I will mix about 40 gal a day in NC. I bought a diesel Benz so I could do this it's an 87. Thomas thomas booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thank you for the last person on this email to end on a positive note. We all should keep very very positive for that we are all in this thing together. There should be no compitition only cooperation. Let's keep solution oriented. Thomas Vip Video Club <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I made a liter last week of biodiesel with an old blender,it was fun.now I'm building the 5 gallon processor wich it will be ready next weeknext it will be the 55 gallons processor and just reading from Keith Addison a learned all this and keep learningthere isn't such a best processor,the one you make it will be the best processor. Jorge - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Hello Bob >Thanks for your speedy reply. > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? > > >http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/default.asp :-/ Now how did I know you were going to say that? I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that Rudi Weidegger (who makes the odious FuelMeister) is good at marketing himself, if at little else, and so is Joshua. Re Joshua, here's part of a previous exchange about this: >>>>My question is, why is Joshua Tickell pimping for Rudi's FuelMeister >>>>joke? What is he getting out of it? >>>> >>>>Chris >>> >>>Good question - harsh word though, pimping. Maybe Joshua doesn't >>>know from processors. Previously he was hailing the Argentinian >>>processors as good news, and that they're not. >> >>You are right that "pimping" is quite harsh, and possibly the wrong word >>to use, > >:-) Others have been harsher. > >>but I have a problem with Joshua Tickell, who for many, seems to >>be the official spokesperson for the grassroots biodiesel movement > >There have been some harsh words about that too. > >>endorsing processor equipment that is way over priced and looks as >>though it could be ineffective at making quality biodiesel. As you >>stated he just might not really know from processors. And, I would >>question, does he care? > >Hm. I'm quite sure that Joshua cares about biodiesel, let's put it that way. > >>With all the processor designs on your web site, possibly a person who >>considers themselves incapable of plumbing together a processor could >>hire someone to do it for them (local plumber?), and still come out way, >>way, way cheaper than any pre-bought system. Yes indeed, much cheaper and much better. This cost about $100: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html It's WAY superior to any of these allegedly ready-to-use for-sale things. As for Rudi's junk, instead of improving the thing so it might get within spitting distance of doing even a half-assed job, he's now supplying add-ons instead, at a 400% markup, so it now costs $4,300 with an extra tank and a heater, which should be standard, not extra. You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. So what exactly is wrong with the thing? Quicker to ask what's right with it - nothing. But, please, do yourself a favour and spend some time reading through this stuff here, previous discussion on the FuelMeister: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=fuelmeister&time=6mont hs&usertime=2002-12-31 If that's all a bit much at first you can start with these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28752/ Re: Now here's a nice little joke http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/29808/ Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors (When you access the messages, if you hit on "Click here for more on this subject" you get a clickable table of the whole thread.) Nobody here has an axe to grind (except the guy who keeps saying "Why do you have a problem with the FuelMeister?" only it turns out he sells them). We'd all just love to see a good ready-made that did a good job at a reasonable price, but, as I said in the first place, there isn't such a thing, sad to say. So much for the "processor", but it turns out the "process" is as bad or worse - the instructions Rudi sends out with the FuelMeister not only ensure poor quality, they're dangerous: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/post.asp?method=Reply
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
Thank you for the last person on this email to end on a positive note. We all should keep very very positive for that we are all in this thing together. There should be no compitition only cooperation. Let's keep solution oriented. Thomas Vip Video Club <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I made a liter last week of biodiesel with an old blender,it was fun.now I'm building the 5 gallon processor wich it will be ready next weeknext it will be the 55 gallons processor and just reading from Keith Addison a learned all this and keep learningthere isn't such a best processor,the one you make it will be the best processor. Jorge - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Hello Bob >Thanks for your speedy reply. > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? > > >http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/default.asp :-/ Now how did I know you were going to say that? I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that Rudi Weidegger (who makes the odious FuelMeister) is good at marketing himself, if at little else, and so is Joshua. Re Joshua, here's part of a previous exchange about this: >>>>My question is, why is Joshua Tickell pimping for Rudi's FuelMeister >>>>joke? What is he getting out of it? >>>> >>>>Chris >>> >>>Good question - harsh word though, pimping. Maybe Joshua doesn't >>>know from processors. Previously he was hailing the Argentinian >>>processors as good news, and that they're not. >> >>You are right that "pimping" is quite harsh, and possibly the wrong word >>to use, > >:-) Others have been harsher. > >>but I have a problem with Joshua Tickell, who for many, seems to >>be the official spokesperson for the grassroots biodiesel movement > >There have been some harsh words about that too. > >>endorsing processor equipment that is way over priced and looks as >>though it could be ineffective at making quality biodiesel. As you >>stated he just might not really know from processors. And, I would >>question, does he care? > >Hm. I'm quite sure that Joshua cares about biodiesel, let's put it that way. > >>With all the processor designs on your web site, possibly a person who >>considers themselves incapable of plumbing together a processor could >>hire someone to do it for them (local plumber?), and still come out way, >>way, way cheaper than any pre-bought system. Yes indeed, much cheaper and much better. This cost about $100: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html It's WAY superior to any of these allegedly ready-to-use for-sale things. As for Rudi's junk, instead of improving the thing so it might get within spitting distance of doing even a half-assed job, he's now supplying add-ons instead, at a 400% markup, so it now costs $4,300 with an extra tank and a heater, which should be standard, not extra. You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. So what exactly is wrong with the thing? Quicker to ask what's right with it - nothing. But, please, do yourself a favour and spend some time reading through this stuff here, previous discussion on the FuelMeister: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=fuelmeister&time=6mont hs&usertime=2002-12-31 If that's all a bit much at first you can start with these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28752/ Re: Now here's a nice little joke http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/29808/ Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors (When you access the messages, if you hit on "Click here for more on this subject" you get a clickable table of the whole thread.) Nobody here has an axe to grind (except the guy who keeps saying "Why do you have a problem with the FuelMeister?" only it turns out he sells them). We'd all just love to see a good ready-made that did a good job at a reasonable price, but, as I said in the first place, there isn't such a thing, sad to say. So much for the "processor", but it turns out the "process" is as bad or worse - the instructions Rudi sends out with the FuelMeister not only ensure poor quality, they're dangerous: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=178 01&TOPIC_ID=2668&FORUM_ID=3 Originally posted by girl Mark >Obviously, the FuelMeister will cost you an extra $3,000-$4,000 for >a reactor made of some really cra
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
Dear Keith- Wow! Just what I needed to hear. I've got a friend of mine pretty fired up about producing larger quantities for his many gearhead friends and local farmers, in larger quantities. This guy makes his own hot rods, so I think, if I can get him the right info, we will be totally able to get this baby to fly. Any info on plans for larger-capacity, self-made systems. This guy is serious, does not want to skimp, and wants to do it right the first time. But he is counting on me to obtain the right information. Thank you so much for tempering your passion for this movement with not-so-common sense! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Grunwald 8171 8 1/2 Avenue Hanford, CA 93230 559-583-9334 (home) 559-308-0947 (cell) - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Hello Bob >Thanks for your speedy reply. > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
I made a liter last week of biodiesel with an old blender,it was fun.now I'm building the 5 gallon processor wich it will be ready next weeknext it will be the 55 gallons processor and just reading from Keith Addison a learned all this and keep learningthere isn't such a best processor,the one you make it will be the best processor. Jorge - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer Hello Bob >Thanks for your speedy reply. > >What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? > > >http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/default.asp :-/ Now how did I know you were going to say that? I suppose it might have something to do with the fact that Rudi Weidegger (who makes the odious FuelMeister) is good at marketing himself, if at little else, and so is Joshua. Re Joshua, here's part of a previous exchange about this: >>>>My question is, why is Joshua Tickell pimping for Rudi's FuelMeister >>>>joke? What is he getting out of it? >>>> >>>>Chris >>> >>>Good question - harsh word though, pimping. Maybe Joshua doesn't >>>know from processors. Previously he was hailing the Argentinian >>>processors as good news, and that they're not. >> >>You are right that "pimping" is quite harsh, and possibly the wrong word >>to use, > >:-) Others have been harsher. > >>but I have a problem with Joshua Tickell, who for many, seems to >>be the official spokesperson for the grassroots biodiesel movement > >There have been some harsh words about that too. > >>endorsing processor equipment that is way over priced and looks as >>though it could be ineffective at making quality biodiesel. As you >>stated he just might not really know from processors. And, I would >>question, does he care? > >Hm. I'm quite sure that Joshua cares about biodiesel, let's put it that way. > >>With all the processor designs on your web site, possibly a person who >>considers themselves incapable of plumbing together a processor could >>hire someone to do it for them (local plumber?), and still come out way, >>way, way cheaper than any pre-bought system. Yes indeed, much cheaper and much better. This cost about $100: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html It's WAY superior to any of these allegedly ready-to-use for-sale things. As for Rudi's junk, instead of improving the thing so it might get within spitting distance of doing even a half-assed job, he's now supplying add-ons instead, at a 400% markup, so it now costs $4,300 with an extra tank and a heater, which should be standard, not extra. You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. So what exactly is wrong with the thing? Quicker to ask what's right with it - nothing. But, please, do yourself a favour and spend some time reading through this stuff here, previous discussion on the FuelMeister: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/?keywords=fuelmeister&time=6mont hs&usertime=2002-12-31 If that's all a bit much at first you can start with these: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28752/ Re: Now here's a nice little joke http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/29808/ Re: Off-the-Shelf Processors (When you access the messages, if you hit on "Click here for more on this subject" you get a clickable table of the whole thread.) Nobody here has an axe to grind (except the guy who keeps saying "Why do you have a problem with the FuelMeister?" only it turns out he sells them). We'd all just love to see a good ready-made that did a good job at a reasonable price, but, as I said in the first place, there isn't such a thing, sad to say. So much for the "processor", but it turns out the "process" is as bad or worse - the instructions Rudi sends out with the FuelMeister not only ensure poor quality, they're dangerous: http://forums.biodieselnow.com/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=178 01&TOPIC_ID=2668&FORUM_ID=3 Originally posted by girl Mark >Obviously, the FuelMeister will cost you an extra $3,000-$4,000 for >a reactor made of some really crappy materials, and if you were to >follow their instructons you'd make an inferior product instead of >'biodiesel' (there's no way to make ASTM-grade biodiesel following >their instructions, they've brought back the Dark Ages of methanol
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rocess of learning it on their own, most of their >customers won't know the hazards or shortcomings of the processes >they're buying... > >by the way there's no filter for methanol that you can buy, and the >fact that the FuelMeister claims that they have one in their reactor >is an absolute travesty. > >Mark And now for the good news? Not yet, more bad news first - you seem to value Joshua's judgment. It's kind of telling that Joshua now endorses Rudi's processor. I got a letter from him explaining why, and I'm afraid it rather confirms the widespread doubts and questions at the time. Well, to each his own... only that's not the case here, both of them claim to be leading the way, but the direction's all wrong. Joshua's book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank, is four years out of date and a lot of it's plain wrong anyway. There's been conjecture over where he got his information from, and some good guesses, but whatever, it's drawn from a very narrow knowledge base, and omits all the work and new findings of the last four years, which have seen tremendous developments in small-scale biodiesel technology. And safety. You're much better off here and at Journey to Forever, though I say it myself (we run Journey to Forever). I don't mind saying it myself: the biodiesel information at Journey to Forever is up-to-date, it's not just our own work (though there's a lot of that), it's also a compilation and distillation of the work, discoveries, investigations and discussions of thousands of people on this list over the last four years, and of work done elsewhere. Using those resources as your foundation, this list for guidance, and its huge archives for further reference, you really can't go wrong. Please see this previous message about Joshua: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/31729/ I must say I'm getting more than a little fed up with these guys who not only jump on the biodiesel bandwagon but try to hijack it for the own benefit and aggrandizement. Yeah, Chris and others I've chided for being perhaps a little harsh, I apologise, I take it all back. A self-promoter pimping for a charlatan would seem to be about right. They're a waste of time, and worse. There are those who feel Joshua held back the homebrew biodiesel movement for years, Rudi's doing the same, and now they're in it together. I won't argue with that. So, now, finally, the good news? Sure... You don't need the likes of Rudi and Joshua and their iffy offerings. You've come to the right place, you'll find everything you need right here, willingly given, free of charge, good information, good advice, and help and assistance from experienced biodieselers when you need it. But you're not a mechanic (plumber, engineer, chemist, handy person), you can't build your own processor? One of the most important aspects of DIY biofuels is that it's a very empowering thing to discover that you don't have to be Exxon-Mobil to make your own fuel, and not only that, yours is better than theirs. Same with building a processor - if you try, you might just surprise yourself, and wouldn't that'd be a GREAT feeling? Our modern societies have been grievously deskilled, we're not nearly as capable or competent as our grandfathers were. Or so we think, until we try. There are plenty of people here who'll be happy to help you, you won't be the first. (We're not engineers either, we're journalists - if we can do it, so can you.) Best wishes Keith >Thank you! > > - Original Message - > From: Keith Addison > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:01 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer > > > >Hello Bob, welcome > > > >There isn't such a thing, none of them is recommended - check the > >list archives. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
Depending on the amount you plan on making, according to your needs, here are 2 somewhat smaller systems. http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/products.asp - Original Message - From: "grunwald" <> To: Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 12:03 AM Subject: [biofuel] Best Processer > What are now considered to be the best-made, commercially available, biodiesel processors on the market at this time, for personal, non-commercial use? How do they compare to one another, and how much do they cost. Please supply links to these companies, if possible. Thank you! > > Bob Grunwald, Certified Arborist > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 559-583-9334 (home) > 559-308-0947 (cell) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Thanks for your speedy reply. What about Biodiesel Solutions, which is endorsed by Joshua Tickell? http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/default.asp Thank you! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Best Processer >Hello Bob, welcome >There isn't such a thing, none of them is recommended - check the >list archives. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hello Bob, welcome >What are now considered to be the best-made, commercially available, >biodiesel processors on the market at this time, for personal, >non-commercial use? There isn't such a thing, none of them is recommended - check the list archives. These are professional, but probably exceed your requirements: Biofuel Systems provides state-of-the-art biodiesel process equipment which meets all recognised international safety standards (eg. ATEX) and will produce biodiesel from a range of feedstocks to meet recognised standards, including ASTM 6751-03, EN 14214:2003, DIN V 51606. Currently offers systems from 900 litres per week upwards. Available in Europe through Eurobiodiesel Ltd (http://www.eurobiodiesel.com), in Australasia through New Zealand Biofuels Limited, and in the rest of world direct from Biofuel Systems, 58 Church Street, Ormskirk, Lancashire, ENGLAND L39 3AW. Fax: +44 1695 571222 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://biofuelsystems.com I'm not sure they still do the 900-litre per week model, the minimum is more than that. Otherwise make your own: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors: Journey to Forever Best wishes Keith >How do they compare to one another, and how much do they cost. >Please supply links to these companies, if possible. Thank you! > >Bob Grunwald, Certified Arborist >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >559-583-9334 (home) >559-308-0947 (cell) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM ~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
