Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread Legal Eagle
for the choices you make, no one else. Luc - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge Robert, Robert Luis Rabello wrote: Who

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Keith, I used the words of the same author that Bob Allen and Hakan used to have their say with me! Gosh, I guess that it can get out of hand so quickly! I wasn't demeaning the list but, it seems to me that you and several others have taken great offense. Just as I had by Mr. Guttridge's

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Luc ; there are a few other details though that I can't let fly, but they are not indemic to Christianity (homophobia and other forms of intolerance are an example) What amazes me is how intolerant the people preaching tolerance are to anyone who is intolerant. Best Regards,

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread Hakan Falk
Ooops, Peter, This is a circular argument in, as many says i US, a Catch 22 situation. LOL Hakan At 03:08 AM 2/4/2005, you wrote: Hi Luc ; there are a few other details though that I can't let fly, but they are not indemic to Christianity (homophobia and other forms of intolerance are

Re: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread Appal Energy
Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States of America Etc ? Nobody runs me down. I believe Jesus IS God,

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Robert, This is interesting. I think that this is what really gets me about Christianity in general is the feeling that I am being pushed to repent for something that I do not believe to be sinful. as you point out here it is often the case that I am not being pushed into anything. I

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread bob allen
for beliefs other than your own might be in order.Or, should others treat you the way you treat them? Luc - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread robert luis rabello
And Howdy to you too Luc, Actually I feel my position is much more respectful than a lot of the theists out there. You aren't outright rude, but respectful is not a word I would use to characterize your posts. If a person wants to believe in the supernatural that is his or her

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
perspective? Or at least an animist or two? For one thing: The term Voodoo (Vodun in Benin; also Vodou or other phonetically equivalent spellings in Haiti; Vudu in the Dominican Republic) is applied to the branches of a West African ancestor-based religious tradition with primary roots among

Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States of America Etc ? When I arrived here I was under the auspice that I was

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread John Guttridge
Robert Luis Rabello wrote: Who is trying to proselytize you, sir? I've not read a single message in this forum urging you to repent of your sins, or repudiate your atheism. Perhaps that's what you believe we're trying to do; further illustrating my point that reality absolutely

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hmm... Keith, I'm sorry to see that you take my response using jk gasbag at his word ! You said it. I'm just wondering if you in turn have written to others about the continued rundown of anyone who has a basic belief in GOD JESUS, United States of America Etc ? Huh? What are you

Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Kim, This list has members from over 100 countries, as Keith often like to point out. It probably also have members from at least 3 basic religions and numerous variations of them. The only ones who repeatedly involve as superior credentials their country and Christianity as some superior

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-02 Thread Legal Eagle
: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge I was going to comment on this earlier. Maybe better never than late. Maybe not. Hypocrisy is not the birthright, political

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-02 Thread Legal Eagle
: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I might think it, but I leave that to GOD THE CREATOR ! you are presupposing that I give a tinker's dam about your belief in voodoo. I don't

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-02 Thread Appal Energy
on a bumper sticker... Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge G'day Todd; Nice to see you are well. What has been most

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread Lyn Gerry
Hi All, 'Scuse me for the post below. I've been lurking for a while and never expected my first post on the biofuel list to be on the topic of a woman's control over her physical sovereignty, but... Speaking from personal experience, deciding to have an abortion was not a difficult decision,

Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mr. Guttridge, Thanks for the reply ! Your statement seemed pretty inclusive of the right to lifers Just like my statement about those desiring abortions should've read THAT IF ALL OF THE ABORTION ADVOCATES HAD MOTHERS THAT HAD ABORTED THEM THAN THE ABORTION ISSUE WOULD BE VERY MOOT, now if

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread bob allen
snip I might think it, but I leave that to GOD THE CREATOR ! you are presupposing that I give a tinker's dam about your belief in voodoo. I don't and therefore your message is wasted on me.

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread Hakan Falk
Bob, Since we many times enjoyed the freedom of discussion, I guess that we have to accept this kind of voodoo also. I had the same reaction to this, but it was too brutal. Thanks that you so elegantly expressed my opinion also and made it possible to only agree with what you are saying.

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bob Hakan, Much literary criticism comes from people for whom extreme specialization is a cover for either grave cerebal inadequacy or terminal laziness, the latter being a much cherished aspect of academic freedom. JKG Thanks for your reply, Kim - Original Message Follows - Bob,

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread Keith Addison
whom extreme specialization is a cover for either grave cerebal inadequacy or terminal laziness, the latter being a much cherished aspect of academic freedom. JKG Thanks for your reply, Kim What's that supposed to mean, Kim? There is freedom of discussion at this list, it's something that

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread Hakan Falk
Kim, I take your word for it, nothing is better than when it comes from the horses mouth. Hakan At 07:39 PM 2/1/2005, you wrote: Bob Hakan, Much literary criticism comes from people for whom extreme specialization is a cover for either grave cerebal inadequacy or terminal laziness, the

Re: Fwd: Re [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-02-01 Thread Michael Redler
Whatever the reason, Many of those who practice extreme specialization in literary criticism are catalysts for social discourse and helps us transcend a society and culture which we might someday call archaic. There is, at least, some value in everyone's opinion. To think otherwise, implies

Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm so sorry to see that the deceit has come here to this forum, about bush's stand on RIGHT TO LIFE ! He and most of the staff are the worst kind of deceivers ! They DON'T respect life, unless it's their own, and even that is a joke since they really don't know what they have given their

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-01-31 Thread John Guttridge
No large inclusive statement was intended to be made about right to lifers in general I was pointing out that he claims to be the champion of the life of an unborn child and yet seems to be the champion of poisoning unborn children. I never meant that all right to lifers were in favor of

Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket FuelJohn Guttridge

2005-01-31 Thread Appal Energy
Todd Swearingen The end of the human race will be that we eventually die of civilization. Ralph Waldo Emerson - Original Message - From: John Guttridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Biofuel] Let Them Eat Rocket