Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Jure
The remainings of NaOH could have reacted with H2SO4 in the presence of water and you got salt. On the other handthis salt is water soluble... Just a guess, maybe someone else would know better... Regards, Jure - Original Message - From: Gregory Petit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Gregory Petit
Op zondag 23 januari 2005 18:13, schreef Gregory Petit: [...] Another thing: I took the pH of those white flakes from my 1st wash and that seems to be 1,03. It seems that my 1st washing water was too acid, but should this affect the washing? AFAIK the extra H+ and (SO4)2- will be drained of

[Biofuel] Genetic engineering and ethanol

2005-01-24 Thread Dave Shaw
Hello, From Vandana Shiva's Biopiracy, 1997: At the 1994 annual meeting of the Ecological Society of America, researchers from Oregon State University reported on tests to evaluate a genetically engineered bacterium designed to convert crop waste into ethanol. A typical root zone-inhabiting

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Andrew Cunningham
solar - no atmosphere to weaken the sun's rays. Andy On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 14:04:16 -0800 (PST), Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC What is

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
Do you think solar power at Moonshine City could be economically beamed to Earth? POC On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Martin K wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Party of Citizens wrote: Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC What

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Andrew Cunningham
I have no idea what you are talking about? Are you looking to collect power on the moon and use it on earth or collect power on the moon for use one the moon? Andy On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:20:04 -0800 (PST), Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think solar power at Moonshine City

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: Gregory Petit [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing snip so I'll stop this test and try a new batch, using vinegar :-) /snip Why use anything at all other than the water

[Biofuel] 1st Test Batch

2005-01-24 Thread Trevor Churney
Hello all, I am hoping that you can maybe help explain what is going on to me. Thiss my first batch with WVO. I only got a 500ml batch but I will explan the steps I took. I took the titration (phenophalene) and cameut with 0.3ml of the 1% NaOH/Distilled water mixture. So I

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Appal Energy
By the looks of it, you're shooting blind. If you feel that adding a dilute acid is necessary for any particular reason, always conduct side-by-side sampling with a straight water wash from the same batch. In fact, it wouldn't hurt to run comparison samples using different weak acids. As

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
Since wind and water power are out, what would this list recommend for Moonshine City, post-2015? POC What is Moonshine City, and why are wind and water power out? The base/colony President Bush wants built on the Moon post-2015. Z Uh-huh. Practically, in view of the Bush

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-24 Thread aleksander . kac
snip Aleks said this in a message a few months ago: Opel in his new DI engines forbidds use of bio in any form. New VW models do not tolerate biodiesel also (any form, not even B5) in someengines. We have had a LC Toyota (100 series) with a totally broken IP after only6.000 km on neat bio

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread fox mulder
--- Gregory Petit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, now I'm trying to wash my biodiesel. I'll mention the steps, because I think I did something wrong :) Ok, the pH of the unwashed biodiesel was 12,12. I took 99ml of water and I added 1ml of 96% pure H2SO4. I added this to the biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] 2nd batch: looks better, but still some questions

2005-01-24 Thread aleksander . kac
Hakan, I am confused, in front of me I have the sales literature and specs of VW Lupo 3L in Spanish. It is clearly stated that the VW Lupo 3L is RME compatible clean or in any mix and that is biodiesel on Rape seed. I do not have the latest literature for other VW models, but have a

Re: [Biofuel] 1st Test Batch

2005-01-24 Thread Legal Eagle
Nice thing about doing only 500ml test batches is that there is very little room for error, being such a small amount. It seems to me that a titration for WVO at 0.3ml is a little low. This would place the waste oil at near brand new. Did you do the quality test ?

[Biofuel] The 10 Worst Corporations of 2004

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.multinationalmonitor.org/mm2004/122004/mokhiber.html The Ten Worst Corporations of 2004 Multinational Monitor December 2004 - VOLUME 25 - NUMBER 12 --- Mon, 24 Jan 2005 The 10 Worst Corporations of 2004 By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman When the Multinational

[Biofuel] Sprawl Busters

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
Sprawl Busters An International Clearinghouse on Big Box Anti-Sprawl Information No matter what the logo on the building says--Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Target, Lowe's, Kohls, CVS--if its unwanted development, Sprawl-Busters can help you stop it. In hundreds of communities, we have helped

Re: [Biofuel] Genetic engineering and ethanol

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
I thought that this may interest somebody out there. I found it pertinent to my ongoing study of agribusiness and genetic engineering as they relate to biofuel. The Klebsiella planticola nightmare is reffed here: And here's one that went wrong, and could have gone horribly wrong:

Re: [Biofuel] next step...washing

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
from Gregory? You said this: Ok, the pH of the unwashed biodiesel was 12,12. This is with virgin rapeseed oil? pH 12 is too high. In your previous message you said: now I used the correct amount of NaOH and my 2nd batch seems to be much better :-) Why not tell us the whole story? How

re: [Biofuel] The 10 Worst Corporations of 2004

2005-01-24 Thread DHAJOGLO
Hardee's: The fast-food maker is bragging about how unhealthy is its latest culinary invention, the Monster Thickburger: I must protest to this one. While Hardee's is indeed pushing food porn, they make no claim that the food is healthy. It seems subway is the evil one here implying that you

re: [Biofuel] The 10 Worst Corporations of 2004

2005-01-24 Thread Keith Addison
latest culinary invention, the Monster Thickburger: I must protest to this one. While Hardee's is indeed pushing food porn, they make no claim that the food is healthy. That's part of the point. Since you were going to protest, maybe you should have checked the full version first. It

RE: [Biofuel] GM Cotton that People Forgot

2005-01-24 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Keith. I do like this kind of updates on cotton technology. I have forwarded the links to some friends of mine so they can translate to Spanish using Google translator funtion. Here, as far as I know, we not not using this tipe of seeds and I take as a warning agains GM Cotton, there are

[Biofuel] Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread Kim Garth Travis
My husbands company has decided to make all the field personal wear flame resistant uniforms. It is extremely rare for there to be a fire on location, but some customer has decided to make this another hoop for the company to jump thorugh. [I am a little perturbed.] I am having trouble

re: [Biofuel] The 10 Worst Corporations of 2004

2005-01-24 Thread DHAJOGLO
Because Hardee's makes no pretensions that the Hardee's thickburger is good for you. And they are reveling in the publicity from Jacobson's group, Leno and Letterman. Jacobson says that if Hardee's persists in marketing this junk, it should at least list calories right up on the menu board. I

re: [Biofuel] Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread DHAJOGLO
Greetings, My husbands company has decided to make all the field personal wear flame resistant uniforms. It is extremely rare for there to be a fire on location, but some customer has decided to make this another hoop for the company to jump thorugh. [I am a little perturbed.] Your best bet

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
Collect power at Moonshine and use it locally; the Moonshiners (aka Lunatics) will sell the surplus to Earthlings. POC I have no idea what you are talking about? Are you looking to collect power on the moon and use it on earth or collect power on the moon for use one the moon? Andy On

Re: [Biofuel] Sprawl Busters

2005-01-24 Thread Anti-Fossil
Awesome links! Just what I've been trying to findthanks Keith. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama

Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Anti-Fossil
I'll take some of that surplus, strictly for medicinal purposes of course... AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama

re: [Biofuel] Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread Kim Garth Travis
How does one do so without getting the husband in trouble? Politics are a problem. Bright Blessings, Kim At 10:58 AM 1/24/2005, you wrote: Greetings, My husbands company has decided to make all the field personal wear flame resistant uniforms. It is extremely rare for there to be a fire

Re: [Biofuel] Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Kim, This is not the final answer but hopes this helps: My buddies and I worked as fire supression support personnel for the US Forest Service. For our clothing, Nomex and Proban were the two dominate treatments for clothing. We always wore protective clothing under the fire retardant

[Biofuel] Message from POC Mosquito

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
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Re: [Biofuel] Power for Moonshine City

2005-01-24 Thread Party of Citizens
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Anti-Fossil wrote: * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Ahhh Grasshopper ... this is

RE: [Biofuel] Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread Tim Ferguson
Kim There is a right to know law that requires all companies to make available the MSDS sheets on al chemicals used by and in the company. All he needs to do is to request to see or get a copy of the MSDS sheet from the Safety officer are responsible party. Failure for the company to produce

RE: [Biofuel] MSDS - Was Indura fabric

2005-01-24 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Tim and Kim ; Once I was at the counter buying some chemicals from a supplier and I heard the clerk arguing over the phone with a customer that they didn't have an MSDS for that product. When she was off the phone, I asked her what was the problem. She said the customer was demanding an