Re: [Biofuel] - Solar Hot Water Heater

2005-09-27 Thread Stanley baer
Hi I have been following this thread. My plan for the heat exchange between the solar collector and the potable hot water system is to modify a discarded gas fired Polaris hotwater heater. The tank of this hotwater heater is made of stainless. I have pulled out all the gas burner guts out

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-05 Thread Kirk McLoren
From a related yet different perspective, do I introduce any trouble by burningmy wood burning fireplace insert?://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Your insert with a fan is probably 300% more efficient than a fireplace. That means instead of 98% of the heating value of the

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-05 Thread Ken Dunn
I know its not much better but, I believe our insert is rated at 40% efficiency. We plan to move to a more efficient catalytic wood burning insert as soon as we can swing the finances. Vermont Castings claims 78% efficiency of one of their models. Kirk wrote: Your insert with a fan is

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Ken Dunn wrote: 7. What is the group's collective experience? I have radiant hot water heat in my house and I'm happy enough with the system to say that I don't wish to live WITHOUT radiant heat in the future. It's probably colder where you live during the winter than it is here

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
As a rule of thumb a dollar of insulation buys more BTUs than a dollar of collector. This is probably true until you pass R50 for the roof/ceiling and R40 for the walls. Moveable insulation is much cheaper than hitek windows but only you know if you will be diligent in its use.

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread Ken Dunn
On 9/4/05, *robert luis rabello* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do this, however, you'll want to install grommets in the floor joists. We didn't, so whenever the boiler fires up, the plastic pipes tap against the joists. It sounds like a myriad of golf

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread Ken Dunn
On 9/4/05, *Kirk McLoren* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a rule of thumb a dollar of insulation buys more BTUs than a dollar of collector. This is probably true until you pass R50 for the roof/ceiling and R40 for the walls. I couldn't agree more. I'd like

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread robert luis rabello
Ken Dunn wrote: Is there a specific type of material or will any old grommet do? Neoprene rubber is the recommended material. (Plumbing complexity) This is something that I've been trying to figure out for a while. I was way over complicating the design in my head. As long as I

Re: [Biofuel] Solar Hot Water and Radiant Heat

2005-09-04 Thread S. Chapin
robert luis rabello wrote: Ken Dunn wrote: Is there a specific type of material or will any old grommet do? Neoprene rubber is the recommended material. (Plumbing complexity) This is something that I've been trying to figure out for a while. I was way over complicating

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-16 Thread Keith Addison
now. The article has changed slightly, the one I had starts of page 2 of this one, I think it's the same, or at least it's the same as my download, which is quite old. 14 pages. You must have missed the first page (default.htm). The schematic is on page 6:

Methane was Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-16 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Now for the rest of the system. Since we can have some real cloudy periods, [I haven't seen the sun for 5 days now] I need an on demand hot water heater to back up my solar. For now I need to run it on propane, but I definitely want to install my methane digester to run it in the future.

Re: Methane was Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water w/follow up question

2004-11-16 Thread Michael Redler
Kim is asking a question to which I've also been trying to get answers. I'd also like to attach a follow up question. Has anyone been looking into heliostats as a way of channeling/concentrating solar energy for applications like the one Kim is asking about? That is to say, the solar energy

Re: Methane was Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water w/follow up question

2004-11-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
Solar Power Heliostat Arrays. http://www.redrok.com/main.htm --- Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim is asking a question to which I've also been trying to get answers. I'd also like to attach a follow up question. Has anyone been looking into heliostats as a way of

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Legal Eagle
interesting. Even I could probably figure it out :) http://www.geocities.com/solarliving/Homewater/Homewater.html Luc - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: [Biofuel] solar hot water

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Keith Addison
Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I really liked a webconx is gone. What was the url Kim? Probably I

RE: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Mel Riser
Are you going to make it yourself or buy it? I just finished setting up some solar heater boxes that have solar panels on top. The idea is to let the water take the heat away from the panels underneath and give hot water as well as electricity. Now I just have to finish wiring the solar

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Legal Eagle
http://www.green-trust.org/main.htm new URL for webconx.com Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
Building your own? Kirk --- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Kim Garth Travis
This is the url I have, it is from May of 2001. I had downloaded the article, but that computer crashed and lost it. I am learning that sometimes hard copy is a good idea. Bright Blessings, Kim http://www.webconx.com/2000/solar/solar.htmhttp://www.webconx.com/2000/solar/solar.htm What

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Kim Garth Travis
BB, Kim At 10:29 AM 11/15/2004, you wrote: Building your own? Kirk --- Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died.

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread damiandolan
Hi Kim, One I use a lot is www.thermomax.com evacuated tubes, other than that www.primosa.at flat plate collectors with good price and value for money, dD _ Sign up for eircom broadband now and get a free two month trial.*

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Kim Garth Travis
, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water Greetings, Well I had planned on working on my farm first, then doing my biofuels next. First I have an argument with the power company and now, my hot water heater died. Does anyone have a favorite solar hot water site? The one I

Re: [Biofuel] solar hot water

2004-11-15 Thread Keith Addison
/2004, you wrote: It really is a case of ask and ye shall receive :) http://www.green-trust.org/main.htm new URL for webconx.com Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar hot