Andreas,
the last demo is really amazing. The swine table implementation is
my favorite!
Still, there's one question left:
Does the appreciated promotion of open-standard technologies justify
to win someone over to bullshit-engineering?
Please don't take this question for condemnation. As I
I got complaints about spreading FUD that Adobe SVG Viewer would not
work in MS Internet Explorer 7. Clearly, that is wrong.
I did not state anything by that manner of means.
Beyond dispute ripping matters out of context is in bad style anyway.
NB: 'IE7b' refers to a non public BETA release
Hi Doug
It's always enough if you're modest;)
Your *enough* was a decent one, thanks. Your advice about the
purpose of this group is recognized.
It seems like some people are looking for some clues about the
realistic potential of the technology as well. At least if you want
to do more than
:
welkerpaul schrieb:
Holger,
I do appreciate your efforts in sharing your knowledge and
moderating this newsgroup very much.
thanks :-)
Nevertheless your response to
the very much vital questions concerning svgs future is not
sufficient, nor acceptable in that manner
Aye, looks like svg is an excellent niche for blockheaded idealists?
Since Rick did call for a *well executed*, *positively spun*
campaign, he's reasonably up in the air..
A penny for Omar's thoughts.
Beyond it, let's hope for an avalon based svg implementation in ie8?
--- In
the same.
--Bart
On 7/19/05, welkerpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bart and Holger,
in order to talk asv3 into realizing stylesheet modifications
you'll
have to repace the entire stylesheet. At least that's how I did
it
back then. Admittedly this solution is dead slow. Well, it's
faster
Bart and Holger,
in order to talk asv3 into realizing stylesheet modifications you'll
have to repace the entire stylesheet. At least that's how I did it
back then. Admittedly this solution is dead slow. Well, it's faster
than walking the dom, that's something at least.
Here's your code (that
The document within the svg context is the SVGDocument object. Not
that I am aware of a SVGDocument cookie property..
The browser's cookie string should be available with the help of
window.parent.document.cookie for svg code.
hth
Paul
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erwan TROEL [EMAIL
:
window.parent has no properties
- Original Message -
From: welkerpaul
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 1:50 PM
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: cookie
The document within the svg context is the SVGDocument object.
Not
that I am
use
window.setSource()
- Original Message -
From: welkerpaul
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: cookie
There you are. The whole of svg-dhtml X-Dom scripting is just
pathological for the time
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm with DL on his suggestion below:)
I've included a couple of example files that can give you some
good
hints on cross frame communication.. I've used Iframes. Give them
a
try and we can talk from that
Richard,
did you ask this global company why they've dropped their own svg
investments long time ago?
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Richard Gnyla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Francis Hemsher wrote:
Hi Ricard,
As a long-time web developer, trying to make cross-browser stuff
work,
Dear Sir or Madam,
please feel welcome to indefinite land of svg, thank you very much
for joining.
Unfortunately we cannot serve your request straightaway. Please
provide us with the following details of the undermentioned player
you are developing in order to process your request: Player
Raghu,
you ran into a well know asv limitation concerning 'tiny' arcs and
ellipses. Andrew is right if he points at your most inappropriate
coordinate representation.
Subjects among others to consider:
-overall coordinates range should get closer to your viewbox range.
Employ a sort of smart
@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Hannes Fleischer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Hannes,
up front, I feel sorry for you adding the following comment to
your
post. I got strong counters from Alastair concerning a similar
topic
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Francis Hemsher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adobe has been both the blessing and a curse to SVG. Without the
Adobe
SVG Viewer, SVG would not have had the opportunity to get started.
Initially their efforts were focused exclusively on SVG. In the
recent
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Michael Bolger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Francis Hemsher wrote:
conflicting interests, via Flash, that will further dilute the
future
Adobe being a complex multi-faceted organization and all,
now would be a good time for us to help encourage the use
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Hannes Fleischer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Hannes,
up front, I feel sorry for you adding the following comment to your
post. I got strong counters from Alastair concerning a similar
topic, so please don't feel hold cheap if people's thoughts differ
on
Jeroen,
if the applet's navigator fails (didn't test) you could fall back on
the browsers navigator:
-ie: a ... xlink:href=javascript:parent.window.navigate
('SVGTest.html#35;MyJump') xlink:show=...,
-dom: ... xlink:href=javascript:void
(parent.window.location.href='SVGTest.html#35;MyJump') ...
Between you and me, isn't it ridiculous to make use of svg and lots
of code spoofing windows and common controls§:=(..
We've already seen table implementations in svg|-(
Rich, I'd take the view that you might be better off employing the
embed element's scrollbar (nice and windowless ctrl).
Rick,
flog a subject to death? Just for the record, you can edit the
elm/group/etc. ID of any element in Visio. ElmIDs will survive
roundtripping as well. The 'selection' behavior is pretty obvious!?!
(Don't select nothing and you'll get a complete export as well:-)
The custom properties
Yes;-) Ehm, and I did forget to mention that Mozilla started to
check in canvas/ element support. Very interesting and handy
dashboard technology as well.
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Rick Bullotta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I did forget to mention we also have Flex-based dashboards in
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Bullotta wrote:
Interesting press release.
http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.epx?PressID=4519
Flash ? SAP ?? this is an SVG forum, right ?
could you explain how this relates to SVG ?
regards
Holger
Jacky,
in ASV you'll put 'Copy SVG'(contextmenu) into action...
(Windows ClipBook viewer (/system32/clipbrd.exe) will show the
bmp/txt results;-)
hth
Paul
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Ronan O'Driscoll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Jacky,
You could try:
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Robin Berjon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andreas Neumann wrote:
my guess is that it changes nothing. Adobe is such a big
company -
they will push both technologies. It will be competition between
Flash and SVG within one company ... If they are
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Don Demsak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This news goes to show how scared Adobe is of Microsoft's Avalon
and
XAML. There was always in fighting between the PDF people and the
SVG
people within Adobe, and now adding Flash (who seem to always be
fighting
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I've been trying to get ASV6 to work for my event handling but
there
appears to be some problem with their Window object.
I have HTML-SVG communication going on. So, when the SVG
ECMAscript tries
to access the
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Jonathan,
IMOSHO your know-it-all attitude isn't accurate this time;-)
AFAIUI svg onload=init(evt) cannot work if evt isn't a global
attribute.
AAMOF, if there's no event, there's no evt object (window.evt
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, callyourshiva
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
When i run my SVG (.svg file) in my browser it's running
fine.
when i load the same file on to Citrix machine and some other
machines
it's giving an Jscript error:evt is undefined.Please
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Watt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 4/15/05, callyourshiva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
When i run my SVG (.svg file) in my browser it's running
fine.
when i load the same file on to Citrix machine and some other
Hi!
Maybe you want to change the svg ctrl's size? A sample that's
supposed to do this reads as follows:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
?AdobeSVGViewer resolution=1200 save=snapshot?
svg id=tstSVG viewBox= 0 0 1000 1000
preserveAspectRatio= xMidYMid meet
svgobj = document.embeds(FP).getSVGDocument()
Thanks again for your help, but can you clear this up for me?!?
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This tread confused me;-)
I guess part of the muddle is that window isn't window and
document
Just curious, what's the use of setting width/height for the svg to
window.innerXYZ? You can omit width and height for the svg and it
will size to window.innerWidth and window.innerHeight since '100%' is
the default value. It won't help for printouts either?
--- In
into a Script Debugger, it says window.document.embeds
('FP').window is undefined, therefore getDocument of course doesn't
exist.
Thoughts?
No. Maybe there's no such embed object with id/name='FP'? The Script
Debugger should be able to tell.
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
-developers@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
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wrote:
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, riverside6
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, both the 2nd and 3rd
lines
in
your code give me the Unspecified Error as well. The 1st line
pops
If you actually filed 'd:\ex.svg' it might snap
at 'file://d:/ex.svg' or 'd:\\ex.svg' 'file://...'. (beware of
escape sequences;-)
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Peto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
An example is always best. Maybe you could provide a URL?
Mit freundlichen
@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Paul,
just ideas to check:
-make sure you've access to the object who's open method you're
calling. If you're after the browsers window (`top'.open()), you
should walk like `this.parent' if calling within svg. (check
Hello Burkhard,
if you're looking for comments or assessment, a short description
what's it all about would be expedient ;-).
Hmm, I cannot find no graphs. There are tables and form widgets
whilst no compelling svg logic? Why do you think svg does a better
job than dhtml, iframes, divs, etc.
Cor,
you name it.
I was waiting for Mr. Ferraiolo to speak up. Hence, just some spots:
-Microsoft and others (including Autodesk!) submitted vml to w3c in
early 1998
-Adobe and Others (including IBM, Sun) submitted pgml to w3c a few
weeks later
-MS had a native browser implementation ready
2 more cents.
Misha is 100% correct.
For ie the static gifs are backdrop and vml encodes the custom
content info. My crowd has done lots of svg work in the past (for
*profit* orgs!) + sure I've proven to typify a svg advocate.
That's
just it why I think this tread matters. Doug, thousand
Message-
From: welkerpaul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:39 PM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: adroit maps.google.com/maps
2 more cents.
Misha is 100% correct.
For ie the static gifs are backdrop and vml
to connect to the Visual Studio,
Eclipse, or MS Windows Script debuggers by modifying the registry
somehow and by using the 'debugger;' command within my Javascript
code. Does anyone know how to do this?
Jan
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, welkerpaul
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote
No bash, just an encouragement for the ambitious svg gis mapper:
Google maps ( maps.google.com/maps ) is quite impressive!?
Of course they don't use svg.
But- GOOGLE PUTS VML on the stove:-O
You bet it's going to be no svg but xaml sooner or later...
Regards
Paul
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Andreas,
you'll need IE5.5+ to get vml.
This app is crazy fast with little effort within ie. Sug: the little
gifs are ready on server + iexplorer gives them the ability to
present this glossy responsive ui. (DirectX image processing , vml
graphing, info bubble, etcpp., with transparency
will it make the
rendering even
more fast ???.
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welkerpaul [EMAIL
You're right,
the asv rendering engine is dead slow. Try to lower demands on
viewer:
-set xxx-rendering=optimizeSpeed, at least shape-
rendering=crispEdges (probably you'll know already;-)
-asv antialiasing is very expensive, set defaultAntialias=false,
or use
Rolf,
you may look at
http://www.jenitennison.com/xslt/utilities/svg-utils.xml
Cheers
Paul
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, rwkemper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear All,
I'm using ASV3 with IE6
I have done a style sheet and an xml. The xml file consits of the
usal instruction to
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