Re: [SWCollect] Once and Future

2003-02-02 Thread C.E. Forman
You might post to r.*.i-f and see if anyone there is willing to part with
their boxed copy.  The game itself is freeware now.  I have seen them on
eBay before (that's how I got the spare I once had), so you can always keep
trying there.

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From: Stuart Feldhamer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Once and Future


 I tried that already. Unfortunately, he told me that all remaining stock
was
 destroyed several years ago. :(

 Stuart

 -Original Message-
 From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Once and Future


 Try contacting the author, a Gerry Kevin Wilson.  He probably still hangs
 out on the r.*.i-f newsgroups.  (A hintbook and map book -- separate
 items -- were sold too, BTW.)

 - Original Message -
 From: Stuart Feldhamer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:47 PM
 Subject: [SWCollect] Once and Future


  Any of the people on this list have a spare copy of Once and Future from
  Cascade Mountain Publishing that they'd be willing to sell/trade to me?
I
  never heard of this when it was first released, unfortunately, and was
 also
  too stupid to buy it from Ye Olde Infocom Shoppe when they had an extra.
 
  Stuart
 
 
 
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Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller
 WC3 Premiere I didn't hear of until it was fetching high prices on Ebay.
 HOWEVER, I bought a copy not too long ago for $29.95 from an online
 store that found a whole bunch of them somewhere. I don't remember the
 name of the store offhand, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the
 source of what's been turning up recently.

Sounds like an explanation, especially since those copies on eBay were
still sealed. Let's hope a few more will turn up, I'm still looking for
a shrinked US release.

It's amazing how quickly leftover stock from a single source can devalue
an item on eBay. Duckman comes to mind... used to be $300, is now $25
after a German GTZ user sold some 50 copies to most of the serious
adventure collectors out there. Made a small fortune that way. Wasn't me,
unfortunately ;)

/Alexander


-Original Message-
From: Stuart Feldhamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:28 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition


I own both of these games. I bought Kilrathi Saga when it came out, from EB.
(Too bad I disposed of the box.)

WC3 Premiere I didn't hear of until it was fetching high prices on Ebay.
HOWEVER, I bought a copy not too long ago for $29.95 from an online store
that found a whole bunch of them somewhere. I don't remember the name of the
store offhand, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the source of what's
been turning up recently.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Zöller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition


I was surprised to see two shrinkwrapped copies on eBay within as little
as two weeks:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3000847934
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3002417968

I know we've been discussing this before - production run significantly
lower than that of the Kilrathi Saga, Premiere Edition's value *should*
be higher than the Saga's in view of its availability, etc.

I remember that someone on this list gave the Saga's production figure as
22,000 copies and the Premiere Ed's as 1,500. Wondering if anyone is able
to confirm this, especially if the discrepancy really is that big.

Also if anyone has information about European releases of the Premiere
Edition other than English and German. I've been told a French version
does also exist.

Here's a side-by-side comparison of the different boxes I have:
http://uw3.de/wc3+saga.jpg

Top: Premiere Ed European release (German version), Premiere Ed US release
Bottom: WC3 German release, WC3 US release, Kilrathi Saga

Thanks,

/Alexander

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Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller
 Argh -- I paid more for my UNwrapped, INcomplete package.  Argh.

I paid $125 for my shrinked European release, the only sealed copy I've
ever come across. WC3 Premiere was rather common on eBay Germany roughly
a year ago (at least one copy per month), but often missing important
components, people seem to have struggled keeping all the parts together.

/Alexander


-Original Message-
From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition


Alexander Zöller wrote:

 I was surprised to see two shrinkwrapped copies on eBay within as little
 as two weeks:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3000847934
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3002417968

Argh -- I paid more for my UNwrapped, INcomplete package.  Argh.

Well, at least I got my hands recently on the Creative pack-in Wing
Commander
IV DVD version (with real DVD video) *and* got it to work perfectly on my
W98
system with Hollywood + MPEG decoder.  And it was great until I realized I
suck at playing WC :-)  DVD and slipcover only, no box was ever released...
I
paid $31.  Fair, I thought.  Too high, too low?  Comments welcome.

I hear that the Wing Commander IV DVD retail version -- A single DVD with
the
contents of all 6 CDROMS on it -- is more rare because it had a more limited
production run.  Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Re: [SWCollect] Ebay Gets Crazier and Crazier

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller
Too bad about that big box U2... at least he doesn't threaten to leave
negative fb on snipers, seen that happen a few times (and it always struck
me as the most inane thing to do when selling on eBay).

/Alexander


-Original Message-
From: Stefan Lindblom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ebay Gets Crazier and Crazier


Mmm was thinking about that one myself since I dont have Ultima II.. but
like you say, all the crap, his own rules.. makes you wanna puke. Leaving
that one for you guys. Is it even possible to add the surcharge like he
mentions?

Stefan

- Original Message -
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ebay Gets Crazier and Crazier



 On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 06:06  PM, Stuart Feldhamer wrote:

  OK, look at this. I found this auction on ebay:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
  eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11047item=3004366043
 
  I was thinking, this is weird. It says 125 games, but only a few are
  listed.
  And the feedback rating is only 3. So I figured, let's see what else
  this
  guy has to offer. And look what came up!
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
  eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=323item=2909591867

 Here's one that's truly annoying:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/
 eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2303780307category=189.  There's so much
 verbiage (note the False Negative Feedback section) that you just want
 to pass on by.

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Re: [SWCollect] Ebay Gets Crazier and Crazier

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller



Quaresma's Law no 
doubt, although this combination is particularly stupid :D

/Alexander


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:38 
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Ebay 
Gets Crazier and CrazierThe person who "won" the auction is ebay member since Feb 1 
2003. What I don't get is why he would change buy it now to $500 then create new 
ID to bid and end the auction. Why $500, now he will have to pay $500 final 
value fees? Ebay gets Crazier and Crazier is 
rightTom 


Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller



Tom, you're on to 
something, I took a look at the images I saved. I have one pic of a box where 
the T-shirt linehas been(partially) blacked out.Also there's a 
variation of the canister's label, not all seem tohave the "Premiere 
Edition" writing:

http://uw3.de/wc3_premiere_1.jpg
http://uw3.de/wc3_premiere_2.jpg
http://uw3.de/wc3_premiere_3.jpg

If they ran out of 
T-shirts that might explain the existence of so many 'incomplete' 
copies...

Oh and could it be 
the firstpic (scan)was actuallytaken by you? I cannot remember 
how it made its way into my archive but I don't believe it came from an 
auction.

/Alexander


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:17 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] WC3: 
Premiere EditionIn a 
message dated 02/02/2003 7:30:00 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I paid $125 for my shrinked European release, the only sealed copy 
  I'veever come across. WC3 Premiere was rather common on eBay Germany 
  roughlya year ago (at least one copy per month), but often missing 
  importantcomponents, people seem to have struggled keeping all the parts 
  together.I'm not sure all of these are the same. I've 
seen a few of these big box/cannister releases that don't come with everything. 
In fact I have one, the spot where it says tshirt included on the box is blacked 
out. And I've seen others the same way (missing some other items too, at least 
mine is, mine does have the cannister but there is no picture on it). Maybe 
there was a "budget" premier edition too (the Sam's release?) By the way that 
IBM UII was/is not good, the contents were not from the big box, for sure the 
manual and galactic map/ref card are from a small box version.Tom 



Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 02/02/2003 8:40:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Oh and could it be the first pic (scan) was actually taken by you? I cannot remember how it made its way into my archive but I don't believe it came from an auction.


Don't know about that Alexander unless you are refering to the first link you just sent, that would not be me. My film can has no sticker on it at all, it is just a blank metal cannister.

Tom


Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread Alexander Zöller



The first link was 
to a scan ofan outer box with blacked out T-shirt note, not the film 
canister.Never mind ;-)

So far it looks as 
if there are at least three variations of the US release, but if the WCs are 
anything like the Ultimas, there must be more ;-)

/Alexander


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:04 
PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] WC3: 
Premiere EditionIn a 
message dated 02/02/2003 8:40:58 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh and could it be the first pic (scan) was actually taken by you? 
  I cannot remember how it made its way into my archive but I don't believe it 
  came from an auction.Don't 
know about that Alexander unless you are refering to the first link you just 
sent, that would not be me. My film can has no sticker on it at all, it is just 
a blank metal cannister.Tom 


Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 02/02/2003 9:53:29 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


The first link was to a scan of an outer box with blacked out T-shirt note, not the film canister. Never mind ;-)


Looked like film can with sticker but no premier edition words to me Alexander, none of them were a box? Or maybe I'm going crazy. ;)

Tom


Re: [SWCollect] WC3: Premiere Edition

2003-02-02 Thread AvatarTom
Ah I see, that is the box but you can't see much of the writing. Not a pic/scan I did.

TTYL!!
Tom


[SWCollect] Ultima II disks

2003-02-02 Thread AvatarTom
Anyone have any loose Sierra Ultima II disks for Apple ][ or Atari 8? Tan label. I would trade or buy. Also interested in incomplete small box UII as long as it has the box in nice shape. Map would be a plus, 2nd edition 17x22.

Thanks,
Tom


[SWCollect] That MicroLeague Baseball 2 problem

2003-02-02 Thread AvatarTom
My friend is still getting that error, xyzzy doesn't work (that's all there is, the game then locks up). I'm guessing it is a problem with the game software, the message appears in the window above the field where the play by play is being described. It seems to happen when the guys are running off the field but randomly, never know what inning it will happen. Does anyone have the game in IBM format? He sent me the game zipped and I got the same error when running the demo. It got through about 7 innings before it happened though, strange. If anyone can help let me know, he owns the original game so not a piracy thing.

Thanks,
Tom