Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Pedro Quaresma

There is also an Erbe spanish reedition of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, in a smaller box.

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Hi!
Is the list going to be only adventures/RPGs or other type of games too?

There are also german and israeli-versions of Lucas games
that I haven't listed (that we discussed last year a bit too)
just because at the moment I don't think to collect them;
I'm collecting way too much at the moment anyways ;)
On the other hand when you collect a lot, there's
rarely more than a brief stop in finding
something you're looking for.

I don't know them all and to include them
would require quite some detective work/time,
so I don't necessarily want to do that right now.
>From top of my head a few:

- Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (German, with poster of the cover
art)
- Monkey Island (German, disk)
- Loom (Israeli)
- Day of the Tentacle (German)
- Vollgas / Full Throttle (German)
etc...

And I'd surely include The Dig from 1995 as I for one regard it
one of the best adventure games ever made.
The atmosphere and ambient music are brilliant.
The CD soundtrack for it is from 1996.
I'd regard it highly collectible too.
German or some other version of this had a normal bigger
manual, as all the other versions I've seen only have the
CD-sized manual.

BTW they really should make sequal for the game;
though I don't know if it's such a good idea after all
at the current video game market (the lack of inspiriation/brain
and current stage of 3D doesn't attract me at all).
And surely it should be 2D.
I haven't followed the current gaming for some time;
is either Full Throttle 2 and Sam  Max 2 anymore on production?

And I think you're choice for not going for variants after
the newer Lucas-games; they seem like a mess.
F.ex. I have Scandinavian box version of Grim Fandango
and Curse of Monkey Island.
So what I'm saying there might be all kinds Timbuktu-variants or sorts :)
(Not saying that in a negative way or anything.)

(Updating Tolkien-collecting to all the modern platforms would be horrible
too;
PS2, Gameboy, X-Box, Gameboy Advande, Gamecube...
The horror, the horror...)


 Full Throttle (the attached image) (I need more info on this one)

That's the most common version I'm aware of
(large two-piece high box); could you inform me too what you mean?-)
Here are my Lucas scans; click to see bigger (if you haven't noticed :):
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_fin_games_lucasarts.html

I only know the regular portioned box (more height than width)
and the wide box for it.


** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak

Yeah, it's probably time to take that out from my list :)
(Though there is that KiXX XL two-piece box,
but it doesn't count to me.)

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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Jukka Eronen



[Nazgûl hologram] Hold on, this game is 
from the 80's. And you are saying you ordered it using the coupon 
in the game now, 15+ years later?? Or am I missing something 
here. Do you mean you just got it off eBay from some guy in the 
UK?Hehe, you're just drawing your own conclusions :)Yeah I bought it 
from eBay UK.At the time (probably 1985-86)it was available for ordering 
only in those places I mentioned.Actually, I remembering reading on the 
netcouple years ago someone sent a 3.5" disk to 5.25" floppy-replacement 
coupon (which apparently didn't have an expirement day)with the disks to 
LucasArts just for fun and the heck of it.The game was probably The Secret 
of Monkey Island.Obviously they didn't have floppies of it anymore,but 
some weeks later he received Monkey Island Madness on CDor something 
alike.That's quite honorable from LucasArts.Does someone remember 
the link for this?- Jukka--http://koti.mbnet.fi/~psychic/eng_index.html 
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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Jukka Eronen
Yeah, both Zak and Maniac Mansion have
regular and enhanced versions regarding resolution;
both are 16 colors.
Jim already posted links but here are some nice comparisons too:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/temp/temp_maniac_comparison.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/temp/temp_zak_comparison.jpg

I have the Maniacs on my harddrive.
The first version is about 300K and the later is about 650K.
I don't think I have enhanced Zak.

Then it gets confusing which box versions included which version.
Since I recall my later 1989 PC-version (with 3.5  5.25 disks)
which you'd think is the enhanced one, is in fact the first version.
(Though I don't know if this matters for the lists sake.)


The CURIOUS Guide will cover ALL games...that are action/strategy games
made between 1981 and 1983 for the VIC-20.  :-)

That was a joke...it will cover any game from 77 - 93 plus any game
deemed collectible or interesting after that timeframe.

Yeah :) I was just confused because we were listing only adventures
from Lucas, and not the many Indiana Jones -games,
arcade games (like Ballblazer), Night Shift, etc...

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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Jukka Eronen



Pedro Quaresma 
wrote:
There is also an 
Erbe spanish reedition of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, in a smaller 
box.
The arcade-one with the cover art directly from the 
movie poster?
(The game includes a poster too, though I'm missing 
it.)
Or is there an adventure release of Indy 3 
too?

Some Indy box shots and a collecting 
list:


http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_indy.html

http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_collecting_indy.html

- Jukka

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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Pedro Quaresma

Not the arcade one. It's a spanish release of the point'n'click adventure (using the SCUMM engine).

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Pedro Quaresma wrote:
There is also an Erbe spanish reedition of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, in a smaller box.
The arcade-one with the cover art directly from the movie poster?
(The game includes a poster too, though I'm missing it.)
Or is there an adventure release of Indy 3 too?

Some Indy box shots and a collecting list:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_indy.html
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_collecting_indy.html

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RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Freddie Bingham
The KIXX re-releases of the Lucasfilm games have very little value.  Just
$5-$10 for Maniac Mansion and Zak.

I've found reports that the Enhanced Maniac Mansion contains a poster of Zak
McKracken (instead of Star Wars) in the game room. I loaded the Maniac
Mansion from my DOTT Tri-Box CD and it was the V1 (not enhanced), same with
the Maniac Mansion on the DOTT CD in the Lucasarts Archives. I did that
because I found it commonly reported that the enhanced MM debuted in DOTT.
I then loaded Zak and MM from the Lucasarts Classics (from 1992) and voila
there are the enhanced versions of both (As reported by SCUMMVM).  I think
it is rather safe to assume this is where the enhanced versions made their
debut. Now if you were going to play Zak, you would still want to play the
256 color FM Towns version.

Freddie

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 Freddie Bingham wrote:
 
  The hi-res version if Zak that you have is the FM Towns 
 (Japanese PC
  Console) 256 color version that is playable on the SCUMM 
 emulator. I 
  do
 
 No, it is not.  What I have is clearly a 320x200 @ 16 color 
 version, not FM Towns 256-color version.  Here is a 
 screenshot of the low-res one most people
 have:
 
   
 http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,8122/
 
 ..and here is the same shot from the high-res one:
 
   
 http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,3579/
 
 And to further bake your noodle, here is a low-res original 
 Maniac Mansion:
 
   
 http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,8520/
 
 ..and here is the high-res 16-color version:
 
   
 http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,30499/
 
 Before you start tearing your hair out, I have verified that 
 the high-res MM was a UK release (go to MobyGames.com and 
 look at the DOS UK release back box, it has the high-res 
 shots on it), and the high-res Zak was a KIXX Australian release.
 
 The remaining question:  Are the euro high-res versions worth 
 more than the original ones?  CURIOUS!
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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Jim Leonard
Freddie Bingham wrote:

Being 'famous' doesn't mean it sells for a lot on eBay!
Agreed.  Or rare, either.  Anyone interested in buying a $200 Wibarm from me?  ;-)

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RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Pedro Quaresma

The KIXX re-releases of the Lucasfilm games have very little value. Just
$5-$10 for Maniac Mansion and Zak.

Not 100% true. The Amiga KIXX reedition of Monkey Island is famous because it has no copy protection :) Many KIXX games were sold with no copy protection, which is (was?) imho great.

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RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/ADD/SSI - info and questions

2004-02-26 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
I think you may be jumping to conclusions here...

Stuart

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*snip*

Before you start tearing your hair out, I have verified that the high-res MM
was a UK release (go to MobyGames.com and look at the DOS UK release back
box,
it has the high-res shots on it), and the high-res Zak was a KIXX Australian
release.

The remaining question:  Are the euro high-res versions worth more than the
original ones?  CURIOUS!
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