[swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Viktor Steinmann
In the heise news article it says, that VIT (Verband Inside Telecom) is gonna make a letter available to all ISPs, which can then be sent to the judge. Does anyone know, when/where this letter will be available? Cheers, Viktor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Gloor
In the heise news article it says, that VIT (Verband Inside Telecom) is gonna make a letter available to all ISPs, which can then be sent to the judge. Does anyone know, when/where this letter will be available? I called them, they should call me back in a few... I'll keep you informed...

Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Thomas Kernen
However I believe with a press release, we can bring the discussion into public, and this is one goal of SwiNOG, right? Not every member must be necessarily 100% agree to the release. But regarding the topic, we have a consensus. I think it's important that the public is aware, that filtering

Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Gloor
I called them (VIT), they should call me back in a few... I'll keep you informed... Well, they dont seems to be stressed by the problem, I called them back and could not reach the concerned person. This person should call me back ASAP (which may be monday...). Have a nice weekend :-)

Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Gloor
Well, they dont seems to be stressed by the problem, I called them back and could not reach the concerned person. This person should call me back ASAP (which may be monday...). ok, got news from VIT : - they're working hard on it (they're in touch with different lawyers etc..) -

AW: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

2002-12-13 Thread Steven Glogger
thanks pascal (even i'm not on the list) :) steven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Pascal Gloor Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Dezember 2002 15:36 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [swinog] Swiss gov strikes again / Canton Vaud

[swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Matthias Leisi
[Kopie an SIUG-Kerngruppe und SwiNOG-ML; Aussand ist über den Presseverteiler der Init7 erfolgt. Danke an alle Beteiligten für den kurzfristigen Effort. Da die Erreichbarkeit über das WE allseits etwas eingeschränkt erscheint, sollten wichtige Informationen wenn möglich auch via Telefon/SMS

[swinog] AW: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Steven Glogger
Regarding Thomas' objection: we stated the following. I hope everyone can live with that. thats ok from my side. when do you exspect the final version of the press release? -steven -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Fredy

Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Steven Glogger wrote: Regarding Thomas' objection: we stated the following. I hope everyone can live with that. thats ok from my side. when do you exspect the final version of the press release? Already gone by SIUG. F. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung:Untaugliche Sperranordnung der WaadtlA!Pth

2002-12-13 Thread Guido Rudolphi
Any objection if I forward the document to some journalists I know personally? On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:43:07 +0100 Fredy Kuenzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steven Glogger wrote: Regarding Thomas' objection: we stated the following. I hope everyone can live with that. thats ok from my

[swinog] Re: [swinog] Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Raimondo Carluccio
Thanks for the decypher Pascal. But the big original text is crypted too. - Original Message - From: Pascal Gloor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: [swinog] Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der

Re: [swinog] Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Pascal Gloor wrote: when do you exspect the final version of the press release? Already gone by SIUG. gone or done ? gone, means sent out via our 'konsumenten-presse' distribution list. It contains about 100 addresses. Regards Fredy --

[swinog] Re: [swinog] Re: [swinog] Re: [swinog] AW: [swinog] Pressemitteilung: Untaugliche Sperranordnung der Waadtländer Justiz

2002-12-13 Thread Pascal Gloor
Thanks for the decypher Pascal. But the big original text is crypted too. Would anyone able to translate the text to french so we would be able to send it to the french speaking press? Or has it already been sent there? P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[swinog] Press Reaction

2002-12-13 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
after our press release: http://www.pctip.ch/topthema/tt/22798.asp http://www.itreseller.ch/default.lasso?Artikel=14115 http://www.newsbyte.ch/start.cfm?gruppe=NEWSrubrik=allestartid=47375action=1 and from yesterday Dec, 12: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hob-12.12.02-000/

Re: [swinog] Press Reaction

2002-12-13 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
and almost forgotten: Netzwoche-Ticker today: Schweizer ISPs müssen Sites sperren Die Schweizer Internet Provider haben fünf Tage Zeit, die Seiten appel-au-peuple.org, auch erreichbar über die Site www.freejustice.de, derzeit allerdings wegen zu hohem Traffic down, sowie