t-and-f: TOP STARS WANT TO SEND SIGNAL IN LAST PRE-OLYMPIC MEET

2000-08-31 Thread Christopher Goss
TOP STARS WANT TO SEND SIGNAL IN LAST PRE-OLYMPIC MEET BERLIN (AP) - Like most of the world's track stars running at the ISTAF meet Friday, Maurice Greene is aiming to send a loud and clear signal to the competition before the Olympics. Whether it's Greene, Marion Jones, or Morocco's Hicham El Gu

t-and-f: WAVA equivalency tables

2000-08-31 Thread R.T.
That Ottey could clock a 10.99, or Johnny Gray could run a 1:46, or Eamon Coghlan, Steve Scott and John Walker could all take legitate shots at a 3:59 mile, all at age 40, is not so unbelievable given where they are coming from. Of COURSE they should be able to do it or come close. The reason it

Re: t-and-f: Al-Sabee 8.33m at Asian Champs!

2000-08-31 Thread WillyBeaman
Yes it was legal. I was there, I do not remember the wind, but if there was any it would have been a headwind. That 8.33 tied his personal best, and he also had a 8.30 from behind the board. If he can put it together in Sydney he will be a definite factor. He is quite capable of going 8.50.

Re: t-and-f: Romie's take on the Taurima flap

2000-08-31 Thread WillyBeaman
Are those tiny violins I hear playing in the background? Oh, Van Smack talked bad about one person, who happens to run track, who IS in debt, who IS living through the USOC, and happens to be an Olympian. Stop it already! Where is the fight? The truth? Most of you whining are American, and v

t-and-f: WAVA

2000-08-31 Thread Ed & Dana Parrot
> > You didn't ask, but Merlene's 10.99 at age 40 (into a slight wind) is > > worth 10.4 as an open mark on the WAVA Age-Graded Tables. Another way > > to appreciate Ottey's performance: Consider the M40 results at the > > USATF Masters nationals in Eugene. She would have taken second! > > Micha

Re: RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/31/00 2:25:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << For what it's worth, I think there are world records which could fall in Sydney. Women's hammer and javelin come to mind - and three out of four relay events. Then there's Michael Johnson. >> MJ is a god, but taking a (very

t-and-f: Track & Field in Metric measurement

2000-08-31 Thread K Ken Nakamura
Yesterday, I wrote my suggestion on how to deal with metric measurements in track and field. Unfortunately Garry Hill misunderstood my point. He wrote: <> My point was that "YOU SHOULD NOT TRY TO CONVERT METRIC MEASUREMENTS TO IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS." "YOU SHOULD LEARN THE METRIC MEASUREMENTS

RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

2000-08-31 Thread bobhersh
Message text written by "THOMAS,Graham" >41.30 WR GDR 4x100< 41.37

Re: t-and-f: Ottey's 10.99; arnie's status

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/31/00 2:10:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Where an age-graded masters record exceeds the open world record, it shows only that we have underestimated the potential of athletes of that age, and the tables should be revised to rate the two performances equally. The tabl

t-and-f: Rome on the Tim Seaman story

2000-08-31 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters Paul wrote: > I'd say it is more like > pooling all running talent currently in the 3K Steeple, > 5K, 10K, and marathon. And really, you see quite a lot > of crossover in running between those 4 events already. Add 1500 there too - Michelle was a former 1500m runner. Also at the Olympi

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-31 Thread JimRTimes
Here's a little poem to help remember Celsius equivalents: 30 is hot, 20 is nice. 10 is chilly, and 0 is ice. It ain't Shakespeare, but effective. Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread Kurt Bray
On Fri, 1 Sep 2000 00:05:34 +0100, northam wrote: > Second. It's not metric versus english unit. It's metric b=versus > imperial, because once we had an empire and we ruled the world. Now you > do, of course, which is why you shoud all go metric. We (meaning the US) obviously do not rule t

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread northam
>and because the magazine is laid out metrically, i can also tell you what >anything from a quarter inch to a foot is metrically. Question. Why if T&FN is a US magazine is it laid out metrically. I thought that was the sort of deviant thing we did over here. Second. It's not metric versus engli

t-and-f: Age-graded GIGO

2000-08-31 Thread A.J. Craddock
The age-graded tables are the perfect example of what is known in the computer world as GI-GO. Garbage in - garbage out. Why? Very simple. The huge distortions presented by performance enhancing drug use at all levels - in fact, the distortions from the "norm" are obviously greatest in the

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

2000-08-31 Thread CORA KOCH
And 10 C is exactly 50 F. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Jason L Bunston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: tnf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 2:02 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Olympic Weather >THOMAS,Graham at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Friday Fine. Increasing cloud. W

t-and-f: Longo sets new European best for 600m

2000-08-31 Thread Andre Sammartino
Palio Citta della Quercia, Rovereto, Italy, August 30th Men 100m Race A (-0.6): 1. J Laynes (USA) 10.27, 2. T Harden (USA) 10.30, 3. S Tilli 10.33, 4. A Coilombo 10.45, 5. F Scuderi 10.51, 6. D Phillips (US

t-and-f: good bloke time

2000-08-31 Thread Andre Sammartino
lengthy profile on four-time Australian Olympic marathon entrant and track and field team captain Steve Moneghetti... http://www.theage.com.au/sport/2901/A40048-2000Aug31.html "By any measure, his record is impressive in this cruellest of all track-and-field events. Three previous Olympics.

RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

2000-08-31 Thread THOMAS,Graham
For what it's worth, I think there are world records which could fall in Sydney. Women's hammer and javelin come to mind - and three out of four relay events. Then there's Michael Johnson. Anyway - here's the list of Australian 'allcomers' records - http://www.athletics.org.au/records/index.htm

Re: t-and-f: Ottey's 10.99; arnie's status

2000-08-31 Thread Jason Michael Blank
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Y ask Y: > > You didn't ask, but Merlene's 10.99 at age 40 (into a slight wind) is > worth 10.4 as an open mark on the WAVA Age-Graded Tables. Another way > to appreciate Ottey's performance: Consider the M40 results at the > USATF Masters nationals

t-and-f: Early candidates for world WAVA 2005

2000-08-31 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: National Masters News reports in its September edition that four cities have expressed "interest" in hosting the World Veterans Athletic Championships in 2005. (The 2001 meet is in Brisbane, Australia, and the 2003 meet will be in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.) The early hopefuls are: S

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread Dirk Wagner
GH schrieb am 31.08.2000: >you know you're fully inculcated into metrics when you roll over in the >middle of the night and the clock says "5:50" and you immediately think >"18-feet, half-inch." if you are folly inculcated into metrics, you do not convert metric measurements in to feet an inche

t-and-f: Re: Rome on the Tim Seaman story

2000-08-31 Thread Paul DeWitt
Michael Rohl wrote: "Imagine pooling all the running talent into two events imagine how hard that would be. That is what happens in the walks." That seems a little simplistic to me. I mean, the 2 race walking events are 20K and 50K, meaning it suits athletes with more endurance, less explosive s

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > you know you're fully inculcated into metrics when you roll over in the > middle of the night and the clock says "5:50" and you immediately think > "18-feet, half-inch." Middle of the night at 5:50? What kind of schedule do you T&FN guys work on??? Do you sleep

t-and-f: Asian Championships

2000-08-31 Thread B. Kunnath
Would anyone know of a site i could get full results of the Asian Games? Thanks Bob _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profil

t-and-f: Day 8 wit and wisdom

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
Taylor - we have to maintain the distance tribe alliance... Pascal Dobert - his name sounds more like an 18th century french impressionist than a track athlete. [impressionists are late 19th-century, but I'll let it slide] Who is Adam Setliff? I thought I was a faithful reader of T & FN but

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--Day 9

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
Dudes! you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Friday) to cut yet another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 8 remaining potential dinner guests to

t-and-f: Grote Poll Eligibility Query

2000-08-31 Thread Ryan Grote
Matt Lane...x-c or no x-c? Last year's X-C Xpress from The Walt had him as a senior, that is what I thought, but Molvar listed him as returning.   Clearly this makes a difference in the individual picture, and team as well, as W&M has either 6 of 7 or 7 of 7 back, and with Lane would effecti

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--he escapes again!

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
the guy who has been in the top 3 ever since Day 3 escapes by the skin of his teeth yet again! And the guy who is bumped was just the No. 4 choice yesterday (and No. 7 the day before that). adios to Mr. Taylor

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/31/00 6:22:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Ken Nakamura is SO right. for a short, enlightened period back in the 80s, CT HS track went completely metric (we even ran the 1500 & 3000) and all field events were measured in meters. It took about half a season, but everyo

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 9:19:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << In fact, even for people who know metric system, 6.00m PV means nothing unless one knows track & field. 5.00m would be just as impressive, if you knows nothing about track and field. Important point is that you know that 6.00m

Re: t-and-f: wava tables

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 7:33:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Disclaimer this nonsense does not represent the true opinion of the writer as he has destroyed his brain cells in a 9000 foot hypoxic environment and has no opinions. >> does that qualify as joining the mile-high club? :-)

t-and-f: Thessaloniki meeting

2000-08-31 Thread Michalis Nikitaridis
In the results I published yesterday there are enough omissions:   First, it must be underlined that the wind reading for Ottey was -1.2 m/s AND NOT -0.6 m/s as I published yesterday. The only wind aided mark of the meeting is the jump of Christina Nikolau (14,22 m. +2.4m/s).   The wind rea

Re: t-and-f: Sydney weather

2000-08-31 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/30/00 4:28:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << p.s. Malmo, are you available on a 'consulting/fee basis' for non-geek types? Not only am I unable to convert metric, my blood pressure goes off the charts when I open 'Excel' and stare blankly at those daunting spread shee

t-and-f: scholarship (from holland)

2000-08-31 Thread Pim Schout
Hello, We are two 16 year old athletes from holland. We would like to come to the USA over two years for excersising on trach and field and studying on a high school or university. We were wondering if we maybe could get a scholarship from a school. In holland we are on the top of the national

t-and-f: U.S. TV Reminder

2000-08-31 Thread WMurphy25
Tomorrow's final Golden League meet in Berlin will be shown the same night on ESPN from 7:30pm-8:30pm(Eastern). (It may have previously been advertised as starting at 8pm.) Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

2000-08-31 Thread Conway
As noted in previous posts on the weather, the likelihood of records being set in Sydney will be nil .. I know that records are kept on many different things including all comers records for various areas .. Are there a set of records for Australian continental bests .. Might give some idea of wha

t-and-f: Al-Sabee 8.33m at Asian Champs!

2000-08-31 Thread Shawn Sorenson
Does anyone have any wind info on this 8.33m jump by Al-Sabee (KSA) at the Asian Championships? If it's legal, he's #7 in the world this year. Shawn Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Thessaloniki meeting

2000-08-31 Thread Michalis Nikitaridis
In the results I published yesterday there are enough omissions:   First, it must be underlined that the wind reading for Ottey was -1.2 m/s AND NOT -0.6 m/s as I published yesterday. The only wind aided mark of the meeting is the jump of Christina Nikolau (14,22 m. +2.4m/s).   The wind read

RE: t-and-f: archives of old messages?

2000-08-31 Thread malmo
http://wso.williams.edu/listserv/tfselect/ -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary WangSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: t-and-f: archives of old messages? Does there still exist an archiv

t-and-f: Surin out for last two meets before Olympics.

2000-08-31 Thread Christopher Goss
AP is reporting that Bruny Surin has withdrawn from the Berlin Grand Prix in addition to the Thessaloniki meet that he skipped last night. He apparently wants to rest his hurt left hamstring.

t-and-f: RUDOLPH STRUGGLES TO CONQUER ANEMIA

2000-08-31 Thread Christopher Goss
RUDOLPH STRUGGLES TO CONQUER ANEMIA BRISBANE, Australia (AP) - One year after hitting the depths in her track career and nearly quitting, Amy Rudolph has reached the heights again. She is an Olympian for the second time. "With all the experience I've had over the last four years, I should be abl

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

2000-08-31 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 8/31/00 12:19:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >What is important is getting used to the metric figures, knowing what are >the good marks in meters. Ken Nakamura is SO right. for a short, enlightened period back in the 80s, CT HS track went completely metric (we even ran the

Re: t-and-f: archives of old messages?

2000-08-31 Thread R.T.
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:38:59 -0400, you wrote: >Does there still exist an archive for old t-and-f listserver messages? >i'm trying to dig up an old post about Kenyan XC training camp for >a friend of mine. > >thanks, gary Yes: http://wso.williams.edu/listserv/t-and-f/ RT