RE: t-and-f: rivals

2001-04-13 Thread John Dye
Correction: the Rivals Network has gone belly up. The individual publishers may or may not go under. The situation varies among the 600 independent publishers who contracted with Rivals to host their sites. Many of them, like DyeStat, were publishing before Rivals and are publishing after

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
Randall--it is what I know. They won the Olympic gold medal, which was merely a slip of keyboard. Either way, the point is made: your "thesis" is pure speculation and conflicts with all the evidence. Mine is congruent with all the evidence. On 4/13/01 3:10 AM, "Randall Northam" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: Nigerian soccer victory

2001-04-13 Thread Eamonn Condon
Randall may be confused by the Nigerian national soccer team's Olympic victory in Athens, Georgia in 1996. The Super Eagles beat Argentina 3-2 to win the Olympic gold medal. As most association football fans will know, many of the better soccer nations don't even participate in the Olympic

t-and-f: Re: Nigerian soccer victory

2001-04-13 Thread Eamonn Condon
And now I'm confusing Randall and Jon. Oops. Eamonn - Original Message - From: "Eamonn Condon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Track Field" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: Nigerian soccer victory Randall may be confused by the Nigerian national soccer team's

Re: t-and-f: Another View on NCAA Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ssd
There is absolutely NO WAY that a team will go to the regional with a one week rest after a conference meet. That would be absurd. The meet to have to get the kids qualified for the Big Dance? Not a chance. And, regarding the SC-UCLA dual, part of the problem is due to the fact that SC

t-and-f: Old High Schoolers...

2001-04-13 Thread LOVE91397
Dear Listers, I just read an article in the Star Ledger (NJ) pertaining to the allowance of a HS athlete to compete at the Penn Relays at the age of 20. I'm aware that this particular athlete had incredible circumstances that contributed to his being that age and not out of HS, but I feel

t-and-f: Totalsports

2001-04-13 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour
I just heard that the deal between Quokka and zuniversity.com has fallen through. As a result, Totalsports is shutting down. A whole bunch of colleges are scrambling to relocate their web sites. With rivals.com and others gone, the failure of to make money on the web is a classic case of art

Re: t-and-f: MJs farewell tour

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 12 Apr 2001 6:55:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Brian McGuire" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary Radnich is usually a great interviewer with a good rapport with his subjects. It sounds like he met his match in MJ, who it sounds like gave Radnich all the S**T he deserved.

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Oleg Shpyrko
Anyone who follows soccer knows that Olympic games to World cup is like Goodwill Games to Olympics in Athletics. A brief look at the current FIFA ranking shows that the top two african countries are South Africa (22nd) and Morocco (30th) - both are powerhouses as far as distance running is

Re: t-and-f: Re: Scholarships

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 12 Apr 2001 9:43:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, as Title IX became more of an issue, scholarships on one side withered away, while on the other the pot of gold came raining down. That is why the women have much better competitions

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Randall Northam
on 13/4/01 3:26 PM, Jon Entine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randall--it is what I know. They won the Olympic gold medal, which was merely a slip of keyboard. Either way, the point is made: your "thesis" is pure speculation and conflicts with all the evidence. Mine is congruent with all the

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
Randall: Rather than QUESTIONING my scholarship why don't you actually take the book out of the library and CRITIQUE it. Otherwise you will continue to make statements that are not supported by the facts, such as that Kenyans have a great body type for soccer, a fact that you are now apparently

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
Randall: Rather than QUESTIONING my scholarship why don't you actually take the book out of the library and CRITIQUE it. Otherwise you will continue to make statements that are not supported by the facts, such as that Kenyans have a great body type for soccer, a fact that you are now apparently

t-and-f: Mad Conference Disease

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In posts I've received both on and off the list, there has been a steady flow of "the sky is falling" talk regards what Regionals are going to do to conference meets. Other than all the apparently uninformed spongiform babbling, does anybody actually have any FACTS on this subject, or does

t-and-f: Online Coverage

2001-04-13 Thread Brian Kavanaugh
I don't believe this site was mentioned, but www.iwon.com has decent coverage of track and field. Go to sports and choose "Track Field" from the dropdown box on the right-hand side. It looks like they pull their track articles from the AP wire... There's an article there right now about Tommy

Re: t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3543

2001-04-13 Thread alan tobin
Testing at birth wouldn't tell you much since your growth is to a large degree genetically programmed. It would have to be after the last growth spurt. Well, then there would be no good way to test for genetic lung capacity because after birth you will improve your lung capacity by your

t-and-f: About the genetics of lung capacity

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
That's just not true Alan. We can't test for the specific gene frequencies in 99 percent of the phenotypic characteristics that are rooted in the genome, even such common things as the ability to have five fingers. Yet, scientists can and have tested for the genetics of lung capacity in animals

Re: t-and-f: Online Coverage

2001-04-13 Thread Doug Lynch
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Re: t-and-f: More on NCAA news

2001-04-13 Thread P.F.Talbot
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Ed Grant wrote: Not content with already reducing much of the college scene, indoors and out, to mark-chasing, they now insure that most conference meets will either be held much too early or will lose their top competitors in many events. I really don't think we

t-and-f: when gambling becomes part of track

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
this from a friend in Oz: Obadele Thompson has arrived for the Stawell Gift in the Victorian country town of Stawell. The big controversy this year is that the Victorian Athletics League's chief sprints handicapper, Ricky Dunbar, has given his own son, Cam Dunbar, a favourable mark of 8.50m

Re: t-and-f: More on NCAA news

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Ed Grant wrote: The NCAA has already destroyed the rest of the college basketball season---except in that lone holdout, the Ivby League, by redycing the regular season league competition to nothing more than exhibition statyus (something like the NBA). And they have constructed a 64-team

Re: t-and-f: Why we question Chinese marks

2001-04-13 Thread Richard McCann
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:06:29 From: "Kurt Bray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conway says: So I don't th ink we should bandy about disparagingly regarding any record simply beause it is so much better than the individual did before ... Because most records end up being that way ... I don't

Re: t-and-f: Why we question Chinese marks

2001-04-13 Thread John Lunn
Richard McCann wrote: Something was wrong in Beijing in 1993, but we really don't know what. RMc The marks were fast because they laid the new track over an existing track which had a curb. Screwed up everything. Joking. JL

Re: t-and-f: National class runner runs only 5 days a week?

2001-04-13 Thread William Bahnfleth
Shouldn't the title of this post be "National class runner trains 135 miles a week at high intensity"? Don't miss the forest for the trees. Bill Bahnfleth At 12:19 PM 4/13/2001 -0700, Edward Nigma wrote: Noticed the following exchange in Runnersworl Online's recent interview with up and

t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Cordner3
It seems to me that the simplest way to solve most of the problems involving regionals would be to set back the NCAA championship meet by a week or two -- where it used to be.

Re: t-and-f: More on NCAA news

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 2:12:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Ed Grant" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The NCAA has already destroyed the rest of the college basketball season---except in that lone holdout, the Ivby League, by redycing the regular season league competition to

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 4:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me that the simplest way to solve most of the problems involving regionals would be to set back the NCAA championship meet by a week or two -- where it used to be. the

Re: t-and-f: Regionals oops

2001-04-13 Thread GHTFNedit
i missed one: the latest nationals ever was June 22-23 of 1934. The first time the meet was ever held with competition in May didn't come until 1977. gh

Re: t-and-f: Another View on NCAA Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Richard McCann
At 09:55 AM 4/12/2001 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:54:53 -0400 From: "Kebba Tolbert" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Another View on NCAA Regionals I'm with you Scott! I think regionals is a huge, huge mistake. I really feel like the best kids in the country

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
gh wrote: One thing we can hope for is that the pushing back of the NCAA will also force the USATF meetwhere it should be, even later in the year. Like the last week of June, or even in July. Which would then make it easier to create a nationwide set of local and regional meets - with the

t-and-f: Kalenjins Who Have Won Boston

2001-04-13 Thread KUKIMBIA
Following is a list of the Kalenjin women who have won the Boston Marathon: Gee, with all the tribes that make up the Kalenjin "tribe", you'd think they could have won something. Bruce Meyer KUKIMBIA Chicago

Re: t-and-f: Mad Conference Disease

2001-04-13 Thread Jack Moran
Steve Lynn and Dick Lee, of Iowa State, have told me that scheduling Regionals on the last weekend in may will force their conference meet into April. The reason is that one school or another is in finals week the first three weeks of May (we sometimes forget they are students, I know). Thus,

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Randy Treadway
Another question - when do the various national championships of the European countries occur? And when do the Kenyan nationals occur? The third or fourth week of July, when the European circuit pretty much "shuts down" to allow athletes to return to their home countries for their NC's. And

t-and-f: Syedikh, Farmer-Patrick record attempts?

2001-04-13 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: Kansas Relays reports: LAWRENCE, Kan. -- Yuriy Syedikh (Yur-ee Sid-yeak), the world record holder in the men's hammer throw with a mark of 284-7 will compete at the 2001 Kansas Relays, "An Olympic Return." Syedikh, a former Track and Field News athlete of the year, has had over 204

t-and-f: Old high schoolers

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: On the question of how old a high school athlete should be before being ruled ineligible: At one time, New Jersey had a simple rule: when a boy (no girls competing then) reached his 20th birthday, he became ineligible that day even if it was in mid-season of a sport. This was

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Paul Banta
What about the existing U.S. IAAF meets? While I would love to have my meet later in the summer when the weather in Oregon is likely to be better, I am sure that the quality of the fields would be lessen by more competition with the European circuit. Both the Pre Classic and the adidas Oregon

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
What about the existing U.S. IAAF meets? They are at the beginning of the IAAF season, right? So a U.S. athlete will run the U.S. meets before going to Europe. Then, head over to Europe for 4-5 weeks, then back for USATF nationals during the break. No extra trips to Europe and gives athletes

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Another question - when do the various national championships of the European countries occur? And when do the Kenyan nationals occur? The third or fourth week of July, when the European circuit pretty much "shuts down" to allow athletes to return to their home countries for their NC's.

Re: t-and-f: Kalenjins Who Have Won Boston

2001-04-13 Thread Randall Northam
on 13/4/01 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following is a list of the Kalenjin women who have won the Boston Marathon: Gee, with all the tribes that make up the Kalenjin "tribe", you'd think they could have won

RE: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread malmo
I am sure that the quality of the fields would be lessen by more competition with the European circuit. What scheduling conflicts from July 10 - July 28? malmo Both the Pre Classic and the adidas Oregon Track Classic were able to do ok last year despite the European conflicts

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread NPM2RUN
Ed- (and list) your problem here is you think it is the NCAA's( and schools themselves) job's to get these kids ready for International comp?? GET REAL, this list is so off base when they talk about this stuff, it isnt funny. If those 100 or more kids want to start in mid may that is fine,

t-and-f: Stripper

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t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-13 Thread denise lockett
The NCAA meet will be one week later than right now, running from Weds-Sat as always. The regionals will be held one week prior to the current NCAA weekend, meaning 11-15 days before the new NCAA date, depending on event. This date for the regional is currently a non-competition weekend. The week

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Randy Treadway
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:18:46 EDT, you wrote: While most schools love the press that having an athlete of theirs make the Olympic team or such gets them, don't think for a second that school Ad's or presidents give two shits what USATF wants or does. Agreed. So why should USATF bend itself into

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3545

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
That's because Kalenjin women are, by and large, not permitted to run, as I explain in "Taboo." But let's not let the facts get in the of pseudo-science. For the record, the last four Boston Marathon women's division races have been won by East African women from the identical western rim of the

Re: t-and-f: National class runner runs only 5 days a week?

2001-04-13 Thread Joel Tetreault
I think his training is based on two things: 1. he got hurt a lot in the past when he ran really high mileage. 2. he experimented with a variation of a training method developed for swimmers, a couple of years ago and ran a 1:03/1:04 half marathon off of it and has been tinkering with it since.

Re: t-and-f: Regionals

2001-04-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:18:46 EDT, you wrote: While most schools love the press that having an athlete of theirs make the Olympic team or such gets them, don't think for a second that school Ad's or presidents give two shits what USATF wants or does. and RT wrote: So why should USATF bend

Re: t-and-f: regionals won't kill the NCAA schedule

2001-04-13 Thread Tyler51086
Well, the USC-UCLA meet has traditionally been the first Saturday in May, and the weather has generally been pretty good for it. Moving it a week earlier would probably invite poorer weather. The Pac-10 Championships have indeed been only 10 days before the NCAA Championships, and it has