[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v2 Vehicle Type "coach"

2017-10-03 Thread Mikolai-Alexander Gütschow
Hi all, I've elaborated a proposal for the route=coach tag according to the Public Transport Scheme v2 and as already in use in some cases. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport_v2_Vehicle_Type_%22coach%22 The proposal adds the possibility to differentia

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: > This obviously doesn't qualify as a tunnel since the ?north? side is open to > air; nor is it a cave, quite. Do we have a way attribute or area attribute > for undercut/overhang area ? "covered=yes", I think... >> And, yeah, 'natural=cliff'

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Warin
On 04-Oct-17 12:00 PM, Bill Ricker wrote: On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Question on memorials v monuments thanks. How about a memorial arboretum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Question on memorials v monuments thanks. > > How about a memorial arboretum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum), > a commemorative planted grove of trees that you can walk through & sit > under? > > Does that count as a monument,

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread Bill Ricker
> > Nominally layer=0 is 'ground level'. In these situations the 'ground > level' > > folds back on itself - so both 'layers' are nominally 0. > ​I think Kevin has adequately refuted that: ​ > OK, yeah, I forgot 'layer' - and I think I'd use the rule, if you look up > to > the zenith and see rock

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Question on memorials v monuments thanks. How about a memorial arboretum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arboretum), a commemorative planted grove of trees that you can walk through & sit under? Does that count as a monument, or is it a memorial? Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 04-Oct-17 07:39 AM, marc marc wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Le 03. 10. 17 à 21:46, Kevin Kenny a écrit : >>> >>> is there particular tagging that I should >>> be using where ways cross because of natural topography? >>> 'covered=

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread Warin
On 04-Oct-17 07:39 AM, marc marc wrote: Hello, Le 03. 10. 17 à 21:46, Kevin Kenny a écrit : is there particular tagging that I should be using where ways cross because of natural topography? 'covered=yes'? Something else? you can/should put layer to parts of ways that don't cross Nominally

Re: [Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 03. 10. 17 à 21:46, Kevin Kenny a écrit : > is there particular tagging that I should > be using where ways cross because of natural topography? > 'covered=yes'? Something else? you can/should put layer to parts of ways that don't cross Regards, Marc ___

[Tagging] Way beneath overhanging cliff

2017-10-03 Thread Kevin Kenny
I'm just wondering how best to tag to clarify a situation that I've encountered twice now. If you look at the Indian Ladder and Escarpment trails on http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/42.6529/-74.0150 you'll see that there are several points where they nearly cross. Actually, at a couple of thos

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:21 PM, José G Moya Y. wrote: > Ok, so you agree in reserving war_memorial for war memorials that do not > fit into plaque, statue and other "shape" categories? > ​I wasn't taking a position specifically. Since asked... >From my point of view it's possible to be a war_

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread José G Moya Y .
Ok, so you agree in reserving war_memorial for war memorials that do not fit into plaque, statue and other "shape" categories? El 3/10/2017 21:08, "Bill Ricker" escribió: > The Vietnam War Memorial is the first one in US history, to my knowledge, to list all of the American casualties. ​ ​Depen

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Bill Ricker
> The Vietnam War Memorial is the first one in US history, to my knowledge, to list all of the American casualties. ​ ​Depending on domain of "all" ... it's the only national "all", but not the first to list all for a smaller demographic unit than nation. Harvard U's Memorial Hall lists all alumni

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread John F. Eldredge
On 10/3/2017 12:26 PM, José G Moya Y. wrote: +1. But I wonder if memorial=war_memorial was created with a shape in mind, that of large walls with long lists of names on it we see on american movies. (In Spain, collective memorials are either big plaques, statues or obelisks. The plaques, typ

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread José G Moya Y .
+1. But I wonder if memorial=war_memorial was created with a shape in mind, that of large walls with long lists of names on it we see on american movies. (In Spain, collective memorials are either big plaques, statues or obelisks. The plaques, typical of the Spanish war of 1936-39, are being remov

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
uto, 3. lis 2017. u 12:19 Martin Koppenhoefer napisao je: > > There also a "topic" key in small use: > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/topic#values maybe rather than > theme it could be "memorial:topic=war"? > > Ok, memorial:topic=war. Is this thread enough to deprecate war_memorial on th

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 16:02 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug OSM : > You're talking about things like this ? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dinsect_hotel > > I don't see an issue with this, it has 105 instances tagged and documentation in several languages. I'm not very interested in the topic, but

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 12:32 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > and more, if you delete the banners that warn the problem, it is clearly > an intention to mislead people and / or manipulate the result of the > invalid vote of the proposal, which in my opinion alone justifies a > radical clarification to make the differe

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
You're talking about things like this ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dinsect_hotel Have those all been discussed ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Seamark_Object_Usage When is it "low usage" ? And how should usage appear (in a structured way), if it's not documente

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Fixing wiki* -> brand:wiki*

2017-10-03 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi, I have elaborated on my thoughts on the correct ordering of key parts: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/42430 You can invert your arguments and still be right: "wikipedia:brand is the wikipedia link for the brand, hence it is the right order, the same as with ref:brand : the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread marc marc
Le 03. 10. 17 à 11:52, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > 2017-10-03 11:34 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. > > If everybody creates feature pages for his personal, low usage features, > the wiki loose

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 11:55 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > I propose we deprecate memorial=war_memorial. It's in conflict with other > values of this key. We can use memorial:theme=war_memorial. We can expand > this with other values, like memorial:theme=notable_person, notable_event, > and so on. > +1, we sh

Re: [Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
I propose we deprecate memorial=war_memorial. It's in conflict with other values of this key. We can use memorial:theme=war_memorial. We can expand this with other values, like memorial:theme=notable_person, notable_event, and so on. Janko uto, 3. lis 2017. u 11:15 demon.box napisao je: > hi, I

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 11:34 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug : > Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. > If everybody creates feature pages for his personal, low usage features, the wiki looses it's function of documenting the generally used and established features, as they are not

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug
Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. In case anyone would have improvement suggestions they are certainly appreciated. Am Montag, 2. Oktober 2017 23:20:41 CEST schrieb marc marc : Hello, Le 02. 10. 17 à 13:21, Michael Reichert a écrit : What are your opin

[Tagging] war_memorial

2017-10-03 Thread demon.box
hi, I would tag a war memorial for example like these: so I choose: historic=memorial memorial=war_memorial but how can I specify the ki