Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

Some of the most used historical tags are for things that are just old, not necessarily disused or with another use than the original one. Wayside cross and shrine, monuments, memorials, castles etc. It just seems to signify a special relationship with history, not much more than that. But then

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

I am actually a bit surprised by this. It may be a research related term, but "hollow way" seems quite common in British English archaeology... See these links: - Historic England: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1016748 - Shorne Woods Arhaeology Group:

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19/02/2018 23:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: everything we tag is still what it is. A historic=archaeological_site is also “used” as archaeological site, or a historic=memorial. But not for its original purpose, as it is in this cae DaveF

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

sent from a phone > On 19. Feb 2018, at 22:28, Richard Welty wrote: > > i know of examples in both italy and the US. the italian ones > i've seen are older and thus much more sunken than the ones in the US. in Italy there are also “a lot” of historic cuttings (in

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > > cutting=sunken_lane feels good. this feels right to me too. Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

sent from a phone > On 19. Feb 2018, at 19:33, Dave F wrote: > > If something is still in use then historic is the wrong tag. everything we tag is still what it is. A historic=archaeological_site is also “used” as archaeological site, or a historic=memorial.

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 2/19/18 3:20 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 19/02/2018 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > >> As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, >> however reading the description it seems that this proposal is >> describing what is called a Sunken Lane. > > Might need a bit more

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19/02/2018 20:59, Jo wrote: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holloway Indeed - but if you actually read the links there you'll see Bill Bryson's comment on that very page ("In different regions they go by different names...").  He's someone who's studied the origin of the language in both

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/holloway 2018-02-19 21:20 GMT+01:00 Steve Doerr : > On 19/02/2018 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > > As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, >> however reading the description it seems that this proposal is

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19/02/2018 11:32, Colin Smale wrote: Why historic? It still is a sunken lane. If something is still in use then historic is the wrong tag. Everything, even the most recently open roads, have a history even if it's a short one. DaveF ___

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19/02/2018 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: Hi Joost As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, however reading the description it seems that this proposal is describing what is called a Sunken Lane. I would avoid cutting as that implies something that has been cut

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

Hi all, 2018-02-19 16:36 GMT+01:00 Tod Fitch : > My OED says that an aqueduct is “an artificial channel for the conveyance > of water from place to place; a conduit; esp. an elevated structure of > masonry for this purpose.” So from the first part of that definition an >

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19.02.2018 11:48, joost schouppe wrote: Hollow way is probably a germanism; it's what sunken lanes are literally Right: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hohlweg=images ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC 2 - Pressurized waterways

> On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:06 AM, John Sturdy wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Paul Allen > wrote: > In my part of the world, an artificial waterway used > for conveying water is almost always referred to as an

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-19 12:32 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > Wikipedia says they are also known as hollow way - you learn something > every day. Sunken Lane appears to be the preferred terminology however. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_lane > Germans are writing in the English

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-19 11:48 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe : > Hi, > > Hollow way is probably a germanism; it's what sunken lanes are literally > called in Dutch too. I absolutely agree that we should stick to British > English for tags, wherever possible. So if we change the proposal to

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

Wikipedia says they are also known as hollow way - you learn something every day. Sunken Lane appears to be the preferred terminology however. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_lane Why historic? It still is a sunken lane. If you go back a couple of hundred years it probably wasn't though -

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

> > Hi Joost > As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, > however reading the description it seems that this proposal is describing > what is called a Sunken Lane. > > I would avoid cutting as that implies something that has been cut > deliberately for the construction

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

On 19/02/2018 09:00, Philip Barnes wrote: Hi Joost As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, however reading the description it seems that this proposal is describing what is called a Sunken Lane. I would avoid cutting as that implies something that has been cut

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

Hi Joost As a native English speaker I have never heard the term Hollow Way, however reading the description it seems that this proposal is describing what is called a Sunken Lane. I would avoid cutting as that implies something that has been cut deliberately for the construction of a

[Tagging] reviving hollow way

Hi, The proposal for historic=hollow_way has been in RFC since 2009. There are now 4500 objects tagged this way. The main alternative cutting=hollow_way has less than 50 occurences. Other alternatives seem to have been abandoned. Can we just move this to RFV or do we need to restart the