Re: [Tagging] Fixing import

On 3/1/19 21:31, Greg Troxel wrote: > Paul Johnson writes: > >> Honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for highway=road to be the default type for >> bulk imports, especially after the TIGER fiasco. > > Another view would be that if an import seems like it should be > highway=road, then it isn't good

Re: [Tagging] Fixing import

Paul Johnson writes: > Honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for highway=road to be the default type for > bulk imports, especially after the TIGER fiasco. Another view would be that if an import seems like it should be highway=road, then it isn't good enough data to import.

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Mateusz Konieczny writes: > Mar 1, 2019, 8:48 PM by ba...@ursamundi.org: > >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 13:57 Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com >> > > wrote: >> >>> Feb 27, 2019, 7:31 PM by >> ba...@ursamundi.org >>> >> : >>>

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Sergio Manzi writes: > The typical roles of the Coast Guard (/or whatever is called in > different countries/) is maritime borders control and maritime law > enforcement. This is why it's hard. Border control is sort of military and law enforcement is mostly police.

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Graeme Fitzpatrick writes: >> The Border Patrol and other immigration people I would >> sort into police. They arrest people, rather than treating them as >> prisoners of war (Geneva convention again). > > So would a Border Patrol / Customs office be tagged as a Police station? That's a hard

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

BTW, here in Venice patients are almost always transported by emergency personnel on "a chair with handles" (/a chair-stretcher... I don't know if there is an English name for that.../). The reason is that normal stretchers would not pass through most buildings narrow and steep stairs. Should

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 2019-03-02 01:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > sent from a phone > >> On 1. Mar 2019, at 13:45, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> I would tag max weight, I would not tag emergency=no. > > +1, it will not exclude all kinds of emergency services anyway, only those in > vehicles that are too

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 2019-03-02 01:35, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 00:22, Sergio Manzi mailto:s...@smz.it>> > wrote: > > On 2019-03-02 00:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just >> allowed to break them :-) eg in an emergency,

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 00:22, Sergio Manzi wrote: > On 2019-03-02 00:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just > allowed to break them :-) eg in an emergency, an ambulance can go through a > red light, but if they cause an accident by

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

sent from a phone > On 1. Mar 2019, at 13:45, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I would tag max weight, I would not tag emergency=no. +1, it will not exclude all kinds of emergency services anyway, only those in vehicles that are too heavy, for example there could be police on bicycles who

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On 2019-03-02 00:59, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just allowed > to break them :-) eg in an emergency, an ambulance can go through a red > light, but if they cause an accident by doing so, the driver will be charged > (& they have

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 07:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > And emergency vehicle are exempt from traffic laws. > > Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just allowed to break them :-) eg in an emergency, an ambulance can go through a red light, but if they cause an

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On 2019-03-02 00:09, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > However, In Australia (& I know there are other countries the same) the Coast > Guard is a strictly civilian, volunteer marine rescue group only, with no > military, or police, connections at all (apart from working together with > Water Police

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:02 PM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Adding emergency=yes is useful only where it adds information to mapper or > data consumers. > I am not going to start spamming it everywhere. You can set a country-wide default [1]. Otherwise, you only need to add emergency=yes when any

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 18:02, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems like the best way forward now is for a proposal allowing > OpenStreetMap data to be tightly integrated with outside sources (such as > GTFS) to be created by someone. +1. To avoid lots of changes, perhaps only set

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I wonder what we call "police" in OSM. > > The wiki does not offer a lot of guidance (France aside): "A police > station is a building where police officers and other staff work and are > dispatched from, and where suspects and evidence

[Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

Hi everyone, The proposal for the tag "departures" has finished, and has a final vote of * 12 "Approve" * 22 "Reject" * 3 Comments without vote * 1 "Degree of incredulity" at the proposal . . . meaning that the proposal was rejected. Overall, the main idea voters expressed was that connecting

[Tagging] Telecom exchange wiki page German translation

Hi all Would it be possible to get the wiki telecom=exchange page translated into German please? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:telecom%3Dexchange telecom=exchange aims to provide a more reliable terminology to map buildings where telecom landlines are connected to service providers. It

Re: [Tagging] Fixing import

Can't do that - would destroy too many corrections since. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 1 mrt. 2019 om 11:00 schreef Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > > Maybe highway=unclassified added in this import should be retagged to > highway=road > (the actual "no known classification" tag).

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Mar 1, 2019, 8:48 PM by ba...@ursamundi.org: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 13:57 Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> Feb 27, 2019, 7:31 PM by >> ba...@ursamundi.org >> >> : >> >>> motor_vehicle=no would exclude

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 15:25, Paul Johnson wrote: >> To exclude emergency vehicles one should tag physical, not legal >> barriers. > > To include motorized emergency vehicles where access=no or motor_vehicle=no, > you need to add emergency=yes. Because if we don't, the fire truck stops, the

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 13:57 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Feb 27, 2019, 7:31 PM by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > motor_vehicle=no would exclude most emergency vehicles. > > No, it would not. motor_vehicle=no is a legal limitation. > And most emergency vehicles are motor vehicles. And if anything,

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 13:17 Fernando Trebien wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 3:53 PM Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 12:41 Jarek Piórkowski > wrote: > >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 13:32, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 11:25 Fernando Trebien < >

Re: [Tagging] Fixing import

Honestly wouldn't be a bad idea for highway=road to be the default type for bulk imports, especially after the TIGER fiasco. On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 03:59 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Maybe highway=unclassified added in this import should be retagged to > highway=road > (the actual "no known

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

Martin Koppenhoefer writes: > I wonder what we call "police" in OSM. > > The wiki does not offer a lot of guidance (France aside): "A police station > is a building where police officers and other staff work and are dispatched > from, and where suspects and evidence are collected and processed."

Re: [Tagging] Mistagging footways as highway=pedestrian

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:20 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Feb 28, 2019, 6:48 PM by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:29 PM Janko Mihelić wrote: > > čet, 28. velj 2019. u 14:15 Martin Koppenhoefer > napisao je: > > I agree, but we have a practical problem with people

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Mar 1, 2019, 3:23 PM by ja...@piorkowski.ca: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 09:10, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access >> >> and >> >>

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 09:10, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access and > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency > were just modifed > > Review of > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aemergency=revision=1812453=1606896 Should "so

Re: [Tagging] Mistagging footways as highway=pedestrian

Feb 28, 2019, 6:48 PM by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:29 PM Janko Mihelić <> jan...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > >> >> čet, 28. velj 2019. u 14:15 Martin Koppenhoefer <>> dieterdre...@gmail.com >> >> > napisao je:

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Mar 1, 2019, 1:03 PM by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: > That's not > written anywhere in the main articles on the topic [1][2]. If that's > the general interpretation, then emergency=* should not be nested > under acccess=*. > > [1] > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access >

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Mar 1, 2019, 1:37 PM by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> Can you give an example of place where emergency vehicles are >> legally forbidden from entering? >> > > Can I point you

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 12:14, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Can you give an example of place where emergency vehicles are > legally forbidden from entering? > Can I point you to an actual, real-world, example? No. Can I give you a scenario? Yes. A bridge wide enough for motor vehicles but a

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Feb 28, 2019, 1:24 PM by fernando.treb...@gmail.com: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 4:58 PM Mateusz Konieczny > <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > wrote: > >> >> Feb 27, 2019, 7:31 PM by >> ba...@ursamundi.org >> >> : >> >> motor_vehicle=no

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:56 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 13:26 Uhr schrieb Fernando Trebien > : >> Currently, it actually would because emergency=* is nested under >> motor_vehicle=* in the access tags hierarchy. [1] So to express that >> motor vehicles (cars,

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

Feb 28, 2019, 1:54 PM by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Am Do., 28. Feb. 2019 um 13:26 Uhr schrieb Fernando Trebien <> > fernando.treb...@gmail.com > >: > >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 4:58 PM Mateusz Konieczny >> <>> matkoni...@tutanota.com

Re: [Tagging] Comments on documenting winter speed limits tagging

Feb 28, 2019, 11:16 AM by jyri-petteri.palopo...@iki.fi: > – maxspeed defining the normal (summer) maxspeed, to ensure that there's > a decent value that all software understands. > – maxspeed:seasonal:winter for winter maxspeed, and :forward/:backward > appended as necessary > > a) does this

Re: [Tagging] Fixing import

Maybe highway=unclassified added in this import should be retagged to highway=road (the actual "no known classification" tag). Would be painful short term but would improve data. Feb 28, 2019, 1:56 PM by pelder...@gmail.com: > Agreed. In Nederland, I think most mappers will agree.  > > It's