Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:locked

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 15:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are also bicycle storage things with locked access. > Agreed, I've updated the proposal to apply to bicycle_parking=shed|lockers|building. For example the bicycle cage might just be there for shelter but not secured with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:locked

On 26/3/20 12:52 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've put together a proposal for Key:locked at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:locked which I'm proposing to use on barriers like gates to describe physical access restriction via a lock. Taginfo records 908 current uses

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:05 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would think that a default should be used - where the required language > name is not within OSM then the local language name should be used. > This should stop the copying of the local language name into other languages

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On 25/3/20 8:26 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the "name:xx" tags are something of an exception in OSM because while we defer to "local knowledge" as the highest-ranking source normally, this is not being done for name:xx tags. It is possible for no single citizen of the city of Karlsruhe to know

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:locked

I've put together a proposal for Key:locked at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:locked which I'm proposing to use on barriers like gates to describe physical access restriction via a lock. Taginfo records 908 current uses https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/locked and

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 23:51, Tod Fitch wrote: I attempted to create a multi-lingual map recently and came to the > conclusion that the suggestion in the wiki to repeat the name=* > withname:=* was the only workable way we have at the moment for a data > consumer to determine what the language

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:56 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 22:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > Is there any reason to actually specify name:en= when English is the > Australian language? > > It's not the language of all Australians. Ayers

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

In the previous proposal (Proposed features/Refugee Site Location) at least 6 people who opposed the proposal mentioned the key "place=" was not acceptable. Comments: "What about places that are de facto village/town but still administered by UNHCR or another humanitarian organization or

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 22:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Is there any reason to actually specify name:en= when English is the > Australian language? > It's not the language of all Australians. Ayers Rock is now Uluru. So it may be sensible, in some cases, to add name:en to allow for future

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

While mapping recently here in Australia, I've spotted a few things listed as name=Whatever, name:en=Whatever & name:international=Whatever. Is there any reason to actually specify name:en= when English is the Australian language? & how about name:international? Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Note that lots of the wikidata names are nonsense and are simply derived from the wikipedia page name (which a wp page has to have, but it doesn't imply that the object actually has a name in the language of the wikipedia you are looking at). For example the municipality I live in has a German and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Hello, I followed the recent discussion on the OSM France mailing list. Maybe there is value in creating a namespace for refugee_site instead of place=refugee_site, especially if this tag will be sometimes be added to nodes or areas which have other attributes not directly to being a refugee

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wednesday 25 March 2020, Jyri-Petteri Paloposki wrote: > > I slightly disagree with this one. IMO a name in a foreign language > would be admissible if it is recognised by native speakers of the > language either back home or in the local community OR if the name is > otherwise regarded correct

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On 25.3.2020 16.20, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: In that case, please add it to wikidata with a reference, but it would not be appropriate for Openstreetmap. Unlike wikipedia and wikidata, which are based on references and citations to "authoritative" sources, Openstreetmap has always been designed

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 126, Issue 81, message 2, Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Hi Paul., The flag of this discussion is IMHO not the question, but more about the source. Like you stated there are a lot of objects without a page, so lets stop announcing Wikipedia & Wikimedia as reliable sources, but name them for what is is second hand information. Which is not usable for

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Mar 25, 2020, 10:26 by frede...@remote.org: > A while ago we had a longer discussion about Esperanto names; in that > discussion, it was questioned whether Esperanto could be in the name tag > but nobody disputed that adding name:eo tags is ok, even though > Esperanto is an invented (or

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

> "if the name is otherwise regarded correct by mainstream media or a language > authority." In that case, please add it to wikidata with a reference, but it would not be appropriate for Openstreetmap. Unlike wikipedia and wikidata, which are based on references and citations to "authoritative"

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Hello,  The proposed feature place=refugee_site to provide a way for mapping places sheltering refugees and/or internally displaced persons fleeing the effects of a natural disaster or a political crisis for example has already been debated and voted on from

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On 25.3.2020 12.58, Christoph Hormann wrote: In terms of our traditional values and principles active use of the name is not the necessary criterion, it is verifiable local knowledge. Like with any kind of names practical verification of names would be possible by inquiring about the name to

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 10:02, wrote: > Honestly I don't think it makes sense for OSM to have names at all on > objects which has a Wikidata reference. > Not all mappable objects have a Wikidata reference. Cities and big towns, yes. Villages and hamlets, most but not all. Even where a wikidata

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 09:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > * niche constructed languages (say, FredLang which has 2 words I > invented just now) > Nope. I'm tempted because you could use those "words" as a binary code that maps to words in English. Make one of those words the space character and

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Am Mi., 25. März 2020 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm < frede...@remote.org>: > In my opinion, a name:xx tag should only be added if you can demonstrate > that people natively speaking the living language xx are actually using > this name for this entity. There are a few notable exceptions

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

On Wednesday 25 March 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > In my opinion, a name:xx tag should only be added if you can > demonstrate that people natively speaking the living language xx are > actually using this name for this entity. In terms of our traditional values and principles active use of the

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

在 2020年3月25日週三 18:34，Frederik Ramm 寫道： > Hi, > > On 25.03.20 11:19, Phake Nick wrote: > > My guess is that about 5% of name:xx tags in OSM actually represent a > > unique name in its own right; all others are either copies of the > name > > tag ("this city does not have its own name

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Hi, On 25.03.20 11:19, Phake Nick wrote: > My guess is that about 5% of name:xx tags in OSM actually represent a > unique name in its own right; all others are either copies of the name > tag ("this city does not have its own name in language XX but I want > every city to have a

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

在 2020年3月25日週三 17:27，Frederik Ramm 寫道： > Hi, > > the "name:xx" tags are something of an exception in OSM because while we > defer to "local knowledge" as the highest-ranking source normally, this > is not being done for name:xx tags. It is possible for no single citizen > of the city of

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Hi, On 25.03.20 10:45, Andrew Hain wrote: > Why on earth would we not (excluding exceptional copyright issues) want > to have lots of different name:XX tags? I thought I had given a couple of reasons in my post. If you have not understood them, I'm happy to rephrase. If you *have* understood

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Honestly I don't think it makes sense for OSM to have names at all on objects which has a Wikidata reference. We are just too small a community to keep this updated and it has little value to duplicate to the efforts made by others. If any names I suggest we have a bot autoupdating all name

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Well, since I'm able to communicate in Esperanto, albeit not fluently anymore, I would definitely like to keep name:eo, probably interlingua and those as well. I'm not expecting an invasion of Klingons or Elven, so those don't seem all that useful. Roman, you mean Latin? It existed, people

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Why on earth would we not (excluding exceptional copyright issues) want to have lots of different name:XX tags? -- Andrew From: Frederik Ramm Sent: 25 March 2020 09:26 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging] Which languages are

[Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

Hi, the "name:xx" tags are something of an exception in OSM because while we defer to "local knowledge" as the highest-ranking source normally, this is not being done for name:xx tags. It is possible for no single citizen of the city of Karlsruhe to know its Russian name, but still a Russian name