Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - vegetarian (and other diets)

2011-04-20 Thread Tom Chance
Just a quick reminder, this hasn't had all that many votes so could you have a look and vote to approve/reject the proposal? Thank you, Tom On 12 April 2011 09:36, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: Hello, I've moved this proposal to the vote, it has been open for discussion for a few

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - vegetarian (and other diets)

2011-04-12 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, I've moved this proposal to the vote, it has been open for discussion for a few months and has now been used in the wild for a similar period of time to see how well it works in practice. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vegetarian

Re: [Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)

2011-02-21 Thread Tom Chance
On 21 February 2011 11:08, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-08-26 05:08, Tom Chance wrote: On 26 August 2010 13:43, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: ... The source of energy used (generator:source) Combined with 'generator:method=fission' you have to add

Re: [Tagging] Draft - Vegetarian/Vegan

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Chance
On 15 February 2011 20:31, Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.comwrote: Aren't attributes like that more suitable to describe a person than a restaurant. I mean a person can follow a ovo-lacto diet, but find hard to think there would be a restaurant where every meal on the menu would be an

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Vegetarian, vegan, etc. diets

2011-02-16 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, Thank you for the feedback and suggestions so far, I have now moved this from a draft to a proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vegetarian Please add any comments to the Discussion page. Regards, Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance

Re: [Tagging] Draft - Vegetarian/Vegan

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Chance
On 15 February 2011 00:39, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 18:53 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/2/14 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: AFAIK there is quite a lot of differentiation in the vegetarian community (e.g. Ovo, lacto, ovo-lacto, veganism, raw

[Tagging] Draft - Vegetarian/Vegan

2011-02-14 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, Please read and comment on my draft proposal to improve our tagging of vegetarian and vegan food: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vegetarian I want to use something more sophisticated than cuisine=vegetarian for restaurants, cafes and shops. Regards, Tom --

[Tagging] Call for German, French, Russian Japanese updates for changed tag

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, Some time ago a proposal to change the way we specify types of power generators was passed. Unfortunately, the German, Russian, French and Japanese translations haven't been updated. I left requests on their respective discussion pages but nothing has happened. The original English page

Re: [Tagging] Call for German, French, Russian Japanese updates for changed tag

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Chance
On 22 November 2010 09:36, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 22.11.2010 10:26, schrieb Tom Chance: Some time ago a proposal to change the way we specify types of power generators was passed. Unfortunately, the German, Russian, French and Japanese translations haven't been

Re: [Tagging] Call for German, French, Russian Japanese updates for changed tag

2010-11-22 Thread Tom Chance
On 22 November 2010 12:49, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Tom Chance wrote: When that happens, the only logical course of action is to update the wiki documentation showing the new tags and removing the deprecated tags. It makes no sense to continue telling people about

[Tagging] Feature proposal - community food growing

2010-11-12 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, I have proposed a new landuse value - for land used for communal food growing (different to farms and allotments): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Community_food_growing Please read the rationale in full and leave any comments. As usual, I suspect there will be a

[Tagging] Theatre genres

2010-11-09 Thread Tom Chance
Further to the culture proposal discussions... Can anyone tell me where the various theatre:genre tags were discussed, put through the proposal process and voted on? I can only find evidence on the wiki of the original proposal in 2006 for amenity=theatre (which I voted for). It looks like they

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 08:24, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: Well, what is your definition of museum? I don't have to follow slavishly wikipedia but I took this as a first indication. This reminds me of turning to the dictionary for a definition of democracy when debating

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 08:35, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.orgwrote: Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS art works, it has to expose them in order for potential buyers to see, so it is shop=something. If it does NOT SELL, it is culture=museum (even if

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.orgwrote: On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally sell the exposed works, but Tom was saying that we should distinguish between

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 10:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: I agree that places whose primary purpose is to sell prints, paintings by local artists and framing services should be marked as shop=art. Thin ice IMHO. You are saying that original art by local artists is on the

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 11:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/11/8 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: culture=art_gallery: a place where the primary purpose is the temporary exhibition of art works for artistic appreciation _and_ who nevertheless sell art? saatchi

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 November 2010 13:14, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: a gallery doesn't have to be a building by it self, it doesn't have to be focused on selling (a false distinction in my book), it can be 2 or 3 walls in a library For the moment Martin's proposal doesn't offer anything for

Re: [Tagging] I started a draft on a new main key culture

2010-11-07 Thread Tom Chance
On 7 November 2010 17:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/11/7 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a substantial number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the project it is essential

[Tagging] Tidying up arts venues

2010-11-06 Thread Tom Chance
Hello, After bringing the tourism=gallery proposal to a long-overdue vote, I'd like to see what people think about the other tags for arts (in the broadest sense) venues. Looking around London, where there are thousands of arts venues, we have some fairly confused tagging and a huge number of

Re: [Tagging] Tidying up arts venues

2010-11-06 Thread Tom Chance
On 6 November 2010 11:29, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/11/6 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: Should I tidy up the music_venue proposal and bring it to a vote under the tourism key Is the current split between amenity / tourism about right? no, it is completly

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - art gallery

2010-11-05 Thread Tom Chance
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dart - This is not for museums that happen to have some art as part of their collections Regards, Tom Chance -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

[Tagging] Approved: power generator rationalisation

2010-09-18 Thread Tom Chance
these new tags without breaking any existing data. In the next few weeks I will try to contact others who have added a lot of data, and advertise this new schema on my blog and the British mailing list. Perhaps somebody could do the same if they are subscribed to talk, talk-de, etc? Best wishes, Tom

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-11 Thread Tom Chance
Throwing my hat in like a true masochist... I have added perhaps 100 trees - urban/rural, in 'clusters' and on streets where I would not say there is a cluster but where they are closer than 50m. I am also interested in an import from my local council. The wiki is clearly ambiguous and not

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 September 2010 09:34, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/6 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: If you can do so without requiring that mappers happy with generator:method=gasification be forced to instead enter a more complicated mixture of tags to describe those precise

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-08 Thread Tom Chance
On 8 September 2010 11:33, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: But your proposal is not a small change of the whole power=generator system. A change of tagging for example a tidal power plant shoud not be done every month. So it would be great if you can stop your fighting to push the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-06 Thread Tom Chance
Andre, On 4 September 2010 15:11, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: There are still some mismatches between source and method. e.g. generator:source=nuclear, generator:methode=fission A nuclear fission do not creates electricity it only creates a steam to power a turbine. This is

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-06 Thread Tom Chance
On 6 September 2010 13:46, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/9/6 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: Nobody needs the tag to be generator:method=fission-creating-steam-to-power-a-turbine-that-induces-an-electric-current, or generator:method=gasifiying-the-waste-municipal-wood

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-04 Thread Tom Chance
On 3 September 2010 23:16, Pierre-Alain Dorange pdora...@mac.com wrote: Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: If voted through, I will look at updating existing data in OpenStreetMap. I do not follow this discussion, but automatic data update is generally not welcome on OSM. It can/would

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power generator rationalisation

2010-09-03 Thread Tom Chance
will look at updating existing data in OpenStreetMap. I am currently working on a groundbreaking map of this for London: http://tom.acrewoods.net/2010/08/28/low-carbon-power-in-openstreetmap Regards, Tom Chance -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance

[Tagging] Relation for saying x is attached to y?

2010-08-29 Thread Tom Chance
Hi there, I want a way of creating an object for an energy generator and then saying this is on top of / inside this building object. Here is an example of one such object: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/35802300 I checked on the wiki page and couldn't see any established or proposed

Re: [Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)

2010-08-28 Thread Tom Chance
On 28 August 2010 04:30, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: Is there a plan to convert the existing data? I thought about that, but I'm not sure how to proceed. Any advice is welcome! I could, of course, just download all data tagged with the old

[Tagging] Semicolons? (was Re: RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features))

2010-08-27 Thread Tom Chance
Martin, Thank you for the feedback. One quick question for the list... On 26 August 2010 18:22, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: the suggested semicolon for combinations is never evaluated by any application (AFAIK). I have been told two different things, now. Do we use

Re: [Tagging] Semicolons? (was Re: RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features))

2010-08-27 Thread Tom Chance
On 27 August 2010 10:49, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I would not recommend to design a proposal where it is predictable that multiple values to one key will occur in this way. I was told that it is unlikely that multiple values will be taken into account because this is

[Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Chance
. Hopefully it shouldn't need too much extra tweaking following existing discussions. Regards, Tom Chance -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Chance
Thank you for these comments, André, I have updated the wiki page with some amendments: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/generator_rationalisation On 26 August 2010 13:43, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: The word 'generator:' is better than 'power:', but it is

Re: [Tagging] Is cycleway:right=lane necessary on a one-way street?

2010-08-18 Thread Tom Chance
On 17 August 2010 22:13, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-08-17 12:08, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I know that there are some bike lanes on the left side, but is there any real benefit to tagging cycleway:right=lane rather than cycleway=lane

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

2010-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
On 16 August 2010 21:08, André Riedel riedel.an...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/16 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: Basically I have deprecated power_type=photovoltaic and power_type=solar-thermal, which combine two bits of information (source of energy, and type of energy generated). This also

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

2010-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
enthusiasts want to change the name of the first proposal to Proposed_features/power_output and do something with the deprecated proposal currently occupying that URL, be my guest! Regards, Tom Chance On 17 August 2010 08:44, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: On 16 August 2010 21:08, André

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Energy generator power types

2010-08-17 Thread Tom Chance
On 17 August 2010 12:56, Vincent Pottier vpott...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/08/2010 12:59, Tom Chance wrote: Just to help summarise, with these proposals we end up with: power=generator (the starting point) power_rating (to specify the watts generated) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki