On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 20:29, Paul Allen wrote:
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> Wikipedia is not noted for its consistency. From
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstention
>
> Abstentions do not count in tallying the vote negatively or positively; when
> members abstain, they are in effect attending only to contribute to
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 18:56, Markus wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 15:06, Paul Allen wrote:
> >
> > However, despite the option being labelled an abstention, it is NOT an
> abstention.
> > Technically, it is a "spoiled ballot." Spoiled ballots DO contribute to
> a quorum in
> > most voting
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 15:06, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> However, despite the option being labelled an abstention, it is NOT an
> abstention.
> Technically, it is a "spoiled ballot." Spoiled ballots DO contribute to a
> quorum in
> most voting systems. [...]
Really? Wikipedia says [1]:
In voting,
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 08:34, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
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> I see, so now the abstentions will not count for the voting result in any
> way, not even for the quorum.
>
That is the technical meaning of "abstention."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstention
An abstention is when no vote is cast
Am Do., 27. Feb. 2020 um 08:34 Uhr schrieb Andrew Davidson <
thesw...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, 27 Feb. 2020, 08:22 Martin Koppenhoefer,
> wrote:
>
>>
>> can you explain with the amended rules what the outcome would be for
>>
>> 8 votes yes, 0 no, 1 abstention
>>
>
> That is 8 unanimous approval
On Thu, 27 Feb. 2020, 08:22 Martin Koppenhoefer,
wrote:
>
> can you explain with the amended rules what the outcome would be for
>
> 8 votes yes, 0 no, 1 abstention
>
That is 8 unanimous approval votes so it is passed.
8 votes yes, 1 no, 1 abstention
Didn't reach the required quorum of 10
Note that "adding no vote may
turn failing vote into a passing vote"
is a separate issue.
26 Feb 2020, 22:21 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg
>> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone else want to add their comments or votes there? This
sent from a phone
> On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone else want to add their comments or votes there? This seems
> to be a rough consensus now.
can you explain with the amended rules what the outcome would be for
8 votes yes, 0 no, 1 abstention
8
sent from a phone
> On 26. Feb 2020, at 09:15, Joseph Eisenberg
> wrote:
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> After 2 weeks, the discussion at Talk:Proposal_process shows 10 people
> in favor of considering an abstention the same as not voting, except
> for the quorum, and 1 opposed:
>
After 2 weeks, the discussion at Talk:Proposal_process shows 10 people
in favor of considering an abstention the same as not voting, except
for the quorum, and 1 opposed:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposal_process#Clarify_whatever_explicit_abstaining_is_the_same_as_no_vote
"In
Am Fr., 14. Feb. 2020 um 10:43 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Martin,
>
> According to wikipedia
>
> "Abstentions do not *count* in tallying the *vote* negatively or
> positively; when members *abstain*, they are in effect attending only to
> contribute
Hi Martin,
According to wikipedia
"Abstentions do not *count* in tallying the *vote* negatively or
positively; when members *abstain*, they are in effect attending only to
contribute to a quorum. "
Do you think abstention should be equivalent to a no vote for the final
tally ?
Best regards,
Am Do., 13. Feb. 2020 um 08:37 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>:
> An opinion from an OSM neophyte
>
> Abstain should mean just that .. either no vote .. or a blank vote..
>
which is a great difference according to how we count. We used to count it
as "blank
An opinion from an OSM neophyte
Abstain should mean just that .. either no vote .. or a blank vote..
It is important to understand why someone chooses to abstain instead of
voting against a proposal.
An abstainer has serious reservations about a specific detail of the
proposal, but believes the
Hi,
There is an ongoing discussion to clarify if whatever explicit
abstaining is the same as no vote during the process of approving a
proposal. [1] Please feel free to participate in the discussion.
Happy mapping.
Regards,
Daniel
[1]
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