Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

I found a way to move the wiki page without deleting and without the need for a new proposal (there is a hidden Move tab on the top of the page in a dropdown, if you're logged in). But there is a problem: Proposed features/Checkpoint is already taken. It's an abandoned one and it uses the key man_m

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > checkpoint=hiking or cycling or whatever else I kind of like this, as it has scope to be used for other purposes. > and instead of hiking_course=value course=value? Still don't like "course". The term "course" is mostly associated with co

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Oh, Gawd! I think you are right. So my newest proposal :) would be: checkpoint=hiking or cycling or whatever else and instead of hiking_course=value course=value? Zsolt On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:52 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/7/15 Zsolt Bertalan : > > No, I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

2011/7/15 Zsolt Bertalan : > No, I see it as a tourism feature. I don't want to introduce a new > namespace. The other tag (hiking_checkpoint=yes) is only needed in the rare > case if we already have a tourism tag. I agree to the others: don't propose 2 tags for the same thing. As you say, stampi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > OK, hiking_course sounds good to me too. > I understand that route, trail, etc could be applied also, but it sounds as > foreign and misleading to me as applying movement to you. But I am not a > native speaker, so that doesn't mean too much

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

OK, hiking_course sounds good to me too. I understand that route, trail, etc could be applied also, but it sounds as foreign and misleading to me as applying movement to you. But I am not a native speaker, so that doesn't mean too much. I will change the wiki page. Have a look at it, and tell me,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > That's why we can NOT call the THING a route, trail, walk, etc. THIS would > be confusing. "trail" gets used in this metaphorical way, and it's not that confusing. Here's an example: http://www.thebellarinetastetrail.com.au/ That perfectl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 7/17/11 3:28 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: ael wrote: Maybe you could use "course" because that is used in orienteering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering) for a series of checkpoints? But can also mean some sort of way. As a native English speaker, I think that might be acceptable. N

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

accreditation_scheme? accreditation_agency? promoter? On 17/07/2011 14:48, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: I see. Is hiking campaign better? On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:12 PM, John F. Eldredge > wrote: Zsolt Bertalan mailto:herrber...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Because ther

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

ael wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 05:23:37PM +0200, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > > I don't get it, why is it so hard to understand (not the movement > part, the > > route part). > > Maybe you could use "course" because that is used in orienteering > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering) > fo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 05:23:37PM +0200, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > I don't get it, why is it so hard to understand (not the movement part, the > route part). Maybe you could use "course" because that is used in orienteering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering) for a series of checkpoints? Bu

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

I don't get it, why is it so hard to understand (not the movement part, the route part). Let's call it a 'THING'. There are two types of THING. The first type (clearly the only one you now) consists of routes (walks, trails, etc.). The second type consists of only checkpoints. That's why we can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 17/07/2011 14:48, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: I see. Is hiking campaign better? Not really. Trying to co-opt English words that have other meanings doesn't really help. You mentioned "http://www.trail-blaze.com/race-finder.asp?clear=1"; earlier; that calls the things that I think that you're

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

I see. Is hiking campaign better? On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:12 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > > > Because there is no difference. What is the difference between a rugby > > match > > and a rugby union match? Nothing. Both of them are a rugby match. But > > rugby > > union

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > Because there is no difference. What is the difference between a rugby > match > and a rugby union match? Nothing. Both of them are a rugby match. But > rugby > union match is more specific. > In this case we need the general term. > There are TMs that are not routes. They

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Because there is no difference. What is the difference between a rugby match and a rugby union match? Nothing. Both of them are a rugby match. But rugby union match is more specific. In this case we need the general term. There are TMs that are not routes. They consist of checkpoints that you can v

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > Is Themed Walk better than Tourism Movement or you just accept that it's a > thing coming from the Eastern Block and adopt the term for it? Heh...no one will ever understand what "tourism_movement" is meant to mean. Let's keep looking for t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Hi, I forgot about the fact, that El Camino and the Countrywide Blue Tour are also Tourism Movements. I have links in the proposal. CBT has one route, El Camino has several. So a TM can have several, one or none designated route. I consider the individual trails on trail-blaze.com as Tourism Movem

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

It's not an organisation. It's a permanent contest (event, thing) organised by an organisation. An organisation can start several such movements. The Hungarian Ramblers's Association has more than a hundred with thousands of checkpoints. It's also a brochure with checkpoints (and usually a route) a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 15/07/2011 23:17, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: Just read my message further. I did. You said "Any organisation or association can start a tourism movement (TM).". That's why I asked for an example, to enable a bit of googling. Are you talking about something like the VVV in Holland, or the Ra

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

SomeoneElse wrote: > On 15/07/2011 22:52, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > > I couldn't find anything better than tourism movement. I realise > that > > although in english it is frequently used, it has a more general > > meaning, like propagation of countryside tourism, hiking, etc. > > I'm English an

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Just read my message further. Basically you get a brochure at the start for the stamps or codes and at the end you get a badge for visiting all the checkpoints. On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 11:57 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: > On 15/07/2011 22:52, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > >> I couldn't find anything better t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 15/07/2011 22:52, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: I couldn't find anything better than tourism movement. I realise that although in english it is frequently used, it has a more general meaning, like propagation of countryside tourism, hiking, etc. I'm English and don't have a clue what "tourism movem

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

I couldn't find anything better than tourism movement. I realise that although in english it is frequently used, it has a more general meaning, like propagation of countryside tourism, hiking, etc. I found "hiker's movement", but also only on Hungary related pages. Is this any better? I think you w

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 15/07/2011 18:50, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, fly mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com>> wrote: Am 15.07.2011 15:18, schrieb Craig Wallace: > On 15/07/2011 13:01, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: >> Hi! >> >> This proposal is to replace the old Stamping

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM, fly wrote: > Am 15.07.2011 15:18, schrieb Craig Wallace: > > On 15/07/2011 13:01, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: > >> Hi! > >> > >> This proposal is to replace the old Stamping Point proposal. > >> > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hiking_checkpoint

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Am 15.07.2011 15:18, schrieb Craig Wallace: > On 15/07/2011 13:01, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: >> Hi! >> >> This proposal is to replace the old Stamping Point proposal. >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hiking_checkpoint >> >> I'm not sure if the wording of the checkpoint type se

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

On 15/07/2011 13:01, Zsolt Bertalan wrote: Hi! This proposal is to replace the old Stamping Point proposal. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hiking_checkpoint I'm not sure if the wording of the checkpoint type section is correct. Do you now about other validation methods? A

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hiking_checkpoint

Hi! This proposal is to replace the old Stamping Point proposal. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hiking_checkpoint I'm not sure if the wording of the checkpoint type section is correct. Do you now about other validation methods? Also the tourism_movement tag now overlaps wit