Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-03 Thread fly
Am 02.11.2013 20:43, schrieb Fernando Trebien: I know that in Germany and in Argentina roads are being classified based primarily on administration level (national, regional, city, etc.). Classifying like this probably works well when the entire road system is well maintained. In Brazil,

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-03 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello fly, Thank you for your concern. I'm glad we agree that classification is a hard topic sometimes. First, the graph is intended for mapping within Brazil and not overseas. I don't wanna delve too deeply in the details of our discussion (it would probably be long, boring and maybe only

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-03 Thread fly
Hi Fernando Still think you should not change the meaning of a key but use an new/own key or even only a subkey for the other existing values considering living_street. Actually, I am in favour of deprecating living_street as it is already used for too many different cases and wrong in concept

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-03 Thread Fernando Trebien
If we use a new key, no apps would support it, until the Brazilian community grows enough to start building its own apps. Indeed, as discussions progressed, we began associating importance primarily with traffic intensity and less with city connectivity. But again, we would have to measure

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-03 Thread Fernando Trebien
+1 (similar to our discussion here in Brazil) On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Jonathan bigfatfro...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if I've not seen the old posts on this, the wiki pages are contradictory which is why I asked the question. In the UK we are defining Trunk or Primary based on some

[Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Jonathan
This question is really aimed at UK roads but the same may apply to other countries. I'm not clear with the distinction of a Trunk road in the UK. The wiki suggests a trunk road is high performance roads that don't meet the requirement for highway

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Hill
On 02/11/13 18:47, Jonathan wrote: This question is really aimed at UK roads but the same may apply to other countries. I'm not clear with the distinction of a Trunk road in the UK. The wiki suggests a trunk road is high performance roads that don't meet the requirement for highway

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Fernando Trebien
I know that in Germany and in Argentina roads are being classified based primarily on administration level (national, regional, city, etc.). Classifying like this probably works well when the entire road system is well maintained. In Brazil, however, we had tons of discussions on how to do it and

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 02/nov/2013 um 20:43 schrieb Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: I know that in Germany and in Argentina roads are being classified based primarily on administration level (national, regional, city, etc.). in Germany they are not, don't know about Argentinia. The basic

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hm I may have misread about Germany then. The mais problem we discussed here in Brazil is getting everyone to agree with some vague subjective sense of importance, specially when deciding between two somewhat similar classifications (such as between secondary and tertiary). On Sat, Nov 2, 2013

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/2 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com Hm I may have misread about Germany then. The mais problem we discussed here in Brazil is getting everyone to agree with some vague subjective sense of importance, specially when deciding between two somewhat similar classifications (such

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: btw, IMHO secondary are more similar to primaries than they are to tertiaries, as both are long range connections, while tertiaries aren't generally long range connections. Brazilians could also decide that

Re: [Tagging] Primary or Trunk?

2013-11-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/11/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com btw, IMHO secondary are more similar to primaries than they are to tertiaries, as both are long range connections, while tertiaries aren't generally long range connections. Brazilians could also decide that they don't need trunk because they don't have