Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-23 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Tagging proposals do not have the power to "deprecate" existing tags, > and I have changed the wiki pages accordingly. Using the wording "this > tag has now been deprecated" always leads to someone trying to make a > mass change but we don'

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 23.11.2013 11:33, bredy wrote: > but why is not possible to change all the sub_station in substation if the > old value is deprecated? Tagging proposals do not have the power to "deprecate" existing tags, and I have changed the wiki pages accordingly. Using the wording "this tag has now be

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-23 Thread François Lacombe
It's a good thing to have a look to each sub_station feature. It allows use to add substation=*, location=*, voltage=* and a few more at the same time. Which improve a lot our dataset. If we automatically replace all sub_station power values, we won't be able to distinguish "old" from "new" featu

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-23 Thread bredy
but why is not possible to change all the sub_station in substation if the old value is deprecated? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Substation-proposal-approved-and-a-suggestion-for-a-post-vote-change-tp5781224p5786932.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list arch

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-11-17 Thread Ole Nielsen
I have now introduced a specific attribute for small substations: substation=minor_distribution. It is exclusively to be used on the 'last level' of transformation to low voltage line voltage (400 volt in Europe). This should address the desire to have an unambiguous way of tagging small kiosk-

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-16 Thread François Lacombe
Ok. So I will move to line=junction_box et line=marker (like pipeline=valve and pipeline=marker). Thank you. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2013/10/16 Ole Nielsen > On 16/10/2013 20:57, François Lacombe wrote: > >> I was wonde

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-16 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 16/10/2013 20:57, François Lacombe wrote: I was wondering if using line=* for busbars and bay is the best thing to do regarding of what line=* is commonly used for : http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=line There are busbar and bay obviously but many other values dealing with public tr

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-16 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, I was wondering if using line=* for busbars and bay is the best thing to do regarding of what line=* is commonly used for : http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=line There are busbar and bay obviously but many other values dealing with public transport. Thus, and I'm sorry to suggest t

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-15 Thread François Lacombe
Render update ticket has been created on git hub : https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/230 Cheers. *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2013/10/13 François Lacombe > > 2013/10/13 Ole Nielsen / osm > >> I sur

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-13 Thread François Lacombe
2013/10/13 Ole Nielsen / osm > I surely wouldn't associate CERN with "distribution". They may have their > own internal industrial distribution network but "substation=industrial" > is more appropriate for such internal facilities. > +1 substation=industrial > The idea behind "transmission" an

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-13 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
> 2013/10/12 Martin Koppenhoefer >> >> 2013/10/12 Ole Nielsen / osm >> >>> I propose to change the meaning of "substation=distribution" to be used >>> only on substations at the last level of voltage transforming, thus the >>> small street-level transformer kiosks etc supplied with medium voltage

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-12 Thread François Lacombe
2013/10/12 Martin Koppenhoefer > > 2013/10/12 Ole Nielsen / osm > >> I propose to change the meaning of "substation=distribution" to be used >> only on substations at the last level of voltage transforming, thus the >> small street-level transformer kiosks etc supplied with medium voltage >> (ty

Re: [Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/10/12 Ole Nielsen / osm > I propose to change the meaning of "substation=distribution" to be used > only on substations at the last level of voltage transforming, thus the > small street-level transformer kiosks etc supplied with medium voltage > (typically 10-30 kV) and delivering low volta

[Tagging] Substation proposal approved - and a suggestion for a post-vote change

2013-10-12 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
The substation refinement proposal has been approved by a large majority of voters. The new feature page can be found here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation Afterwards I regret a bit that I didn't reserve a dedicated value in the substation=* tag for the small street level