There really is a time, place, realm to cleave a sensible split between public
and private. Choose the correct register, yes, please. Chill jets, everyone.
Mapping in public like we do has its difficulties.
Respect.
I know it takes time to work things out, so let's work things out!
I think we
17 paź 2020, 15:18 od tagging@openstreetmap.org:
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> On 17/10/2020 09:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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>> On 15. Oct 2020, at 15:12, Dave F via Tagging
>> wrote:
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>>> Please send all messages to the public forum Martin.
>>>
>>
>> I will write to whoever I want, not your business.
>>
>
>
On 17/10/2020 09:53, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 15. Oct 2020, at 15:12, Dave F via Tagging
wrote:
Please send all messages to the public forum Martin.
I will write to whoever I want, not your business.
Wow. The arrogant hypocrisy. (& v. short term memory)
You may already know it,
On 17/10/2020 10:00, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 15. Oct 2020, at 16:40, Dave F via Tagging
wrote:
Which negates any desire to change the meaning of railway=station
from "places where customers can access railway services or where
goods are loaded and unloaded."
I am perfectly fine
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 at 10:03, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
buffer kisser (not sure this term exists in English)
>
I've not encountered it (but there's a lot I don't know). This WIkipedia
article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railfan doesn't mention it either. One of the
few mentions I've found
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> On 15. Oct 2020, at 16:40, Dave F via Tagging
> wrote:
> Which negates any desire to change the meaning of railway=station from
> "places where customers can access railway services or where goods are loaded
> and unloaded."
I am perfectly fine with this definition, it
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> On 15. Oct 2020, at 15:12, Dave F via Tagging
> wrote:
>
> Please send all messages to the public forum Martin.
I will write to whoever I want, not your business.
You may already know it, but for the avoidance of doubt I’ll tell you again:
every thread and all
On 15/10/2020 11:01, OSM wrote:
Am 10.10.2020 um 00:35 schrieb Dave F via Tagging:
I edited a copy of the diagram (A-simple-station.svg) of a station
layout, primarily to remove any references to PTv2 tags, a completely
independent, duplicating tagging schema, irrelevant to anything to do
Please send all messages to the public forum Martin.
It was a post in reply to the topic.
Unlike a few train spotters in Germany I'm not scared to have all
discussions be public & a matter for record.
Please don't dictate over events on which you have no authority.
DaveF.
On 15/10/2020
Am 10.10.2020 um 00:35 schrieb Dave F via Tagging:
I edited a copy of the diagram (A-simple-station.svg) of a station
layout, primarily to remove any references to PTv2 tags, a completely
independent, duplicating tagging schema, irrelevant to anything to do
with the railway=station tag.
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> On 14. Oct 2020, at 15:44, Dave F via Tagging
> wrote:
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> Please send messages to forum, John.
from where are you citing here? A private email?
Can we please discuss publicly here, and keep private discussion private?
Thank you,
Cheers Martin
Please send messages to forum, John.
On 14/10/2020 03:17, John D. wrote:
unless you visit the platform or there is a visible sign how do you
know where the train stops ?
Unsure of the relevance of that to this discussion.
how is nodes better than area ?
Points have already been made.
On 11/10/2020 09:25, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
Including all this tracks feels ridiculous to me.
Agreed.
Over the past few years in the UK I've been maintaining/checking the
railway=station tag to ensure there are the correct number.
I've the changed the few that were mapped as areas to nodes
On 11/10/2020 08:16, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Are you mapping train stations as areas? From reading your replies
here the impression I get is you are advocating for not extending the
representation from a node to an area, right? I do not understand why
you are fighting so hard to make a tag
>> eventually they should all be upgraded to areas.
>>
>
> It appears mappers have decided that's not what's best.
>
>
I tried mapping some railway station as areas and I ended not doing this.
Either mapping would be quite arbitrary or include massive area that
is not really relevant.
For
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> On 10. Oct 2020, at 17:36, Dave F via Tagging
> wrote:
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> Why would train drivers, looking at OSM, need to have just a couple of
> signals enclosed inside a polygon?
did you already have the occasion to ask commuters in your part of the world
whether they believe the
On 10/10/2020 00:34, Andrew Harvey wrote:
I believe most of this discussion is moot as the *vast* majority of
railway=stations are mapped as nodes:
I don't think that makes the point moot since nodes are just a quick
first pass way to map a station,
railway=station is one of the
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> On 10. Oct 2020, at 00:35, Dave F
>
> I believe most of this discussion is moot as the *vast* majority of
> railway=stations are mapped as nodes:
> NodeWay Relation
> IT 2878400 15
> DE 438839 45
> FR 2553646 14
> JP 90635
There are times and places when / where "keeping plural tagging schemes" is a
smarter method to interpret OSM's data. (Many, in fact). Saying "this how we
should map" (being 'prescriptive') is not the same as wishful thinking. Being
'descriptive' and saying "this is how we do map" (as we
On Sat, 10 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Dave F wrote:
> Apologies for breaking the thread, but I was unable to connect to
> Tagging & missed the initial message in my email client.
>
> I'm the user in disagreement. (Although reading the current
> railway=station wiki page I'm not convinced there's an
Apologies for breaking the thread, but I was unable to connect to
Tagging & missed the initial message in my email client.
I'm the user in disagreement. (Although reading the current
railway=station wiki page I'm not convinced there's an genuine
alternative belief).
I believe most of this
Am Mi., 7. Okt. 2020 um 10:31 Uhr schrieb Andrew Harvey <
andrew.harv...@gmail.com>:
> In practice many are mapped as the same area, but that's usually only
> because unless you're a train operator it can be hard to actually survey
> where the station starts and ends from the train network point
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 at 18:42, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> I know we have already been discussing this several times in the past, but
> due to recent editing disagreements in the wiki, I am raising it again.
>
> For several years, we had railway=station on a way documented in the wiki
> as the
I know we have already been discussing this several times in the past, but
due to recent editing disagreements in the wiki, I am raising it again.
For several years, we had railway=station on a way documented in the wiki
as the complete area of a train station.
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