Re: [Tagging] Devices key

2017-09-29 0:42 GMT+02:00 François Lacombe : > 2017-09-28 19:27 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > >> >> from the wiki page I get the impression that the ":devices" is the same >> thing as the "_count", just less meaningful on a semantic level and

Re: [Tagging] tagging two former church locations, with the same name but unrelated to each other

So all 3 churches are actually physically in existence? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging two former church locations, with the same name but unrelated to each other

& I should have added: & operating? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

sent from a phone > On 29. Sep 2017, at 17:24, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > There are basically three possibilities: > > (1) An area object tagged as one of these facilities is presumed to represent > the boundaries of the grounds, unless explicitly tagged as a

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Hi, > > should only the hotel buildings be tagged with tourism=hotel or the whole > area that is owned by the hotel? > > I think if the hotel doesn't have more than one building, and if the hotel > grounds are not very big,

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

You're right, I missed this point. I've made some searches, the actual sentence of the wiki has been pu in February 2017 (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:tourism%3Dhotel=1432264) but if you look at the previous revision it was a little bit different:

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

sent from a phone > On 29. Sep 2017, at 17:18, Bryan Housel wrote: > > Be careful what you wish for! Here is a list of around 370 other feature > types that you will change the meaning of, if areas are always assumed to be > property outlines and not building

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

sent from a phone > On 29. Sep 2017, at 17:11, Bryan Housel wrote: > > If you draw a “Hotel” in iD, you’ll see that it gets a `building=yes` tag > added to it. > (Users can change this if they like). > > Again, this is exactly in agreement with what the osm wiki

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Bryan Housel wrote: > Yes, but the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dhotel > page says > "Set a node or draw as an area >

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

Be careful what you wish for! Here is a list of around 370 other feature types that you will change the meaning of, if areas are always assumed to be property outlines and not building outlines. https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93=building_area=

[Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

Hi, should only the hotel buildings be tagged with tourism=hotel or the whole area that is owned by the hotel? I think if the hotel doesn't have more than one building, and if the hotel grounds are not very big, or if they are accessible by public, only the building gets tagged. But if there are

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

Yes, but the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dhotel page says "Set a node or draw as an area along the building outline." This is how iD

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

If you draw a “Hotel” in iD, you’ll see that it gets a `building=yes` tag added to it. (Users can change this if they like). Again, this is exactly in agreement with what the osm wiki page for `tourism=hotel` says to do. > On Sep 29, 2017, at 11:06 AM, LeTopographeFou

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

sent from a phone > On 29. Sep 2017, at 16:50, Bryan Housel wrote: > > - somebody creates a challenge to cleanup the existing data that is not > tagged this way. it might require local knowledge in many occasions though to fix this. I wouldn’t see this as a

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

sent from a phone > On 29. Sep 2017, at 16:50, Bryan Housel wrote: > > So if we collectively decide to change `tourism=*` tags to be property > outlines (like hospitals and schools), +1, I’d see it like this for all “functions”, regardless of the key (amenity,

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

This is how iD interprets the tag - as a building outline. I disagree, when you look for "Hotel" iD proposes both "Hotel" (in gray which means it is an area in the iD codes) and "Building Hotel" (in red and with a building picture which both means it is a building). Same for Hospitals. For

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On 29.09.2017 17:18, Bryan Housel wrote: AFAIK (from memory) the notable exceptions are schools/universities, hospitals, gas stations, and power substations. There is no reason to treat that as exception, vice versa, if any facility has a campus, the tag describing the facility belongs on the

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 17:02:37 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 29. Sep 2017, at 16:50, Bryan Housel > > wrote: > > > > So if we collectively decide to change `tourism=*` tags to be > > property outlines (like hospitals

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Mark Wagner wrote: > It's reasonable to map a hotel as any of > > 1) A point [...]. > 2) A building [...]. 3) An area [...]. > I don't think anyone here is arguing that point. All three are reasonable. But note that a building is also a

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On 29/09/2017 15:50, Bryan Housel wrote: - somebody fixes the wiki (well somebody should do this anyway as it currently says 2 different things) Only 2?  That's something of a bonus, I'd say :) Seriously though, both mechanisms are in wide use for things that take up a bit more space than

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 20:42 Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Mark Wagner > wrote: > > A renderer - any conceivable renderer, not just the default renderer - > to do a good job needs to decide "is this area a building, or is

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On 29.09.2017 21:03, Janko Mihelić wrote An item is a building only if it has a tag building={anything other than no}. It's pretty simple. Absolutely. On 29.09.2017 20:40, Kevin Kenny wrote: > ... update the Wiki to indicate that an area > feature should represent the hotel's entire facility

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

> that’s many shops, crafts, offices and similar stuff. I think it’s already > common practice to include the grounds if any are present (for smaller ones > there won’t often be any grounds anyway, and most of them are probably mapped > as nodes anyway) Disagree. It probably depends on

Re: [Tagging] Public wifi

Thanks for that Marc & Warin I didn't notice that tag, buried down under "Properties" :-( Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Mapping hotels on buildings or areas around buildings

On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, 01:46 Neil Matthews wrote: > I guess keep the name/address on the main building/reception or on an > entrance node -- adding it to the landuse (grounds) will just "weaken" > routing (may make the rendering confusing too)? > > I think it would be good to