Re: [Tagging] shop=shoe_repair

2018-06-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 at 22:27, Paul Allen wrote: > > 3) A place where shoes are repaired. The name for a person who does this > is cobbler. > In Australia at least, these sort of "shops" are frequently located in a kiosk in the middle of a shopping centre, where they repair shoes, cut keys, do

Re: [Tagging] PTv1 <> PTv2

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-06-24 1:20 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > Hello, > > Le 22. 06. 18 à 15:37, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > is there a benefit from it? > > try to map a multimodal station bus+train+tram > with one building + one platform with PTv1 > the extend for the station is not the same for a bus and a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno dom, 24/06/2018 alle 21.15 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > > > these are all sports "properties" that need to be combined with a tag > describing the physical object, if we introduce a specific leisure > value for racing facilities, it could make sense to include other >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Yves
Some of these are already covered, I guess. See piste:type for winter sports, for instance, but I'm pretty sure horse tracks have already a scheme. Yves ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread osm.tagging
I remember about 20 years ago when I was still living in Germany I regularly went to a shop that was selling (mostly) food stuff "from the pallet", sometimes with slight transport damage (cans with dents, that type of thing). That's what I would expect to find for a shop=discount >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno dom, 24/06/2018 alle 19.32 +0100, Paul Allen ha scritto: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi ail.com> wrote: > > The main reason because I excluded non-motorised sports is because > > many of them seem to have an already established way of mapping. > > All this

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-06-24 20:08 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse : > Hi > > No, a discount shop isn't the same as a a variety shop. > +1, it could be seen as a variant of small supermarket or convenience store. I have also asked myself in the past if we make these a new kind of shop or add a discounter=yes flag or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-06-24 20:16 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi : > The main reason because I excluded non-motorised sports is because many of > them seem to have an already established way of mapping. > All this pages mention sports_centre and stadium as physical tag > combination for related facilities: > >

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Hi, I have already RFC-ed this proposal in 2016 but it remained there. I would like to go to the voting stage, please check it. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Dracetra ck Lorenzo___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Selfish Seahorse
Hi No, a discount shop isn't the same as a a variety shop. To cite Wikipedia [^1]: > A discount store or discount shop is a retail shop which sells products at > prices that are lower than the typical market price. > > [...] > > Discount stores/shops are not variety stores, which sell goods at

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
Ok.. I’ve decided after talking to a few more people about this that I’m going to just support things in iD the best I can, and pull back from tagging discussions. Thanks, Bryan > On Jun 24, 2018, at 11:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > >> On 24. Jun

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi wrote: > > I have already RFC-ed this proposal in 2016 but it remained there. > I would like to go to the voting stage, please check it. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Dracetrack > > My vote is no. Because

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 7:16 PM, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi wrote: > > The main reason because I excluded non-motorised sports is because many of > them seem to have an already established way of mapping. > All this pages mention sports_centre and stadium as physical tag > combination for related

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jun 2018, at 22:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > It sounds like any type of shop may have discount shop variation. usually the term discount shop refers to shops selling food “from the pallet”, i.e. a smaller selection and less laborious presentation, tending to

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jun 2018, at 16:19, Bryan Housel wrote: > > I can’t be any more clear than this: > > I will support `covered=yes/no` as a checkbox. > I will support `booth=*` as a dropdown > I won’t support `covered=booth` . that’s all fine, but you should not retag the

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Peter Elderson
I would call both "dumps". 2018-06-24 20:08 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse : > Hi > > No, a discount shop isn't the same as a a variety shop. To cite Wikipedia > [^1]: > > > A discount store or discount shop is a retail shop which sells products > at prices that are lower than the typical market

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
24. Jun 2018 20:08 by selfishseaho...@gmail.com : > Hi > > No, a discount shop isn't the same as a a variety shop. To cite Wikipedia > [^1]: > >> A discount store or discount shop is a retail shop which sells products at >> prices that are lower than the

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread osm.tagging
I was more thinking about the possibility of mapping above ground phone/data cables. Not sure if any of them are strung on what could be considered a “tower” or if it’s always a “pole”… So while there currently is primarily a power=tower + tower:type=* I could see something like

[Tagging] shop=shoe_repair

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
As part of processinghttps://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset/issues/35 I encountered shop=shoe_repair https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dshoe_repair

Re: [Tagging] shop=health

2018-06-24 Thread osm.tagging
The first thing that came to mind when reading shop=health is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_food_store Not sure what the appropriate tag for that is. I agree that shop=health is very ambiguous. From: Mateusz Konieczny Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2018 19:15 To: Tagging Subject:

Re: [Tagging] shop=health

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It appears that shop=health_food is relatively popular. I added it to synonyms. 24. Jun 2018 11:48 by osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au : > > The first thing that came to mind when reading shop=health is: > >   > >

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
23. Jun 2018 15:44 by osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au : > > Not in any way involved with power mapping, but I don’t think tower:type > should have necessarily any implications about what it is that’s being > transmitted over the suspended cables. >

[Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I described it onhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Ddiscount as a clear duplicate of more popular shop=variety_store See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Ddiscount=1621726=1340500

[Tagging] shop=health

2018-06-24 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I described it on wiki as a poor idea as quite obviously this tag is really unclear. Hopefully nobody thinks that this tag is a good idea. It is unclear whatever shop=medical_supply or amenity=pharmacy or shop=herbalistmeaning was intended. If someone is aware about more potential meanings or

Re: [Tagging] shop=shoe_repair

2018-06-24 Thread marc marc
Le 24. 06. 18 à 11:21, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > As part of processing > https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset/issues/35 > I encountered shop=shoe_repair > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dshoe_repair had imho this sentence need to be changed "(shop) place

Re: [Tagging] shop=discount

2018-06-24 Thread Warin
On 25/06/18 06:17, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 24. Jun 2018, at 22:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: It sounds like any type of shop may have discount shop variation. usually the term discount shop refers to shops selling food “from the pallet”, i.e. a smaller selection

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Jun 2018, at 01:35, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > type say nothing about what is being documented. I agree, but many mappers love it ;-) cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > Ok.. > I’ve decided after talking to a few more people about this that I’m going to > just support things in iD the best I can, and pull back from tagging > discussions. > > "just support things" sounds fine, if this means adding

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread Warin
On 24/06/18 23:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 24. Jun 2018, at 13:15, François Lacombe > wrote: It is documented here for now, but would deserve a specific wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtower#Tower_type

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=racetrack

2018-06-24 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno dom, 24/06/2018 alle 17.42 +0100, Paul Allen ha scritto: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi ail.com> wrote: > > I have already RFC-ed this proposal in 2016 but it remained there.I > > would like to go to the voting stage, please check it.https://wiki. > >

Re: [Tagging] shop=shoe_repair

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > In Australia at least, these sort of "shops" are frequently located in a > kiosk in the middle of a shopping centre, where they repair shoes, cut > keys, do engraving, replace watch & remote batteries etc. > Around here they tend

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-06-24 18:01 GMT+02:00 Bryan Housel : > Ok.. > I’ve decided after talking to a few more people about this that I’m going > to just support things in iD the best I can, and pull back from tagging > discussions. > "just support things" sounds fine, if this means adding support for established

Re: [Tagging] shop=shoe_repair

2018-06-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > As part of processing > https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset/issues/35 > I encountered shop=shoe_repair > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dshoe_repair had > > "It is unclear, whether this tag should be

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jun 2018, at 13:15, François Lacombe wrote: > > It is documented here for now, but would deserve a specific wiki page > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtower#Tower_type it should be added to the tower:type key summary page as well. Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Craig Wallace
On 2018-06-18 21:00, Bryan Housel wrote: *Proposal:* I’d like to drop `covered=booth` as a suggested tag, as it’s superfluous.  If the telephone feature has `booth=yes` or `booth=K6` you know it’s a booth.  Then we’re not repurposing the `covered=*` for a thing that it doesn’t normally do in

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread François Lacombe
Hi all, tower:type=suspension means that conductors or lines (not specific to power) are just linked by vertical insulator. Like this : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Einebenenmast.jpg It is opposed to tower:type=anchor which means that conductors or lines are stopped on the tower Like

Re: [Tagging] tower:type=suspension

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jun 2018, at 00:21, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > When I first see tower:type I think of how it is constructed .. not its > function. > > > So for me it should be tower:function=* > for bridges, “bridge” and bridge:structure are used. The function

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 23. Jun 2018, at 18:39, Bryan Housel wrote: > > "Consensus on list is that covered=booth offers no additional information > over booth=* and conflicts with existing semantics for covered=yes/no. We'll > replace all instances of covered=booth with covered=yes and add a

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Jun 2018, at 00:55, Bryan Housel wrote: > > The only features I’m modifying have the tags `amenity=telephone` and > `covered=booth`. > I will change `covered=booth` to `covered=yes` > I will add a tag `booth=yes` but only if there is not already an existing >

Re: [Tagging] drop covered=booth?

2018-06-24 Thread Bryan Housel
> On Jun 24, 2018, at 9:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > what about modifying all booth=yes on telephones to covered=booth ? No. That’s the exact opposite of what I’m trying to achieve. I feel like you might not have read very carefully any of the emails that I’ve sent on the