Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 07:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus wrote: > > > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle > > isn't allowed. So it seems just logical to use a new tag for places > > where pushing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Pedestrian lane

At the risk of going down a rabbit hole, I'm going to suggest some ways to think about this that will hopefully spark some discussion related how this tag could be used with pedestrian navigation. ## Similarities to shoulders and an opportunity to figure out how to tag them. Would it be fair to

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 06/11/19 09:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 07:23, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus mailto:selfishseaho...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

sent from a phone > On 6. Nov 2019, at 01:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does motor_vehicle=no mean I can push one though there? I did think not ... > at least not on a regular basis indeed, moto_vehicle=no does not prevent you from pushing your motorcycle. Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

I live in a single family home with a shared driveway.  The next door neighbor house is 7 meters from my house.  The driveway is about 10 meters shared, then it splits, about 10 meters to each garage.    If it were mapped, I think it should be tagged as driveway, but I don't think it's

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

> do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle is not > allowed? What about pushing a broken bicycle? Carrying a bicycle? > Monocycles? Tricycles? Pushing big boxes? Wearing a red hat? > I would be interested to see a law discriminating particularly against > pushing bicycles. >

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 17:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle is not allowed? > What about pushing a broken bicycle? Carrying a bicycle? Monocycles? > Tricycles? Pushing big boxes? Wearing a red hat? > I would be interested to see a

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 18:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > This a well-known (small) problem that from time to time turns up in OSM > discussions. And then the discussion fizzles out again. Which is also a well-known problem ... I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

5 Nov 2019, 17:27 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> On the page I claim that >> "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, >> there is no good tagging scheme to indicate it." >> and I want to

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

This a well-known (small) problem that from time to time turns up in OSM discussions. And then the discussion fizzles out again. On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 18:20, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 5 Nov 2019, 17:27 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > > sent from a phone > > On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01,

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

Bicycles are prohibited entirely in USA federal Wilderness areas, along with all other machinery. - Joseph E On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 6:23 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus wrote: > > > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > do you have an example for a street where pushing the bicycle > is not allowed? Potentially every public footpath in England & Wales. The law says only that "usual accompaniments" are permitted, without specifying them. Cycling organisations try to argue that this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:05, Valor Naram wrote: > >  > Hey, > > it's over. I closed the vote with 61 votes against and 46 votes for my > proposal. My proposal has been rejected by community members: >

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

On Tue, 2019-11-05 at 09:41 -0700, brad wrote: > I live in a single family home with a shared driveway. The next > door > neighbor house is 7 meters from my house. The driveway is about 10 > meters shared, then it splits, about 10 meters to each garage.If > it > were mapped, I think it

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 18:48, Markus wrote: > > I guess that bicycle=no almost always means that *driving* a bicycle > isn't allowed. So it seems just logical to use a new tag for places > where pushing (or transporting) bicycles isn't allowed too. Maybe > bicycle=total_ban or

[Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. On the page I claim that "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle,

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 05/11/2019 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. On the page I claim that "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, there is no good

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/11/2019 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount > > to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. > > > > On the page I claim that > > "In

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (phone)

Hey, it's over. I closed the vote with 61 votes against and 46 votes for my proposal. My proposal has been rejected by community members: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discussions/tagging/contact:phone_or_phone -- Cheers ~ Sören Reinecke alias Valor Naram Developer of the Babykarte -

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 05/11/2019 13:11, Andy Townsend wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65663472 (Meir Tunnel, dry even on a wet Wednesday in Stoke*) bans foot and bicycle traffic, so you can neither walk nor cycle through it.  A cycle router would have to flat-out avoid it, whereas it may choose not

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > > > On 05/11/2019 13:11, Andy Townsend wrote: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65663472 (Meir Tunnel, dry even on a > > wet Wednesday in Stoke*) bans foot and bicycle traffic, so you can > > neither walk nor cycle through it. A

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

I’d like to add gated communities: these are completely private settlements, with restricted access, but there is still a road hierarchy that may merit more distinction than just service with and without a driveway qualifier (i.e. we’ll usually solve these with access restrictions). For me a

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

sent from a phone > On 5. Nov 2019, at 14:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On the page I claim that > "In some places it is illegal to both ride and push bicycle, > there is no good tagging scheme to indicate it." > and I want to check is it correct. do you have an example for a street

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

Personally, I would only call the short bits of tarmac that spur off that service road as 'driveways' because they each go to a single house. I'm sure that there are examples of shared driveways in the UK but I would consider them rare. On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 1:52 PM Dave F via Tagging wrote: >

[Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

Hi In the UK, Amazon Logistics are adding useful data from their GPS'd delivery vehicles. Mainly highway=service as the last part of their journey to a destination. However, one of their contributors removed service=driveway from a highway=service road. In the changeset comments they said

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

I think of a driveway as typically leading to only one house, and would generally call the shared ones something else, probably "service roads". I'd make an exception for the access to a pair of houses e.g. semi-detached, or adjacent but linked by their garages/carports. __John On Tue, Nov 5,

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

Sections of shared, non-public service road, are certainly a common feature of modern housing developments. I have considered them to be private driveways. Private does not require a sign, walk down any suburban street in Europe or North America and you will see hundreds of driveways, without

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 14:54, John Sturdy wrote: > I think of a driveway as typically leading to only one house, > Usually. There are exceptions, such as where there's a gateway to a drive that was originally for a single house but a new house was later built on the grounds. > and would