On 1/17/2012 6:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/1/17 Maarten Deenmd...@xs4all.nl:
On 2012-01-16 23:27, Robin Paulson wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407lon=174.741523zoom=19
the landuse polygon has an orange highlight on it, why does it do that?
Just a hint on
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 1/17/2012 6:28 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/1/17 Maarten Deenmd...@xs4all.nl:
On 2012-01-16 23:27, Robin Paulson wrote:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407lon=174.741523zoom=19
the landuse polygon has an orange
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 17/01/2012 03:31, Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:30 AM, John Sturdyjcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand access=no as meaning no *public* access, but perhaps
that is better covered by access=private.
On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
I find it useless to map such wide areas as landuses. There's no point
in tagging a whole village's area as landuse=residential, and there's
no point in making a sixty-km-wide polygon to indicate that between
Parma and Reggio Emilia there's cultivated
2012/1/17 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
A public right of way with a sign that says no horses or
no bicycles or buses only does not. Permission is not given out
*on an individual basis*.
The buses only-case has to be examined with care. In our current
datamodel sidewalks are implicitly part of the
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Simone Saviolo
simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote:
I find it useless to map such wide areas as landuses. There's no point
in tagging a whole village's area as landuse=residential, and there's
no point in making a sixty-km-wide polygon to indicate that between
Parma
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and taxis?
Is this a common grouping in the UK?
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2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
I'm not suggesting either of these. But a single chunk of houses is clearly
all residential, whether it's the size of a few lots or a huge subdivision.
+1. public streets are not part of it. Have a look
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
The buses only-case has to be examined with care. In our current
datamodel sidewalks are implicitly part of the road (at least most
people read it like this), so access=no, psv=yes (or bus=yes) might be
wrong.
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
I find it useless to map such wide areas as landuses. There's no point
in tagging a whole village's area as landuse=residential, and there's
no point in making a sixty-km-wide polygon to indicate that
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and taxis? Is
this a common grouping in the UK?
I don't know about other places, but at least in Italy it's
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and
taxis? Is this a common grouping in the UK?
Are there examples of places where taxis can't
2012/1/17 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and
taxis? Is this a common grouping in the UK?
Regarding Landuse=residential I do not agree with the approach of the two
examples
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=45.301967lon=8.444596zoom=18
Apart from the aspect of overcrowding any map produced from this data, it
is
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
Are there examples of places where taxis can't use a bus lane?
Maybe the approaches to a bus station. And certainly within some bus
stations, although you might not count that as a bus lane.
__John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and
taxis? Is this a
2012/1/17 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and
taxis? Is this a common grouping in the UK?
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:
Regarding Landuse=residential I do not agree with the approach of the two
examples
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=45.301967lon=8.444596zoom=18
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway
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2012/1/17 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
Apart from the aspect of overcrowding any map produced from this data,
what do you mean? In lower zoom levels it looks exactly the same:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.32655lon=-119.07474zoom=15layers=M
and in closeups you get the detail that
On 1/17/2012 8:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
Splitting it at roads gives no benefit and complicates editing greatly. This
is just ridiculous:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18
how does that complicate
On 1/17/2012 9:10 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 08:34:48AM -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and
taxis? Is this a common grouping in the UK?
Are
On 17/01/2012 14:20, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Colin Smalecolin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
On 17/01/2012 03:31, Anthony wrote:
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:30 AM, John Sturdyjcg.stu...@gmail.comwrote:
I understand access=no as meaning no *public* access, but perhaps
that
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
But why punch out the land
taken up by road right-of-way within the subdivision?
Because the land is used (and zoned) for a different purpose.
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On 1/17/2012 10:00 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
But why punch out the land
taken up by road right-of-way within the subdivision?
Because the land is used (and zoned) for a different purpose.
A residential street is used for
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/1/17 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
it is
simply not helpful from a practical point of view. What additional
information do I gain from excluding the road from the landuse area, it is
anyway clear that
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Forgive me, you used the phrase publicly owned and I jumped to the
conclusion you were talking about land owned by {local,central} governments,
and there is plenty of that, much of which is off-limits to the general
you get the border between public and private land. Why is that not
helpful or interesting?
I think this is the basic point of my objection: I believe that OSM maps
what is out there, not what is legally defined in some document to which we
normally have no access.
I am interested surely in
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/17/2012 10:00 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
But why punch out the land
taken up by road right-of-way within the subdivision?
Because the land
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
In my
experience, the property line is not at the curb, but some distance
back from the curb. A reserved area is held for utilities, road
expansion, snowplow debris, etc.
Depends a lot on the jurisdiction (in some
For what it's worth. When I start rendering/printing maps based on OSM, I
think it's extremely ugly if the landuse is not 'connected' to the roads,
i.e. that the landuse uses separate parallel ways with a small space in
between for its definition.
I also prefer to create landuses as big as
On 1/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/17/2012 10:00 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
But why punch out the land
taken up by road right-of-way
2012/1/17 Jo winfi...@gmail.com:
For what it's worth. When I start rendering/printing maps based on OSM, I
think it's extremely ugly if the landuse is not 'connected' to the roads,
i.e. that the landuse uses separate parallel ways with a small space in
between for its definition.
I also
Are there examples of places where taxis can't use a bus lane?
Like in Germany, also in Finland some bus lanes are just for buses,
whereas on some roads the traffic sign includes the word taxi
to allow both.
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2012/1/17 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:
you get the border between public and private land. Why is that not
helpful or interesting?
You get the border between public and private land _wrong_. In my
experience, the property line is not at the curb, but some distance
back from the curb. A
2012/1/17 Jo winfi...@gmail.com:
So you'll often observe me joining adjacent landuses for places I want to
render or places I get serious about retracing from Bing or cleaning up non
ODBL compliant data.
I think this is where the problem starts: people removing detail from
the map data which
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
A residential street is used for residential purposes: traveling to and
from
a house, parking cars,
In Italy the decision who can use a bus lane is decided at the local level.
It is the local authorities who decide what the authorized traffic is
that that can use bus lanes.
In Padua, for example, that includes bicycles, but that fact is not evident
from any road signs.
Volker
On 17 January
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth. When I start rendering/printing maps based on OSM, I
think it's extremely ugly if the landuse is not 'connected' to the roads,
i.e. that the landuse uses separate parallel ways with a small space in
between for
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote
Last but not least I'd like to ask you for comments on 3 new values:
N1. a bridge made of few ropes where you walk on a rope:
http://bauwiki.tugraz.at/pub/Baulexikon/HaengeSeilBrueckeB/Kaiserschild_1.jpg
On 1/17/2012 11:18 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com
wrote:
A residential street is used for residential purposes:
On 18/01/2012, at 0:52, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com:
On 1/17/2012 8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
psv=yes (or bus=yes)
This has been bugging me for a while - why do we group buses and taxis? Is
this a common grouping
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:
For what it's worth. When I start rendering/printing maps based on OSM, I
think it's extremely ugly if the landuse is not 'connected' to the roads,
i.e. that the landuse uses separate parallel ways with a small space in
between
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 08:30 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:10 AM, Simone Saviolo wrote:
I find it useless to map such wide areas as landuses. There's no point
in tagging a whole village's area as landuse=residential, and there's
no point in making a sixty-km-wide polygon to
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1/17/2012 11:18 AM, Anthony wrote:
And the primary use of the land is for travel (and not just travel to
and from a house, the most common travel is probably between a house
and work).
Between a house and work is
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 09:42 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
On 1/17/2012 8:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2012/1/17 Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com:
Splitting it at roads gives no benefit and complicates editing greatly.
This
is just ridiculous:
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 15:25 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote:
Regarding Landuse=residential I do not agree with the approach of the
two examples
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=35.323225lon=-119.077089zoom=18
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=45.301967lon=8.444596zoom=18
Apart from
On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 10:18 -0500, Richard Weait wrote:
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/1/17 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com:
it is
simply not helpful from a practical point of view. What additional
information do I gain from
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