Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-23 Thread Dave F.
Thanks for pointing that out to me. As I said, I personally had no problem with 'NR' but I'd be OK with it's removal is there was some king of infill. ATM there is none & it looks virtually invisible. Cheers Dave F. On 23/07/2014 23:52, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 23 July 2014 23:16, Dan S w

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-23 Thread johnw
On Jul 21, 2014, at 10:06 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I am not sure if I completely understand your question. I think the "rest" > (or whole area) can evventually be split over different landuses, that is not > a problem itself. "landuse" is not suited (IMHO) to create a feature on its

Re: [Tagging] Aerodrome types

2014-07-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I believe that a "non public use" aerodrome would require either aerodrome=private/military or at least access=private, so aerodrome=international would mean "a public airport/aerodrome that primarily enables regular citizens to hire flights directly to other countries", and to achieve this it woul

Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 July 2014 23:16, Dan S wrote: > Not really an issue for the "tagging" mailing list - I don't think the > people who maintain the style are on here. If you're talking about the > main osm.org style then it's "openstreetmap-carto", maintained here: > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-23 Thread Dave F.
Damn. Meant to send that to Talk. On 23/07/2014 23:16, Dan S wrote: Hi Dave, Not really an issue for the "tagging" mailing list - I don't think the people who maintain the style are on here. If you're talking about the main osm.org style then it's "openstreetmap-carto", maintained here: https:/

Re: [Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-23 Thread Dan S
Hi Dave, Not really an issue for the "tagging" mailing list - I don't think the people who maintain the style are on here. If you're talking about the main osm.org style then it's "openstreetmap-carto", maintained here: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/ If you believe there's an

[Tagging] Change in rendering in Mapnik of Nature Reserves.

2014-07-23 Thread Dave F.
Hi Change in rendering of Mapnik Nature Reserves. I probably missed the discussion for the above. Personally I like the previous incarnation with NR letters displaying. It was enough on its own to indicate a discernible area, but left enough space to infill with areas of grass/woods etc. No

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread John Packer
Since amenity=childcare is already present in the iD editor presets, I went ahead and compared the translations of these presets on most locales. To me, they verify that amenity=childcare is indeed different than amenity=kindergarten. I'm attaching them to this message. I have to say that I removed

Re: [Tagging] Aerodrome types

2014-07-23 Thread John Packer
I'm aware of aerodrome=international. To be honest I'm not too against it The issue with it is that AFAIK "international" doesn't imply "public use", which can be an important information. I'm not sure I know what aerodrome=airfield means. Could you explain? Something like aerodrome=airport can b

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread John Packer
Christian, > We added a school:FR=* tag to match all our classifications (maternelle, > élémentaire, collège, lycée). As we have schools were these levels are > mixed we also have primaire which equals to maternelle+élémentaire and > secondaire equals to collège+lycée). > I think this is nice, an

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Christian Quest
For info, the french wikipedia "school" page has a nice summary table (missing in the english page): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole In France we decided to use amenity=school where school becomes mandatory (age of 6). Before that amenity=kindergarten We added a school:FR=* tag to match

Re: [Tagging] Aerodrome types

2014-07-23 Thread Christian Quest
Have you looked at taginfo ? http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=aerodrome#overview aerodrome=international is already in use, it is even the first in quantity (157) FYI, the OSM-FR rendering is using it, as well as aerodrome=airport/airport/continental/military/airfied 2014-07-23 19:5

Re: [Tagging] Aerodrome types

2014-07-23 Thread John Packer
I updated the wiki page Key:aerodrome[1]. One of the issues that are still not decided is how to tag international airports. Should we use international_flights=yes ? Or could we use something like flights_range=international/domestic/regional ? [1]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:aerodro

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Serge Wroclawski
This is one of those areas where we are all just splitting the definitions in complex ways. What is a day care, and what is a "real school"? That depends on your definition of the terms. You can skip down to my proposed solutions if you already agree with me. If you don't yet, here are my reasons:

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-07-23 15:13 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > day cares will probably take also children that already go to school when > school is over in the afternoon. > Also I think there's nothing wrong with amenity=kindergarten > Ok, then I suggest amenity=kindergarten as an umbrella term for all in

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 23/lug/2014 um 14:20 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > > I think we should agree on an umbrella term for all institutions that care > for and teach children before they go to "real" school. Is amenity=day_care > already the term I'm talking about? day cares will probably take also children that

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread alyssa wright
that's not to say i disagree with the suggestion, just adding more context. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 8:36 AM, alyssa wright wrote: > I do think there's some distinction in the US between kindergarden and day > care (and it's too early to find the wikipedia articles to back this up, my > apologie

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread alyssa wright
I do think there's some distinction in the US between kindergarden and day care (and it's too early to find the wikipedia articles to back this up, my apologies...) so more generally speaking -- the distinction is that kindergarden has government certified teachers and probably under stricter regul

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think we should agree on an umbrella term for all institutions that care for and teach children before they go to "real" school. Is amenity=day_care already the term I'm talking about? And then on the wiki just write "If you're not sure, put amenity=day_care". That way we have covered all the dif

Re: [Tagging] RFC: crossing=*

2014-07-23 Thread André Pirard
On 2014-07-22 11:43, André Pirard wrote : I have mentioned without much follow-up a similar issue with highway=crossing + crossing=*. What OSM calls "crossing", zebra stripes, is in fact a "passage pour piétons" which does not necessarily cross.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:building=kindergarten, accept and document usage of this tag

2014-07-23 Thread Никита
I do not claim enwiki as primary source of info. Yes, this list is incomplete and possible contain minor mistakes, there are more terms for sure. But it can will give you rough idea about relative usage of term "kindergarten" around the world: language and spelling varies. More than half of countri

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Power transmission refinement - RFC 2

2014-07-23 Thread François Lacombe
Obviously not. I was only answering in-thread, sorry for such a misunderstanding. Is that the only problem you see regarding what is proposed ? *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2014-07-22 12:00 GMT+02:00 Chris Hill : > On 21/07/

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 23/lug/2014 um 06:21 schrieb Andreas Labres : > > On 23.07.14 01:48, Andreas Goss wrote: [for Germany] >> - Kinderkrippe (under 3 years) >> - Kindergarten (3 to 6 years) >> - KiTa/Kindertagesstätte (extension of either one or combination) > > In Austria all this is handled by the amenity "

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:building=kindergarten, accept and document usage of this tag

2014-07-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 23/lug/2014 um 07:13 schrieb Никита : > > Here is list of terms linked at en:Kindergarten page (not necessary same > thing as kindergarten in Germany) there might be some errors, I checked Italy and it mentions also "asilo nido" which is not a Kindergarten but a pre-Kindergarten (age 1-

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

2014-07-23 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi, Am 23.07.2014 01:48, schrieb Andreas Goss: > What we need in Germany: > > *amenity=* tag for a place for children 0-3 +1 for the tag, -0.5 for amenity is difficult here as that mixes with kindergarten in Germany. > *tag that indicates if there is a service in the afternoon OR we use > daycar