Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 15:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > I don't know how many of the 3500 worldwide are actually > communications_towers bu that definition, but I'd guess not more than a > dozen or 2? > Some more searching & this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_towers says

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

2018-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Oct 2018, at 21:12, bkil wrote: > > I have yet to see a restaurant that > declines to pack my meal for takeaway=* if I can't consume it on > premise I believe initially the idea of this tag was takeaway=only then came the preset webforms. a common combination for

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Oct 2018, at 00:42, marc marc wrote: > > I see a tower, I tag a tower, another day someone will add his function. It is not just the function. If you see a watch tower, you know it’s a watch tower, there might be different types, in a prison, at a border etc. but

Re: [Tagging] Ignore roundabout flare in counting

2018-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 at 07:27, André Pirard wrote: > On 2018-10-05 20:35, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Hi, > is there a tag to ignore a roundabout flare in counting the exits? > > Is it a good idea for a navigator to ignore an exit and risk confusion? > But it's not an exit, it's only a driveway >

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread marc marc
Le 06. 10. 18 à 00:26, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > Why not tag man_made=observation_tower / bell_tower / etc. do you have to be an expert in towers+telecomunication+a+b+c to put the right tag? or is it so disturbing to do it by successive refinement ? I see a tower, I tag a tower, another day

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5. Oct 2018, at 08:15, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Sounds sensible to me. If JOSM and ID support man_made=tower + > tower:type=communication with a preset, it won't be any more work than typing > in a single tag. for me it made more sense to discourage the whole

Re: [Tagging] iD Editor - unclear translations ( QA ) - 2018Oct

2018-10-05 Thread Imre Samu
extra: Languages - sorted by FREQ of unclear translations : ( descending ) * 61 tr * 59 he * 50 uk * 40 da * 38 it * 36 ro * 30 is * 29 pl * 27 lt * 26 ast * 25 ca * 24 zh-TW * 21 no * 21 fi * 20 vi * 20 sl * 20 ko * 20 gl *

Re: [Tagging] Ignore roundabout flare in counting

2018-10-05 Thread André Pirard
On 2018-10-05 20:35, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, is there a tag to ignore a roundabout flare in counting the exits? Is it a good idea for a navigator to ignore an exit and risk confusion? What number should it say if that's the way to go? We have a roundabout with a private driveway connecting

[Tagging] iD Editor - unclear translations ( QA ) - 2018Oct

2018-10-05 Thread Imre Samu
Hi, I have created an experimental QA report about the same/unclear translations. and now about ~450 unclear translations pair detected. ( same translations AND different osm keys! ) if you know any language - please check!( discuss in your local osm list! ) Current status ( you can edit

Re: [Tagging] Ignore roundabout flare in counting

2018-10-05 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Friday, October 5, 2018, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Is there tagging to let announcements ignore that flare? > I think that if the driveway is tagged highway=service, this should be enough information for the routeing engine to ignore it. Besides there might be people that don't want the

[Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread SelfishSeahorse
On Friday, October 5, 2018, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > I don't know how many of the 3500 worldwide are actually > communications_towers bu that definition, but I'd guess not more than a > dozen or 2? > There are already more than a dozen in the small country of Switzerland. > I'd like to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

2018-10-05 Thread bkil
> I am not sure adding drinking_water on bars or pubs would do us a favor. For > one it might be up > to the discretion of the current staff how they respond to your request (and > could depend whether > you have already consumed something there, know the barkeeper, are > accompagnied by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Free drinking water by private entities

2018-10-05 Thread bkil
Thanks for the link. The situation was the same in Hungary between 1998-2009. As of 2018, it is not a legal obligation, thus it is up to the owner to decide whether they offer tap water for free. The reasoning is probably that overheads, dish washing and service is not at all free, though most

[Tagging] Ignore roundabout flare in counting

2018-10-05 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, is there a tag to ignore a roundabout flare in counting the exits? We have a roundabout with a private driveway connecting to the roundabout. Visually you wont actually count that service road as a valid roundabout flare but still its a connection. A mapper now changed to a faked topology

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refilling a purchased drink

2018-10-05 Thread Jmapb
On 10/5/2018 1:23 PM, bkil wrote: I agree that keeping a whole price chart up to date manually is a tedious and error prone process yielding low added value from the standpoint of users and OSM, so we should definitely not be doing that. Although specifying the cost of a single representative

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refilling a purchased drink

2018-10-05 Thread bkil
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:38 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Could you please clarify what policy this would violate that makes you >> disapprove? > > it is basically a way of giving a discount to customers. Would you also want > to add special offers of your supermarket, like buy one get one

Re: [Tagging] Map a divide?

2018-10-05 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Apparently British English uses "watershed" to name the line that divides to drainage basins, though Americans would call that a "divide": I looked up natural=divide on Overdrive Turbo. I didn't find any uses in Europe. In North America there were two places where the tag has been used: the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - assembly_point:purpose

2018-10-05 Thread Daniele Santini
Two weeks have passed since the RFC, all problems are solved and the proposal can finally be voted: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/assembly_point:purpose The goal is to specify which emergency an emergency=assembly_point is designed for. Cheers -- Daniele Santini

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Warin
On 05/10/18 17:31, Lionel Giard wrote: I also support this simplification of definition and tags. Is there a possibility to indicate that a tower is specifically a landmark with a tag of some sort without knowing the height (most of them are not publicly known around here) ? Because some are

Re: [Tagging] Map a divide?

2018-10-05 Thread Warin
I think a 'watershed' is an area describing the catchment area that drains to one point. A 'divide' is a single line that describes the division between 2 or more watersheds. You are right in that they are all water related. On 05/10/18 17:20, Philip Barnes wrote: You seem to be describing

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Lionel Giard
I also support this simplification of definition and tags. Is there a possibility to indicate that a tower is specifically a landmark with a tag of some sort without knowing the height (most of them are not publicly known around here) ? Because some are really useful for navigation (visible from

Re: [Tagging] Map a divide?

2018-10-05 Thread Philip Barnes
You seem to be describing a watershed, which was recently discussed. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-September/039026.html Phil (trigpoint) On 4 October 2018 15:46:19 BST, Kevin Kenny wrote: >In some maps that I render, I want to show the divide between a couple >of

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 16:17, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Sounds sensible to me. If JOSM and ID support man_made=tower + > tower:type=communication with a preset, it won't be any more work than > typing in a single tag. > Can confirm that it's preset in iD, as I've just mapped one (a mobile phone

Re: [Tagging] mast / tower / communication_tower (again)

2018-10-05 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Sounds sensible to me. If JOSM and ID support man_made=tower + tower:type=communication with a preset, it won't be any more work than typing in a single tag. Does this require a proposal process? How does something become officially deprecated? On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick