Do note that fire hydrant plates depict opening direction, so if we
would need to store direction to close, a mapper would yet again need
to do mental work, that is not error prone and confusing.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 12:31 AM François Lacombe
wrote:
>
> The question about the opening direction
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> On 9. Oct 2018, at 23:03, yo paseopor wrote:
>
> for this reason the solution of tag the traffic signs ON the way it's the
> best way to do it. Traffic signs are relative to their ways (because if the
> way does not exist the existance of traffic sign is non-sense). Ways
Hi,
Le mer. 10 oct. 2018 à 00:45, Paul Allen a écrit :
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:31 PM François Lacombe <
> fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The question about the opening direction should be propagated to this
>> draft proposal regarding pipeline valves
>>
>>
Massive job, thanks Francois! :-)
Question for you pleasse.
Following on from the discussion re towers & masts, I've just mapped a
couple of mobile phone towers.
What should we call the base station hut / building usually adjacent to the
base of the tower
My understanding is they're not a
I am not saying these cases are impossible, only that they have to be
accommodated, preferably as uniformly as possible. It is not intended as
criticism, but as a critical test of fitness for purpose. If the tagging
scheme can't handle these real-world situations, it's not ready for
go-live yet.
Hi Paul,
Le mer. 10 oct. 2018 à 00:31, Paul Allen a écrit :
> I thought you'd agreed that "Central Office" was left-pond terminology
> and, since OSM is
> based on right-pond terminology, you'd use "Exchange" instead. There are
> several places in
> the proposal (including a heading) that
sent from a phone
> On 10. Oct 2018, at 00:03, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing it
> was
> amenity=toy_library, so that's what I went with.
+1, kiss
Cheers, Martin
___
Tagging
This whole "trying to cram everything including direction and how it
relates to everything into a node" idea is fundamentally hosed. Also
literally why relations are a thing that exist.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:26 PM yo paseopor wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:37 PM Tobias Knerr wrote:
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> On 9. Oct 2018, at 21:19, bkil wrote:
>
> amenity=waste_basket
> waste=dog_excrement
> vending=excrement_bags
>
> I've also seen waste_basket:excrement_bags=yes and fee=no, but I don't
> see much value in these at this point in time.
while vending=* with fee=no is some
On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 08:04, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:24 PM ChameleonScales <
> chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> amenity:library=game_and_toy
>>
>
> When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing
> it was
> amenity=toy_library, so that's
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:31 PM François Lacombe
wrote:
> The question about the opening direction should be propagated to this
> draft proposal regarding pipeline valves
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal
>
> I thought about
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:05 PM François Lacombe
wrote:
> Feel free to make any comment.
>
I thought you'd agreed that "Central Office" was left-pond terminology and,
since OSM is
based on right-pond terminology, you'd use "Exchange" instead. There are
several places in
the proposal (including
The question about the opening direction should be propagated to this draft
proposal regarding pipeline valves
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal
I thought about turn_to_close=clockwise / anticlockwise
Whatever the final answer will be, this definitely
Hi
The telecom networks proposal is currently in RFC and all issues or
questions have been solved.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Telecom_local_loop
The vote is about to begin shortly, by the end of the week.
The tagging has been in use in France for last months, no big
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:24 PM ChameleonScales <
chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote:
amenity:library=game_and_toy
>
When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing
it was
amenity=toy_library, so that's what I went with.
--
Paul
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 16:05 yo paseopor wrote:
> for this reason the solution of tag the traffic signs ON the way it's the
> best way to do it. Traffic signs are relative to their ways (because if the
> way does not exist the existance of traffic sign is non-sense). Ways have
> direction, also
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:16 PM Colin Smale wrote:
> I can think of a couple of non-trivial cases which will need to be handled:
>
> 1) multiple signs on a single post
>
As Finnish people do we can add subkey :2 :3 :4... (European regulations
does nit recommend more than 3 traffic_signs
Hi all,
Game and toy libraries don't fit in any feature type.
They can be but are not necessarily:
- non-profit organizations
- child care facilities
- social faciilties
- toy stores
- libraries
- probably other things
So I think they should have their own feature type and tag.
How about
> On Oct 10, 2018, at 4:39 AM, bkil wrote:
>
> Why is shop=convenience not a proper tag for "the only retail building
> in 40 miles radius"?
Usually, the small retail shop in a very remote place is tailored to the daily
needs of locals and tourists who do activities in that area. they stock
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 9:34 PM Viking wrote:
>
> As we did for most of the tags in [0], I would not use fire_hydrant:
> prefix because we want a slim
database and because opening:direction=* is (or can be) used for other
> objects, as doors, taps, etc.
>
There are differing viewpoints on
Hi all,
Prefabrication often ease the move of such buildings but it's not mandatory.
According to all suggestions, what about this:
structure:prefabricated=yes (the whole building is prefabricated)
structure:prefabricated=facade (only the facade)
structure:prefabricated= * any building part *
for this reason the solution of tag the traffic signs ON the way it's the
best way to do it. Traffic signs are relative to their ways (because if the
way does not exist the existance of traffic sign is non-sense). Ways have
direction, also their nodes can have this reference.
Relations are
Bkill, you added fire_hydrant:opening to wiki page [0], but you should have
discussed it here and/or in discussion page before.
We did many efforts to widely discuss fire hydrant extensions [1] and finally
approve them: you should at least discuss your proposal with people who spent
so much
Hi,
On 10/09/2018 05:42 PM, yo paseopor wrote:
> It is not the first attempt to do that. Last days, with iD
> implementation and my message I have think it was the solution. Also I
> have waited some days and communicate to this list my intentions to
> adopt the proposed iD scheme. But when I
Why is shop=convenience not a proper tag for "the only retail building
in 40 miles radius"? Extra tags could be invented to highlight that it
has a larger variety of non-food items than usual, or we could
introduce a subtype with convenience=*.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:42 AM John Willis wrote:
>
You can tag the doggy bins like so:
amenity=waste_basket
waste=dog_excrement
vending=excrement_bags
I've also seen waste_basket:excrement_bags=yes and fee=no, but I don't
see much value in these at this point in time.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:30 PM Paul Allen wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at
On 09.10.2018 17:42, yo paseopor wrote:
> So Please , let's talk about it. What will be the correct way to tag a
> traffic sign?
How about the existing tagging scheme for traffic signs on nodes,
documented at https://wiki.osm.org/Key:traffic_sign ?
To sum it up:
- Place a node for the traffic
I can think of a couple of non-trivial cases which will need to be
handled:
1) multiple signs on a single post
2) signs with a dependent (qualifier) sign, such as "except for buses"
3) one or more signs on a larger panel - too large to represent as a
node
4) signs applying only to certain
Why not map traffic signs the way enforcement devices are currently mapped
in relations? That's more foolproof than relying on nodes having nonextant
direction, especially when most traffic signs aren't even members of ways.
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, 10:46 yo paseopor wrote:
>
> I want to start the
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:09 PM marc marc wrote:
> Le 09. 10. 18 à 16:30, Paul Allen a écrit :
> > How to tag?
>
> amenity=recycling
> recycling:cans=yes
> recycling:paper=yes
>
So far, so good.
recycling:PET=yes or recycling:plastic_bottles=yes
>
It's neither of those. The plastic type isn't
Le 09. 10. 18 à 16:30, Paul Allen a écrit :
> How to tag?
amenity=recycling
recycling:cans=yes
recycling:paper=yes
recycling:PET=yes or recycling:plastic_bottles=yes
recycling:waste=yes
> only one of them would be rendered
feel free to find/create/publish a icon that show the different types
I want to start the mother of all discussions about traffic signs
It is not the first attempt to do that. Last days, with iD implementation
and my message I have think it was the solution. Also I have waited some
days and communicate to this list my intentions to adopt the proposed iD
scheme. But
On 10/9/2018 6:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Both, restaurants and fast food places require that you can get there
and get something ready to eat. If all they sell are products that
require further preparation / cooking, I would not tag them as
restaurant or fast food (with the exception
Re: “convincing the renderer folks to render it“
Not as hard as you think. The folks at OpenStreetMap Carto have just
revamped the mapping of recycling and waste bins.
If you can get > 1000 uses of a new tag and can think of a good icon, it
could get rendered.
-Joseph
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:32
A village a few miles from me (but in a different county) recently got one
of
these combined litter/recycling bins:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2241627292737699=1632021387031629&__tn__=C-R
How to tag? Each of the two sections is around the size of a large
Graeme Fitzpatrick writes:
> On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 03:58, SelfishSeahorse
> wrote:
>
>> There is a risk that towers and masts are defined differently in
>> English, but perhaps Martin's idea to combine the two definitions
>> would make sense nevertheless.
Part of the issue is UK English vs US
Am Di., 9. Okt. 2018 um 14:28 Uhr schrieb Jonathon Rossi :
>
> My first thought was some sort of "landmark=yes" tag, there is already a
> "denotation=landmark" tag for trees, however it appears like there might
> have been a landmark tag in the past that was deprecated, and I realise
> that it
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:34 PM Lionel Giard wrote:
> The problem i see with that "multipurpose" value is that it give no
> information and could be misused for other tower:type (like
> defensive;observation) which should not be rendered as communication_tower.
> Thus i would propose to render
Am Di., 9. Okt. 2018 um 04:57 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> I think I agree with you that "take-and-bake" places are a type of
> restaurant or fast-food; that's how they are being tagged in the USA.
>
>
IMHO a restaurant usually requires tables (or culturally
Am Di., 9. Okt. 2018 um 00:52 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg <
joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:
> In the USA there are shops that sell custom fresh pizzas, but they are
> uncooked. You take the prepared pizza home and cook it yourself. In the
> western USA, the chain is named “Papa Murphy’s Take And
You know, some people have advocated for a tag or, more properly, a set of
tags that can enumerate the items sold by a given shop. The tag set uses
the key "sells:*=yes/no. So if a given shop sells Korean food, one could
tag it as shop=food (or shop=convenience or grocery, or general) and
If you think the specialty shops should have there own tag, we could start
using shop=specialty_grocery
But I would like someone from England to confirm if this is the specific
British term.
I’m ok with using shop=general for the small shops in developing countries,
if we can edit the wiki to
sounds like there are several different kinds of shops being discussed
- old old “markets”, from before there were super markets or convenience shops.
- import/foreign foods shops catering to a local minority population or special
cultural interest
- “markets” in developing countries.
>
The problem i see with that "multipurpose" value is that it give no
information and could be misused for other tower:type (like
defensive;observation) which should not be rendered as communication_tower.
Thus i would propose to render the "communication_tower" based on the
height > 250 m
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