Re: [Tagging] Continuous shoulder rumble strips (CSRS)

in the US. On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 at 22:02, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:27 AM Jeremy Harris wrote: > >> On 20/12/2020 16:07, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > Is there a tagging scheme for these bicycle killers >> > <https://www.map

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

The ways making up a cycle route typically have names themselves, and the Route name normally is not the name of the way, Hence in many cases this would be a mapping error, i.e. the name of the way is not correctly tagged in the database. There may be exceptions to this general, abstract

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - electricity=*

I am confused on what the tag electricity= is intended for. You say in the first of the two proposals: " The parent key electricity would be used to tag the availabilty and source of electricity, i.e. whether a building or amenity has

Re: [Tagging] Defining the meaning of capacity tag for tourism=camp_site

Looks like a good idea. In that context: When travelling with a bike and a small tent (applies equally to hikers) I have encountered the following issues: - camp sites that do not accept small tents - they only have places for caravans and large tents. - camp sites that do have areas

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC 2 - Pumping proposal

My main point got lost: the proposal should explain how the mapping of pumps in pumping stations should be handled, short of using indoor mapping, especially as your cover photo shows an indoors pump in an industrial building. On Mon, 14 Dec 2020, 00:40 Brian M. Sperlongano, wrote: > François,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

different meaning, i.e. "oneway for vehicles". On Mon, 11 Sep 2023, 08:03 Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging, < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > > > Sep 10, 2023, 23:37 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 01:25, Niels Elgaard Larsen >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

This is a frequent tagging problem. bicycle=* , oneway=* , and oneway/bicycle=* are tags describing the legal access status. So does highway=path (it implies, in many jurisdictions, foot=yes and bicycle=yes). There is a way to indicate a route is a MTB route, and also that such route is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

Be careful: oneway=* is a legal access tag, only valid for vehicles, not for pedestrians. On Sat, 9 Sep 2023, 07:05 Andrew Harvey, wrote: > I have previously proposed the tag path=mtb > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Tag:path%3Dmtb as a way to > say it's a purpose built mountain

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: Use description instead of name for route relations

Could you give some more examples to illustrate what the problem is that you want to resolve. On Sun, 8 Oct 2023, 00:23 Kevin Kenny, wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 4:50 PM Andrew Hain > wrote: > >> I have started a new proposal: that the name tag should be restricted to >> the same

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

Thinking about why people may be doing this, and based on recent experience: You come across a bicycle or hiking route sign "on the ground", but have no idea what relation it is referring to. So you tag it as name, just for the time being. Il giorno sab 31 dic 2022 alle ore 18:50 Anne- Karoline

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

maxwidth is a legal limitation, typically signposted. width is used on barriers as physical width of the passage. maxwidth:physical is sometimes used to indicate the same concept on roads. width is used to indicate the physical width of the carriageway. It is typically used to indicate that a

Re: [Tagging] Streets with gradually increasing widths

Two points. (1) Do not redefine width as medium width. (2) Do not propose tagging of ways that does not survive splitting the way On Tue, 15 Aug 2023, 18:11 Sebastian Gürtler, wrote: > > Am 15.08.23 um 14:56 schrieb Greg Troxel: > > >> If there are no objections, I'lpl add a section about the

Re: [Tagging] dinosaurs

Do you have a feeling how many "archeologic" sites in OSM are in reality palaeontological? I fear this is a frequent error, but difficult to spot. On Sun, 16 Oct 2022, 17:33 Anne-Karoline Distel, wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm doing a huge tidy-up amongst the values for "site_type", documented >

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I would like to contribute to this discussion my, maybe subjective, impression that we have an inflation of proposals. Many of them are interesting, others look less so. In any case, personally I have de facto stopped contributing to these proposals for simple lack of time. I also would like to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Preliminary remark: I have walked and hiked, done a couple of via ferrata, but so far only heard of scrambled eggs. My only source is the Wikipedia article on "scrambling". I have detected that in fact I have done some scrambles. Two of them close by. I went back to the tagging and they are

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

Can we not finish this useless discussion? The amenity=bench tag was created just for that purpose, benches. Some time later someone created the key seats to indicate how many people can sit on a bench, adding explicitly that the key capacity should not be used in that case. The addition that key

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Payment denominations

On Tue, 11 Oct 2022, 09:16 Martin Koppenhoefer, wrote: > in Italy, one and two cent coins have been abolished, they are not > accepted any more in shops, and while prices are still ending mostly with > 9, the sum gets rounded. > OT for this discussion: Where I live in Italy, one and two €cent

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 12:20 Marc_marc, wrote: > imho only one main feature/objet : the stream bed > and car use it, a bit like a bicycle uses a road. > OT, but I cannot let it pass: Roads, in most cases, are dedicated to vehicles (including bicycles), pedestrians, horse riders, ..., unless there

Re: [Tagging] OSM Wiki

A practical comment from an end user: it is helpful to know if a drinking-water point can be used to fill water bottles. Bubblers are tricky in that regard. BTW: a shower in many parts of the world may not "waste" drinking water, for example by using rain water. On Mon, 3 Oct 2022, 13:47 Warin,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire building, the locker is only accessible during shop opening times. There are also pick-up points in shops where a human being handles the operation (I know

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

enk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г., 11:41 Volker Schmidt : > >> Around here we have many instances of self-service parcel-locker inside a >> shop that is inside a building. The shop does not occupy the entire >> building, the locker is only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - pickup

The parcel locker that I use is both for picking up goods and for returning goods. I presume that this is the standard functionality for parcel lockers. Il giorno sab 15 ott 2022 alle ore 17:46 Illia Marchenko < illiamarchenk...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > > сб, 15 окт. 2022 г

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

(using Google's English translation of the Danish text) In addition a bicycle route has to be signposted. I doubt that the the fact that the TdF in a given year ran over a certain set of roads is something that is to be inserted in a geographical database, as is OSM. It is certainly not

Re: [Tagging] Hvad stiller vi op med tour de France ruterne?

On Sat, 15 Oct 2022, 20:02 Marc_marc, wrote: > Hello, > > Le 15.10.22 à 18:55, Volker Schmidt a écrit : > > ( > > It is certainly not something that can be represented > > by a bicycle route relation. > > witch issue did you see ? > It's not signposted.

Re: [Tagging] Can we assume surface=cobblestone:flattened to be an exact duplicate of surface=sett?

Sett <-> flattened cobblestone: Sett are roughly rectangular blocks, hewn from big blocks of stone (granite or basalt). Flattened cobblestones are made from roughly round cobblestones by flattening the part that faces the road surface. Cobblestones and pebbles are essentially the same:

[Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

I would like to tag signs that do refer to Points of Interest like this example ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

Hi François, Il giorno gio 12 gen 2023 alle ore 19:44 François Lacombe < fl.infosrese...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Hi Volker, > > Le jeu. 12 janv. 2023 à 12:02, Volker Schmidt a > écrit : > >> The present vs future tagging table is flawed. >> The landuse column

Re: [Tagging] key covered=* applied to storage tanks

I would say that storage tanks, as default, are closed. So a man_made=storage_tank in OSM is closed. Secondly if a tank is closed (at the top), this is called a roof. There are fixed roofs and floating roofs. See as an example this manufacturer's web site:

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Utilities facility

The present vs future tagging table is flawed. The landuse column shows values that are rarely used. Industrial=water (500 uses) in practice is tagged as man_made=water_works (30k+ uses). "sewerage" land use exists and is in practice tagged as man_made=wastewater_plant (75k uses). Generally

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > This example should also be mapped as a pass, with a node tagged > mountain_pass=yes on the highway, with the elevation > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 2:26 PM Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I would like to tag signs tha

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

I know this problem from cycle routes. Individual ways that are part of a hiking or cycling route should normally not carry the name of the route. First because in most cases it will be factually wrong, but also such invented names will make it difficult to find ways with genuinly missing names in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a point-of-interest sign

l prankster, but this one seems right. > > On 12/29/22 11:52, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I have now checked on Gmaps: that sign is not on the continental divide, > but it is announcing the continental divide. About 175m further there is an > identical sign on the other side

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

This proposal is incorrectly giving the impression that it is in the spirit of the crossing:markings tag. This tag was meant to complement and refine the existing tagging of crossings in some cases, but certainly not to replace, wholesale the "crossing" key The crossing:markings key describes the

[Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

Is there an established way to tag the diameter of a mini-roundabout? We have the tag diameter, but I could not find it applied to mini-roundabouts. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

eter? Or, if there is a > painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that has > a diameter, but does it matter to any prospective map user? > > Regards, > Peter > > Peter Neale > t: 01908 309666 > m: 07968 341930 > > &

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

that triggered the question is this one <https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1288570081954544>, and it has a diameter of about 12m, and, yes, it is a mini-roundabout. Volker Il giorno ven 27 gen 2023 alle ore 22:35 Florian Lohoff ha scritto: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 09:25:32P

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

The mm is because it's intended do describe water tubes and pipe threads, and not roads. That is why I have doubts using it for the mini-roundabout. On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, 09:20 Mark Reidel, wrote: > On Sat, 2023-01-28 at 00:53 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > What I am after i

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

I think the best way out is to think detached from the meaning of the strings of characters we use for tagging. Let's document that we have have certain values for the key "historic" that describe objects that are not historic, and not even old. After all the purpose of the wiki is to describe the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Street vendors

Just to make the list complete: Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls. Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't find one). If we really don't have one already, it might be

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

Most of the highway objects along waterways around here (Po Valley, Northern Italy) that are not open to public motor traffic, and wide enough for dual-track vehicles, are, in my view correctly, tagged as highway=track. They are used for waterway maintenance and for agricultural purposes on the

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

I do have a typical traversable roundabout close by. hgv=no is not correct, there are commercial activities around that need hgv access. The roads are adequate for that The angle between incoming roads is not a suitabla measure, as the traversable roundabout has a circular "belly", providing

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

versable >>>> (mountable) dome or island." >>>> >>>> As it is traversable, does it really have a diameter? Or, if there is a >>>> painted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that >>>> has >>>>

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Ownership is not relevant if you think in terms of fixmystreet.. Just two extreme examples. - The Italian Motorway network is owned by the Italian via a state-majority public company, and operated by several different private or state-owned companies that to all effects own specific

Re: [Tagging] road accident memorials

In South America wayside crosses with artificial flowers and, often, a small mound, are very frequent. All the ones I looked at, were memorials for road accident victims. On Mon, 12 Jun 2023, 09:27 Marc_marc, wrote: > Le 11.06.23 à 13:29, Anne-Karoline Distel a écrit : > >

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

I read this discussion with interest (as end user) and ignorance router-wise. Some unsorted early-morning thoughts on this subject: When trying to reach a destination that is defined by a complete address (city, street name, house number or name) is that the last meters of the route are,

Re: [Tagging] Area of young trees - saplings

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Plant_nursery (approved) On Wed, 17 May 2023 at 10:08, Anne- Karoline Distel wrote: > Landuse=forest plus start_date then maybe? That would imply their age. > > -- > Sent from my Android phone with WEB.DE Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > On

Re: [Tagging] tagging "loose" paving stones

Sett around here looks very similar. It wiggles when I am on a bike, and it's set in sand. On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 at 00:35, Yves via Tagging wrote: > Interesting, this could also be used to let water in the ground in order > not to cause subsidence by drying out the underground. Maybe we shouldn't

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Deprecating demolished railway tags

I put a comment in the discussion page, which is a pointer to the outline of a counter-proposal. Please have a look. Thank you On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 at 05:31, Ewrt1 OSM wrote: > This proposal aims to deprecate all Demolished Railway tags. > >

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