Re: [Tagging] Default access for service=driveway?

2020-12-22 Thread Adam Franco
> > 1. Should a routing engine automatically assume that something tagged a > "driveway" is not suitable for through traffic? For motor vehicles through traffic seems inappropriate by default, but for pedestrians I would think it is generally ok. Bicycles are somewhere between. The case

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards (frost heave?)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Franco
*hazard=frost_heave, hazard=bump?* One of the common road hazards I encounter and would like to tag are large frost heaves that occur at consistent locations every year. A few roads in my region like VT-17 and NY-8 have poor roadbeds and get damaged by frost heaves the first winter after

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-12 Thread Adam Franco
I'm wondering if rather than deprecating water=pond, it would be better to keep it as a value with overlapping usage to lake (like river/stream) and instead focus tagging on the actual differences between different bodies of water. I'd suggest two new tags that get at the heart of what I've been

Re: [Tagging] Crossing tagged on both way and node (was: What does bicycle=no on a node means?)

2020-10-17 Thread Adam Franco
As someone who renders a driving-focused map of [the most twisty] roadways, I specifically have done exactly what Volker describes (looking at highway=crossing nodes only). To provide an example, my renderer walks down each vehicle-legal way and demotes the

Re: [Tagging] Rio de la Plata edit war

2020-08-04 Thread Adam Franco
It seems to me that the main underlying conflict is that (at least in the default Carto rendering on openstreetmap.org a few years ago) the Rio Plata was getting rendered as land at low-zooms and South America simply looks wrong when such a large water area is rendered as land.

Re: [Tagging] How are protected_area (and national_park) boundaries determined?

2020-06-23 Thread Adam Franco
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 11:40 AM Rob Savoye wrote: > [...] While I do use parcel maps on fire calls, adding all these boundaries > to OSM would be silly. I agree that mapping the outer boundary is all > that's needed. > My main use of maps of National Forests is planning backcountry trips

Re: [Tagging] Examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

2020-05-29 Thread Adam Franco
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 9:48 AM Kevin Kenny wrote: > We have no 'right to roam' here other than the fact that you haven't > been trespassing unless you knew or should have known that your > presence was unlawful, and are legally liable only for damage you > cause. Adjacent to Kevin's home state

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

2020-05-21 Thread Adam Franco
For those who missed it, a related discussion was just had on this list about differentiating mountain-biking trails from cycleways. See the resulting proposal for path=mtb https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:path%3Dmtb and threads from April in Tagging:

Re: [Tagging] Is there any tagging scheme for carillons already?

2020-05-07 Thread Adam Franco
These large bell-instruments their own terminology with a Carillon being defined as having 24+ bells:* "A carillon-like instrument with fewer than 23 bells is called a chime ." *(ref Wikipedia/Carillon )

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

2020-04-05 Thread Adam Franco
> > On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 3:49 AM Andrew Harvey > wrote: > ... > Although that feels most logical to me, since the sentiment here is > strongly against this view about highway=cycleway including mountain bike > tracks, I'm proposing instead: > > Designed/mostly used for city cycling (excluding

Re: [Tagging] RFC rewritten proposal Via_ferrata_simplified

2019-03-06 Thread Adam Franco
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 8:04 PM Kevin Kenny wrote: > Slightly off topic: vie ferrate are not a familiar thing in the > mountains near me. > Does > http://aspiringfortysixer.com/Upper_Lower_Wolfjaw,_Armstrong_%26_Gothics_files/P1010309.jpg > count? > I wonder this as well. I don't have any direct

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

2019-01-22 Thread Adam Franco
As someone who has mapped a lot of landcover & landuse in my local area, I welcome sorting out the confusion that is the current state of natural=wood/landuse=forest. Many parcels around me are managed for forestry purposes but don't have

Re: [Tagging] Building names, historical/original owner?

2018-12-15 Thread Adam Franco
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:46 AM Jmapb wrote: > IMO it's fine to use old_name=* even without name=* -- to record the fact > that it used to be known as the Johnson House, but there's no current name > in common use. J > Thanks all for the feedback. I guess I'll use old_name=* for these. The

[Tagging] Building names, historical/original owner?

2018-12-14 Thread Adam Franco
I have a question about `name=` and variants of names. I've been reading a lot of local history and in the architecture/history world, houses are generally named for the first resident that they were built for. E.g. "Johnson house" and are referred to in this way even after many generations of new

Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question

2018-10-24 Thread Adam Franco
gt; relation editor. I know they indicate connectivity (a closed loop?) but > what do you do if there is a problem, a "gap."?? > > Anyway, thanks again to Adam. You've advanced my understanding immensely. > > Dave > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:39 PM Kevin K

Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question

2018-10-22 Thread Adam Franco
Hi Dave, all, Based on this discussion I just recorded this short tutorial of how I use JOSM and its Relation Toolbox plugin to to add adjoining land-cover areas as multipolygons with shared boundary ways to reduce duplication and overlapping ways. The area I'm

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

2018-08-17 Thread Adam Franco
What areas are "dangerous" is very much a matter of race and class in the USA and likely in many other parts of the world. For example, there are wealthy mostly-white neighborhoods in many American suburbs where a person-of-color just walking or driving through is cause for residents to

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-08 Thread Adam Franco
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > I haven't forgotten. I'm just going through a crunch time at work, and > haven't had time to draft the thing formally. > As mentioned by Paul earlier in this thread, it looks like you already put together a pretty solid draft two years ago