On 25.07.2014 11:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories
> whenewer possible.
>
> Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond,
> landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine.
>
> I think that all of them are
2014-07-28 1:10 GMT+02:00 John Willis :
> How do you map a building's land w/o a landuse area then? Most every
> building has some kind of space around it beyond its foundation, especially
> if it is designed for car traffic over foot traffic - parking lots, etc.
>
It is inside general landuse, u
How do you map a building's land w/o a landuse area then? Most every building
has some kind of space around it beyond its foundation, especially if it is
designed for car traffic over foot traffic - parking lots, etc.
Javbw
> On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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>
>> Land
> Landuse doesn't seem to fit very well when we have these (general) shop
> tags.
>
Yes, I am using also shop tag. But sometimes area is so large that it
deserves its own landuse.
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 09:51:28AM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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> In situation like this (both landuse=* and landuse=retail fits) I usually
> use retail for shops open to anybody and landuse=* for specialist ones.not
> open for public,
Perhaps it would be better to use the trade tag?
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> But what if we separate the pool from the landuse? make it a water feature
> (because it is usually briney seawater at first), and place it in the
> landuse the tagger feels is appropriate? Industrial for a large plant, a
> farm field (or comemrical?) for a little one?
>
In situation like this (
@ martin -
In Japan, the "neighborhood" industrial shops are really common, especially
here in car parts land Gunma (Home of Subaru, Mitsuba and Ogura). We're talking
two guys in a garage running (truly) industrial metal stamping machines to make
simple brackets or whatnot for cars. Tokyo's re
I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making
subcategories whenewer possible.
Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond,
landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine.
I think that all of them are overly specific and should be tagged as
subcategories
of mo
> Am 26/lug/2014 um 18:12 schrieb Tod Fitch :
>
> it might be between "craft" and "industrial". I can see this could be used
> for other areas too like pottery, printing, etc.
yes, that was what I wanted to say. Craft is not industrial by German definition
cheers,
Martin
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On Jul 26, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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>> Am 26/lug/2014 um 14:04 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny :
>>
>> Scale is not relevant here, almost all industrial and farming activities are
>> performed on large and small scale.
>
>
>
> maybe there is a language problem, to me indu
> Am 26/lug/2014 um 14:04 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny :
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> Scale is not relevant here, almost all industrial and farming activities are
> performed on large and small scale.
maybe there is a language problem, to me industrial implies division of labor,
mechanization/automatisation and also a
> they are harvested though, also olive groves ,for example, aren't
> ploughed. In case of small manual production, how would that qualify for
> industrial?
>
> Use your search engine and look for images about salt farming and you'll
> find lot of small scale instances as well
>
I always associate
> Am 26/lug/2014 um 06:24 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny :
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> Why farmland? For me it seems clearly industrial process, certainly unrelated
> to growing plants. It is not like salt ponds are plughed.
they are harvested though, also olive groves ,for example, aren't ploughed. In
case of small ma
> Am 26/lug/2014 um 10:17 schrieb johnw :
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> But now most of the large ones to map are all part of industrial salt
> refineries.
yes, very large typically indicates industrial (also for "normal" farming you
could then find industrial characteristics). In other areas of the world there
ar
There's an interesting question.
It is a "salt evaporation pond" , and it is a really old practice of making
salt. the colorful south bay of san francisco is thanks to salt farming.
But is refining a mineral really farming? Refining is usually considered
industrial - but it was practiced with
2014-07-25 16:28 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> salt_ponds could also be considered a subtype of farmland (maybe depends
> on the case/scale).
>
Why farmland? For me it seems clearly industrial process, certainly
unrelated to growing plants. It is not like salt ponds are plughed.
_
> In most cases I would go for retail for plant nurseries, they are
generally places that you go to buy plants for the garden.
>
> There are few that do not sell to the public.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
Yes, I also tag part accessible to customers as a shop,
with landuse=retail. Sometimes there is a
2014-07-25 18:44 GMT+02:00 Philip Barnes :
> In most cases I would go for retail for plant nurseries, they are
> generally places that you go to buy plants for the garden.
>
>
>
good point, the ones I know have retail and other (not generally
accessible, bigger) areas, it could be split.
cheers
On Fri, 2014-07-25 at 16:28 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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> 2014-07-25 11:16 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny :
> I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making
> subcategories whenewer possible.
>
> Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery,
>
2014-07-25 17:02 GMT+02:00 Zecke :
> landuse=mine is an undefined Tag, so it is not clear what is meant here.
>
you mean it could be also landuse=yours? ;-)
> In case of underground mining I would agree to have it being a subtag of
> landuse=industrial, as the surface installations could be o
> In case of surface mining however it is a characteristic of its own, which
> comes close to quarry. However furthermore I would prefer to have it the
> other way round, quarry being a special case of surface_mining:
>
> landuse=surface_mining
> resource=limestone, marble, sand (or whatever)
> (wh
Am 25.07.2014 16:28, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
I partly agree. plant_nursery could indeed become a subtag of
farmland, as could be greenhouse horticulture, but I do agree less for
mining and salt_pond. landuse=mine is in line with landuse=quarry (for
open pit mining it might be a subgroup o
2014-07-25 16:28 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm :
> nobody has the power to define a fixed set of canonical
> values for anything.
>
nobody besides the style maintainers of the main mapnik style ;-)
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2014-07-25 12:33 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen :
> Note that we do the same for highway: we didn't invent a new type
> highway=industrial or a new type highway=parking_aisle, because such roads
> wouldn't be rendered. Instead, we map all kinds of highways on a small
> fixed set of highway keys. I th
Hi,
On 07/25/2014 12:33 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
> I think that we should define a fixed set of canonical values
Now that would be novel.
> we map all kinds of highways on a
> small fixed set of highway keys
That is true but that small set has been determined through evolution
and has never
2014-07-25 11:16 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny :
> I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories
> whenewer possible.
>
> Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond,
> landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine.
>
> I think that all of them are
On 25 Jul 2014 10:20, "Mateusz Konieczny" wrote:
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> I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories
whenewer possible.
I fully agree.
The current situation has the disadvantage that the more accurate landuse
is tagged, the less renderers there will be that actually ren
I propose to reduce inventing new landuses and start making subcategories
whenewer possible.
Recently I encountered landuse=plant_nursery, landuse=salt_pond,
landuse=greenhouse_horticulture and landuse=mine.
I think that all of them are overly specific and should be tagged as
subcategories
of mor
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