Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Volker Schmidt
In addition I think there are (wooden) platforms for churns in the same area. At least I think so, but until I find one, I cannot say for sure whether they still exist or not. On Sun, 21 Jun 2020, 15:37 Paul Allen, wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 14:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> My point was o

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 14:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the > concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. > Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to > distinguish active fr

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 15:22, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the > concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. > Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Volker Schmidt
My point was only that we should be carefully looking for variants of the concept, and try to make it mappable, avoiding too specialized tags. Something like "milk collection point" would comprise both if we were to distinguish active from historic ones.

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 13:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I looked around a bit (I am a city dweller, apologies, if this is new to > me) > In South Tyrol (Italy) they have an interesting variant of this concept. > The dairy uses refrigerated containers which are parked in designated spots > at sche

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 21. Jun 2020, at 14:13, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > The nearby farmers bring their milk to the container and fill it up. The full > containers are collected and carried to the dairy. > I found this photograph of such a container on Instagram. > I suppose this is not a map

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Volker Schmidt
Update. I looked around a bit (I am a city dweller, apologies, if this is new to me) In South Tyrol (Italy) they have an interesting variant of this concept. The dairy uses refrigerated containers which are parked in designated spots at scheduled times. The nearby farmers bring their milk to the co

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2020-06-20 at 19:25 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:08, Martin Koppenhoefer < > dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 20. Jun 2020, at 14:44, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > They should probably have disused=yes or a disused lifecycle > > > > > prefix

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Certainly milk churns in Australia - at least to this Older English Speaker! :-), even though TBMK they are no longer actually used. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
To my memory, these platforms for milk "container" collection are still in active daily use at least in some parts northern Italy, and, I think, other parts of the Alps. So it is important not to make the tag "historic" only. In some parts of Germany there used to be one-per-village small building

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:32, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > I agree with mapping these as man_made=milk_churn_stand and adding > disused=yes when this is known, since a used vs disused stone or concrete > stand will look exactly the same. > The two will look different when milk churns are put on t

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> I think if any I would use disused=yes as they still remain „operational“ I guess, although not actually used. > The disused:key=value style seems more appropriate for functions (amenity etc.) than for physical descriptions (man_made). +1 I agree with mapping these as man_made=milk_churn_stand

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 19:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 20. Jun 2020, at 14:44, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > They should probably have disused=yes or a disused lifecycle > > prefix (cue endless arguments about which) except in parts of the world > > where they actually are still in use (i

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Jun 2020, at 14:44, Paul Allen wrote: > > They should probably have disused=yes or a disused lifecycle > prefix (cue endless arguments about which) except in parts of the world > where they actually are still in use (if they are). I think if any I would use disused=

Re: [Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Jez Nicholson
"It's only been used once so we shouldn't document it until it becomes popular" Discuss and use by all means. Thank you for providing a copy-and-paste response :) On Sat, 20 Jun 2020, 13:44 Paul Allen, wrote: > Recently I was digging for some details of a farm I was mapping and came > across

[Tagging] Milk Churn Stands

2020-06-20 Thread Paul Allen
Recently I was digging for some details of a farm I was mapping and came across a map of the locations of milk churn stands in the county of Ceredigion. It struck me that we should have a way of tagging mllk churn stands. They are platforms, usually constructed from bricks or concrete, occasional