Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-06 Thread Yves
Le 6 octobre 2017 18:34:30 GMT+02:00, marc marc a écrit : >Le 04. 10. 17 à 17:44, Yves a écrit : >> Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. >> Also, you can take time to explain your argument against in the >> discussion page, it's a wiki ;-) > >if an individualist contr

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-06 Thread marc marc
Le 04. 10. 17 à 17:44, Yves a écrit : > Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. > Also, you can take time to explain your argument against in the > discussion page, it's a wiki ;-) if an individualist contributor makes both mass changes on the wiki to mark tags that bother

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-04 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Yves, Am 04.10.2017 um 17:44 schrieb Yves: > Whatever this tag is good or bad, it's not a good idea to delete the page > from the wiki. > If I find it in the data, this page will inform me on its meaning. > Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. > Also, you can take

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-04 Thread Yves
Whatever this tag is good or bad, it's not a good idea to delete the page from the wiki. If I find it in the data, this page will inform me on its meaning. Now if it's bad, you can trust the contributors not to use it. Also, you can take time to explain your argument against in the discussion

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-04 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 03.10.2017 11:34, Thilo Haug wrote: Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. As you ask so directly - the core problem is your attitude towards the community. On 10 January 2017‎ you propose "motorcycle_friendly", but don't discuss it in the community. On 1

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 16:02 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug OSM : > You're talking about things like this ? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dinsect_hotel > > I don't see an issue with this, it has 105 instances tagged and documentation in several languages. I'm not very interested in the topic, but

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 12:32 GMT+02:00 marc marc : > and more, if you delete the banners that warn the problem, it is clearly > an intention to mislead people and / or manipulate the result of the > invalid vote of the proposal, which in my opinion alone justifies a > radical clarification to make the differe

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug OSM
You're talking about things like this ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dinsect_hotel Have those all been discussed ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Seamark_Object_Usage When is it "low usage" ? And how should usage appear (in a structured way), if it's not documente

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread marc marc
Le 03. 10. 17 à 11:52, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > 2017-10-03 11:34 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug mailto:th...@gmx.de>>: > > Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. > > If everybody creates feature pages for his personal, low usage features, > the wiki loose

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-03 11:34 GMT+02:00 Thilo Haug : > Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. > If everybody creates feature pages for his personal, low usage features, the wiki looses it's function of documenting the generally used and established features, as they are not

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-03 Thread Thilo Haug
Please describe which 'problems' you fear to appear if it's not deleted. In case anyone would have improvement suggestions they are certainly appreciated. Am Montag, 2. Oktober 2017 23:20:41 CEST schrieb marc marc : Hello, Le 02. 10. 17 à 13:21, Michael Reichert a écrit : What are your opin

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-02 Thread Warin
On 02-Oct-17 10:21 PM, Michael Reichert wrote: Hi, while I was looking up some tags for camp sites, I just stumbled across the proposal of motorcycle_friendly=* and the tags motorcycle:*=*. The proposal was discussed on this mailing list in March 2017. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/t

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-02 Thread marc marc
Hello, Le 02. 10. 17 à 13:21, Michael Reichert a écrit : > What are your opinions? I totally adhere to the many problems you point out. Regards, Marc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-02 13:21 GMT+02:00 Michael Reichert : > > > What are your opinions? I agree that features which have been rejected in proposal voting should not get a feature definition page, at least not if they are disputed and not used in significant numbers (there will still be the proposal page t

[Tagging] Proposed deletion of wiki pages about motorcycle_friendly=*

2017-10-02 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, while I was looking up some tags for camp sites, I just stumbled across the proposal of motorcycle_friendly=* and the tags motorcycle:*=*. The proposal was discussed on this mailing list in March 2017. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-March/031403.html I hereby propose t