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Am 01.08.2015 um 23:18 schrieb John Eldredge jfeldre...@gmail.com:
It makes sense to me to go more by physical attributes than the official
primary/secondary/tertiary rating
I don't understand why we are having this same discussion every 2 years.
Please read the wiki
It makes sense to me to go more by physical attributes than the official
primary/secondary/tertiary rating. Among other reasons, medium-term
conditions such as construction projects may mean that the quickest route
from point A to point B involves the use of a lower-rated roadway to bypass
a
W dniu 29.07.2015 17:01, Martin Koppenhoefer napisał(a):
This is admittedly only the German situation but my guess is that many
other countries operate in a similar way (i.e. do have more complex
road classes internally than what is visible from signposted ref).
We have similar discussion
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Am 29.07.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl:
highway:class:pl=S/A/GP/G
highway:category:pl=2/4/6/7 (the number is the same as the corresponding
admin_level)
category and class are very generic terms, if you can specify more precisely
the kind of
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
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I was arguing against a worldwide unified classification. What you're
worried about is only local classification :
A router won't care about classification differences between far away
places like Germany to
On 29/07/2015, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 5:29 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:
A router won't care about classification differences between far away
places like Germany to Ethiopia. They just care about taking the best
road in the area, and
according to their National numbering,
type of road and state of surface but we can tag them accordingly.
From: Pavel Zbytovský
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:02 AM
To: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Tagging] works_as_highway=primary
Hi,
we have a following issue at mapy.cz (zooms cca 13
What I try to say is that you should not map a important road for large
distances as secondary + works_as_primary just because it is a smaller,
has a different surface, a different ref or whatever.
Then (large distance, important road) it is a primary road IMHO, regardless
of any other tags.
If
On 07/29/2015 07:11 AM, moltonel 3x Combo wrote:
Routers can already use 'prefer primary to secondary' worldwide.
Nowhere in the OSM world is secondary defined as better than primary.
In any given area. a car router can confidently prefer 'primary'.
Based on what John Willis has said about
A better router might weight physical attributes such as lanes, surface and
effective speed more prominently than heuristics based on logical stuff like
administrative classifications and legal maximum speeds. Artificially
manipulating the tagging to influence the results of routing algorithms
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Am 29.07.2015 um 15:08 schrieb Andrew Guertin andrew.guer...@uvm.edu:
I think that this breaks a router's idea that primary is better than
secondary, and I think that this problem is exactly why people advocate for
not following official classification.
I believe the
Hi,
we have a following issue at mapy.cz (zooms cca 13 are OSM data). We try
to render primary road overview in Czech republic, so the drivers could
easily see where its possible to drive. But sometimes the primary road ends
and continues as a secondary road - it could be in cites, or possibly
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Am 28.07.2015 um 11:02 schrieb Pavel Zbytovský zbytov...@gmail.com:
1) technically the small secondary roads part works as primary road network.
So we would suggest a tag similar to works_as_highway=primary. Do you think
its ok? Any suggestions?
from what you have
On 28/07/2015, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 28.07.2015 um 11:02 schrieb Pavel Zbytovský zbytov...@gmail.com:
1) technically the small secondary roads part works as primary road
network. So we would suggest a tag similar to works_as_highway=primary. Do
you think its ok?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:14 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
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That ideal doesn't match the practical reality. highway=primary has a
very different definition between Ethiopia and Germany, by necessity.
While they can be very different, a router should still be able to prefer a
On 28/07/2015, Pavel Zbytovský zbytov...@gmail.com wrote:
Since nobody objected much, i would probably go with
works_as_highway=primary - i think it reflects the state of reality, so its
useful to be added in OSM dataset.
FWIW, I'm not a big fan of this, because it is just a variation of
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Am 28.07.2015 um 16:14 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
Sorry but no, too simplistic. A lot of local OSM communities follow
the official national road classification where possible.
That's too simplistic ;-)
That ideal doesn't match the practical
Thanks for updates, yes, we have similar rules as Ireland.
Since nobody objected much, i would probably go with
works_as_highway=primary - i think it reflects the state of reality, so its
useful to be added in OSM dataset.
Regards,
Pavel
út 28. 7. 2015 v 16:33 odesílatel Marc Gemis
On 28/07/2015, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:14 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com
wrote:
That ideal doesn't match the practical reality. highway=primary has a
very different definition between Ethiopia and Germany, by necessity.
While they can be
On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:29 AM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com wrote:
One routing error that came up recently is a trunk with a lower than
typical maxspeed, and a trunk_link without a maxspeed tag. The router
used its default idea of maxspeed for that link, and tried to use it
as a
uto, 28. srp 2015. 11:53 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com je
napisao:
from what you have written it seems to me that these are tagging errors:
if a road works as primary it should get the primary tag in osm.
Country specific deviations that result from following different criteria
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Am 28.07.2015 um 17:57 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com:
That said, I don't see a better tag that your style could use to
decide displaying that road
rather than adding a tag: render like a primary you should check what it is
that you are after (e.g.
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