Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:54 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: But it is a fact that a tree ist not standing alone. I'd rather mark facts with a tag. I suggest you start marking buildings which are within 50 meters of each other with denotation=cluster next. The more facts, the better.

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Dave F.
On 10/09/2010 04:54, NopMap wrote: Hi! Because you only can assume that something probably is a landmark. But it is a fact that a tree ist not standing alone. I'd rather mark facts with a tag. But you're making assumptions that it's not a landmark. IMO, 50 metres does not make a cluster.

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de To: Tagging@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:54 AM Subject: Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees Hi! M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: so 2 trees are a cluster? IMHO that's also agains your own intentions, because 2

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 7:13 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Maybe I'm missing something in this discussion, but what exactly is so important about the fact that the tree is standing alone that it needs to specifically be tagged as standing (or not standing) alone? David,

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Unnamed footways for pedestrian navigation

2010-09-10 Thread SomeoneElse
On 10/09/2010 11:14, Tobias Knerr wrote: Lulu-Ann wrote: I would like to add loc_name-tags for this and name ways like footway from village A to B, west of footway crossing in MyWoodName Yes: Don't use loc_name (or any other key that contains name) for this. It's not a name. It's a

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread David Groom
Serge Thank you for such a very helpful and clear summary. I had tried to follow from the start of the thread, but I couldn't see through it with the clarity you have managed. See some of my points below. - Original Message - From: Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com To: Tag

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you missed the beginning of this painful thread. Thank you for this summary. I agree to your position. I notice today a bot (called Nop) has starting changing tag on single tree by adding denotation=cluster I don't know what it means and what

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
He noted earlier in the thread that the bot is tagging any tree that is within 50 meters of another tree as denotation=cluster. The wiki says to use this notation for trees that are not single trees, but does not specify what distance distinguishes a single tree from a cluster of trees.

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Tobias Knerr
John F. Eldredge wrote: He noted earlier in the thread that the bot is tagging any tree that is within 50 meters of another tree as denotation=cluster. The wiki says to use this notation for trees that are not single trees, but does not specify what distance distinguishes a single tree from

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/10 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: For the record, I think that the denotation=cluster tag is a bad idea. It's vague, overlaps with the other values of denotation and doesn't add any information that wasn't there before. as I already expressed here: I completely agree. cheers,

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread NopMap
A few corrections are in order... Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: * Nop points out that the wiki definition of trees says a lone tree and interprets this as a prominent tree (a landmark, etc.). The wiki says: lone or significant tree and I interpret that as a prominent tree. Serge

[Tagging] [OpenStreetMap] social facility

2010-09-10 Thread Sean Horgan
I'd like to get some feedback from the community on possible inclusion of emergency shelter in a social facility feature. I was discussing this with the author of that proposal, kerosin, as I'd like to fold the Homeless Shelter proposal into Social Facility. After just a little research, the

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/10/10 4:27 PM, NopMap wrote: A few corrections are in order... Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: * Nop points out that the wiki definition of trees says a lone tree and interprets this as a prominent tree (a landmark, etc.). The wiki says: lone or significant tree and I interpret that as a

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread NopMap
Hi! John F. Eldredge wrote: Perhaps i've miss something but i haven't see a discussion about a bot Yes, you missed something. Check the posts from Sept. 7th: Tagging ML: Anthony-6: Can't that analysis be expanded to the world, and the trees retagged? M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: can't you do

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: I did what was asked for. You can't mark landmarks automatically, but can add a hint to those that are likely unremarkable. Since it is just an additional tag, it is non-destructive, unlike re-inventing the tagging scheme. If you

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 11:54 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: But it is a fact that a tree ist not standing alone. I'd rather mark facts with a tag. I suggest you start marking buildings which are within 50 meters of each other

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread John F. Eldredge
Actually, I did not write the statement quoted below. I posted a reply to Pierre-Alain Dorange, who had made the quoted statement. I explained to Pierre-Alain that the bot was reportedly tagging any tree within 50 meters of any other tree as a cluster. Incidentally, doing so is the opposite

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: So please keep complaining, I am removing myself from the discussion. I have made my point three times over. As far as I am concerned, the problem is mostly remedied.  If you still think it is a good idea to destroy some 5