Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] POI for Hotel

2012-05-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/4/15 Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com Somebody should start an OpenServicesDatabase-project, that would host information about hotels, restaurants, cafes, museums and parks with detailed description of amenities provided along with user reviews. /Markus This would be

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 15/05/12 22:25, Colin Smale wrote: It would be nice if these rond-points would be explicitly tagged (e.g. junction=rond_point???) so mkgmap can still easily be taught to recognise it and treat it as a roundabout even if it doesn't comply with the OSM semantics for one. Otherwise your satnav

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Vonwald
First of all many thanks for your detailed and constructive feedback. 2012/5/15 Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com: Still open, so please provide feedback: * Decision if traffic_calming=chicane or traffic_calming=island should be used in two of the examples Chicanes look

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/5/16 Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com: According to Wikipedia at least, the ones without priority for circulating traffic are called traffic circles in the US, and they use the BE roundabout as we do in GB:  In the U.S., traffic engineers use the term roundabout for

Re: [Tagging] Turning circle with island or turning loop (was Re: (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread fly
On 15/05/12 14:46, Anthony wrote: I'd prefer highway=turning_loop. I think it'll be more noticeable. But either solution is fine. Purists can easily go through and convert them, if they care. +1 Sorting turning loops from turning circles can be time-consuming. So it's nice to have a way

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/15/2012 10:30 AM, Anthony wrote: Okay, so, for OSM terminology, a roundabout means 1) traffic goes in one direction; 2) entering traffic must yield; and 3) entering traffic need not stop (no stop signs). Nope.

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: It would be nice if these rond-points would be explicitly tagged (e.g. junction=rond_point???) so mkgmap can still easily be taught to recognise it and treat it as a roundabout even if it doesn't comply with the OSM

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread fly
On 16/05/12 12:03, Martin Vonwald wrote: Thanks for your work. 8. Editor support for circles seems too prominent where it is, and nobody's really bothered about the neatening tools at first. I suggest demoting this to a later section, and maybe retitling it as Drawing neater circles.

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Vonwald
2012/5/16 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: In the JOSM section a link to the JOSM-wiki describtions of the tools [1][2] is useful. [1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/AlignInCircle [2] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Action/CreateCircle Links added - thanks.

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 8:51 AM, Anthony wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote: Unless you want to invent a new tag for the New Jersey circles that give right-of-way to some approaches. I wouldn't mind. There's something fundamentally different between a

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more approaches has right-of-way? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Martin Vonwald (Imagic)
Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more approaches has right-of-way? Penalties for routing?

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 1:52 PM, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote: Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Steve Doerr
On 16/05/2012 19:01, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/16/2012 1:52 PM, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote: Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2012 19:01, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/16/2012 1:52 PM, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote: Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread fly
On 16/05/12 21:34, Toby Murray wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/05/2012 19:01, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/16/2012 1:52 PM, Martin Vonwald (Imagic) wrote: Am 16.05.2012 um 19:44 schrieb Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com: Does anyone

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] U.S. inland waterways

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 1:06 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: I guess that depends on what you're trying to do... If you are trying to tag the largest possible vessel that can navigate a waterway (under normal conditions at least) you could probably come up with a reasonable set of tags. Inland waterways are

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 16, 2012 12:35 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: There is highway=stop and highway=give_way but their use is kind of awkward. The wiki says to put it on a node before the intersection which makes some sense but then anyone who actually wants to use it has to do some

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] U.S. inland waterways

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 6:48 PM, Dale Puch wrote: I found this at http://www.ndc.iwr.usace.army.mil/data/dictionary/ddnwn.htm Data is here http://www.ndc.iwr.usace.army.mil//db/waternet/data/ but not in shp format so someone would need to do some format translation. There are lots of other sets of data and

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more approaches has right-of-way? I think the issue is

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 7:41 PM, Anthony wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more approaches has

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/16/2012 7:41 PM, Anthony wrote:  Does anyone have an example of a traffic circle where entering traffic does not yield, but it makes sense for a satnav to say make a left at the roundabout? I'd expect to be told

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone have an actual use case where it's so important to know whether entering traffic yields that the user expects a completely different tag when one or more approaches has right-of-way? Also, I'd prefer for my

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 8:13 PM, Anthony wrote: Also, I'd prefer for my satnav to save the word roundabout for actual roundabouts. If it starts talking to me about roundabouts when I'm just merging onto a road which is part of an interchange which is kind of circular in shape, I'm just going to get

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/16/2012 8:13 PM, Anthony wrote: Also, I'd prefer for my satnav to save the word roundabout for actual roundabouts.  If it starts talking to me about roundabouts when I'm just merging onto a road which is part of

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 8:34 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyway, while looking for an example of a roundabout, I came across this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/83428962/history Why did you remove the roundabout tag? Because it's not a complete circle... ___

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On May 16, 2012 4:47 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I'd expect to be told take the nth exit from the roundabout/circle. How is the satnav to know if an angle of 135 degrees is straight or left? Same here, especially given situations like Ladd's Circle in Portland, which is a

Re: [Tagging] (Mini)Roundabout: examples

2012-05-16 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/16/2012 8:34 PM, Anthony wrote: Anyway, while looking for an example of a roundabout, I came across this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/83428962/history Why did you remove the roundabout tag? Because

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] U.S. inland waterways

2012-05-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 5/16/2012 10:42 PM, Dale Puch wrote: You might check with the OpenSeaMap guys Surely at one of them is paying attention to tagging@? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging