I'll weigh in with the common American conception of dirt road. It is a
general term meaning unpaved. As Jaakko correctly pints out, some dirt
roads are really quite well built. For an example close to my Alaska home,
the long lonely road leading to the Prudhoe Bay oilfields, see these images
of
On 13.03.2014 10:34, jonathan wrote:
Here's my take from an Englishman!
While the term dirt road is used here, it is much rarer as all public
(adopted) roads in the UK are paved in some way shape or form. Most
dirt roads are probably private roads, farm tracks or paths.
Now, back to the
Dear all,
the proposal is now open for voting.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boat_sharing
The idea is to create a tag for boat sharing communities, just in analogy of
the existing and well accepted tag amenity=car_sharing.
Thank you very much for voting.
nounours77
Dear all,
the proposal reached the end of the voting period. There were 10 Yes and 0 No.
I consider therefore the proposal to be accepted.
Thank you all for your comments and the support for the proposal
Nounours77
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Hi,
How great to finally more than an empty page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:associatedStreet !!!
But now, if that relation factorizes (2) street name shouldn't it
factorize addr: city, country, postcode too?
Shouldn't those keys be allowed in the relation?
Shouldn't those who
What do you mean by 'factorize'?
Jo
2014-03-13 15:00 GMT+01:00 André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com:
Hi,
How great to finally more than an empty
pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:associatedStreet!!!
But now, if that relation factorizes (2) street name shouldn't it
But do you think that earth and ground are different kinds of surface?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 13.03.2014 10:34, jonathan wrote:
Here's my take from an Englishman!
While the term dirt road is used here, it is much rarer as all public
On 13.03.2014 15:37, Fernando Trebien wrote:
But do you think that earth and ground are different kinds of surface?
Well, I would consider earth as earth where ground could be earth but
does not have to be.
All together, I think we could get rid of at least one out of the three
tags after
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 09:34:24AM +, jonathan wrote:
Here's my take from an Englishman!
While the term dirt road is used here, it is much rarer as all
From another English person, I would say that dirt in British English
is understood to mean the substance which causes something to be
On 2014-03-13 15:17, Jo wrote :
What do you mean by 'factorize'?
The same as Sylvain Letuffe and Albert Einstein ;-)
ab+ac=a×(b+c)
a is a multiple common factor that is expressed only once.
It is the street name that can be alongside each number or only once in
the relation.
Понимаешь? ;-)
On 13/03/2014 15:09, ael wrote:
From another English person, I would say that dirt in British English
is understood to mean the substance which causes something to be not
clean. That is it is much wider in meaning than soil or earth. But it
is almost never used to mean soil or earth under your
Am 13.03.2014 15:56, schrieb fly:
On 13.03.2014 15:37, Fernando Trebien wrote:
But do you think that earth and ground are different kinds of surface?
Well, I would consider earth as earth where ground could be earth but
does not have to be.
All together, I think we could get rid of at least
On 3/13/14 12:02 PM, Georg Feddern wrote:
So I would get rid of dirt, but keep 'earth' beside 'ground' as a
useful value (smooth walking on hiking trails) .
where as for my mapping in the US, dirt is the only
one that i use, and common usage is to refer to these
roads as dirt roads by pretty
My two cents:
dirt maybe applies only to road surface
ground human impacted 'earth'
earth as natural as remains depending on location
=Russ
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In Portuguese, we have the same false friend as French, and I'd guess
Spanish and Italian have it too. At least for Portuguese, literal
translations of these terms (ground, dirt, earth and soil) correspond
exactly to your description, Steve. If we translate literally,
however, we're gonna see
While I'd probably colloquially call it a dirt road, your description of the
construction sounds suspiciously like the construction developed by John
MacAdam and may well be considered to be surfaced road by a highway engineer.
In the early days of motoring that type of road was considered to
It seems that:
- if a surface can be grass or paved, asphalt, concrete,
paving_stones, etc., then it seems the only reason to state the
surface consists of ground is if it's unpaved and without vegetation,
right?
- the American usage of dirt (as in your car will get dirty) is a
broad description
Hi
After some discussion about this feature on the mailing list
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-February/016559.html
the proposal is now open for voting.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_open_until
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Live long and prosper
Robin
Hi again
And direct the next one. Sadly there was no discussion for this proposal yet.
Started voting phase:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours_holiday_select
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Robin Schneider
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On 2014-03-13 14:20, nounours77 wrote :
Dear all,
the proposal is now open for voting.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boat_sharing
The idea is to create a tag for boat sharing communities, just in analogy of
the existing and well accepted tag amenity=car_sharing.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Robin `ypid` Schneider ypi...@aol.de wrote:
It's unclear if your proposal is opening_hours=SH(summer holiday) or
opening_hours=SH (then you should correct the wiki because the tag
template is using the first version)
I guess you plan to update the main
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Fernando Trebien
fernando.treb...@gmail.com wrote:
It seems that:
- if a surface can be grass or paved, asphalt, concrete,
paving_stones, etc., then it seems the only reason to state the
surface consists of ground is if it's unpaved and without vegetation,
So:
- earth is a close synonym of soil (though it's not exactly the same thing)
- ground could refer to: soil/earth (no vegetation), soil/earth +
vegetation (say, grass)
- dirt could refer to: soil/earth, clay, sand, arguably gravel (it
may not be correct but it may be a good idea to clarify this
Am 13/mar/2014 um 15:56 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Well, I would consider earth as earth where ground could be earth but
does not have to be.
+1, both are probably an indication that the way is travelled frequently
enough/compacted to some level that prevents vegetation (ok,
Am 13/mar/2014 um 20:57 schrieb Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com:
So:
- earth is a close synonym of soil (though it's not exactly the same
thing)
- ground could refer to: soil/earth (no vegetation), soil/earth +
vegetation (say, grass)
IMHO if it's grass then the mapper
In Australia, we refer to a dirt road meaning just about any unsealed
road. Very rarely use earth or ground. Ground sounds to me more like
the level than the surface, I'd argue most roads are at ground level !
We often describe a gravel road as a dirt road, as such a road goes
through its normal
Well, I've updated the descriptions in the wiki for ground, dirt and
earth:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Asurfacediff=1000653oldid=978363
Does it look ok?
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:31 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
In Australia, we
I agree with David Bannon when he says 'earth' and 'ground' are really
not very informative terms when it comes to road surfaces but not what he
says about dirt, and with most of what Martin said in his recent post, but
especially that a dirt road does not contain gravel even though we
+1 for dirt. There is a distinct difference between a dirt and gravel roads, as
well as sand.
In the US, dirt roads - especially fire and forestry roads - are maintained for
private and emergency access. Most of these roads are maintained by grading,
but are not surfaced with gravel in any
Keeping up with you:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AMap_Features%3Asurfacediff=1000695oldid=1000659
It seems science defines soil more broadly, we sure can expect
people to choose based on common (not scientific) usage. From
Wikipedia: [Soil] is a natural body that
+1 to define landuse=civic_admin.
It is very helpful to represent the outline when using type=site relation.
Especially for more than 2 amenities shares 1 landuse.
e.g. in the case of 2 schools (junior high high school) is in 1 landuse,
in Japan.
I think they must be represent as type=site
not sure but usually the sauna in public baths is somewhat separated so
we might as well tag part of the object as sauna.
Yes, this is a very difficult point. I also could not define which is
better.
Maybe depending on the situation and country.
But from Japanese view, Onsen's main feature is
To me, Amenity=onsen is similar to amenity=townhall.
for many onsen, there is no particular room you would say is the onsen, just
like no particular room is the townhall, It is the title of the facility
itself.. The purpose of the facility becomes it's name.
There might be some small
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