[Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Frank
Hi, Follow a thread on another forum (non OSM, but talking about side issues) I think the following things should be mapped to add information to the map in regards some, mainly commercial, camp grounds that have communal kitchens; stove top (no, not a bbq) microwave_oven fridge (or

[Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread S Volk
Hi,I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen some cisterns, also know that some humanitarian NGOs have made many cisterns on Africa (also water_wells). Question:How to tag a cistern (it seems to be not like what is shown for landuse=reservoir; rather a small man made

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
The Wikipedia defintion of cistern is much wider than the toilet cistern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistern On 1 February 2015 at 10:21, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/01/2015 10:49 AM, S Volk wrote: Hi, I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen some

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Volker Schmidt
cistern in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as firw-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water On 31 January 2015 at 00:49, S Volk svo...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 8:31 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: cistern in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as fish?-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water On 31 January 2015 at 00:49, S Volk svo...@hotmail.com

[Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread Martin Vonwald
Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de Date: 2015-02-01 13:40 GMT+01:00 Subject: [josm-dev] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released To: josm-...@openstreetmap.org Hello, the new JOSM tested version for last month

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 1/02/2015 7:47 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out there.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 31/01/2015 10:49 AM, S Volk wrote: Hi, I've been mapping on Africa in HOT tasks and around, I've seen some cisterns, also know that some humanitarian NGOs have made many cisterns on Africa (also water_wells). Question: How to tag a cistern (it seems to be not like what is shown for

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad of facilities out there. AFAIK, there is no way to distinguish a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
amenity =drinking_water sounds right for the drinkable water, I wouldn't use tank, rather also add a man_made=cistern for the kind of object cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
My error on the 'cistern'.. or rather limiting the application. I'm thinking of the 'ballcock' ... not a plumber. On 1/02/2015 8:33 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: The Wikipedia defintion of cistern is much wider than the toilet cistern: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cistern On 1 February 2015

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread John Willis
Speaking of cisterns, Does this notion of cistern are reservoirs cover fire cisterns? In most urban and suburban areas of Japan, there are underground hydrants, but there are a lot of fire cisterns as well out here in rural Japan. The fire trucks carry a snorkel. I assume this is an old

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread François Lacombe
Big thank to the devs ! *François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux 2015-02-01 14:04 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. -- Forwarded message

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
I have just started up JOSM and, while it did upload 7995 and ask me to update my plug-ins the last entry on the start page is still ... 2014-12-29 (7906) On 1 February 2015 at 15:45, Michał Brzozowski www.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 3:31 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: cistern in English implies underground or covered. You want something like man_made=water_tank (unfortunately often used as firw-water tank) or man_made=storage storage=water I realize there's a bit of a

Re: [Tagging] RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Feb 1, 2015 2:49 AM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: There is much that needs to be done to bring OSM up to speed regarding camping facilities IMO. We have only a very few tags tourism=camp_site, tourism=caravan_site, and in a stretch, leisure=summer camp to describe the myriad

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this info gets updated automatically. I did clear the cache, btw. Michał On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: Spreading the word. Thanks to the devs. -- Forwarded message --

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: And it seems for the most part, the tags with the most staying power seem to be ones that were natural fits, and *then* were documented *how they're actually used* in the wiki retroactively. A mostly +1 on that.

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: *I looked carefully at the situation of that road bridge in Bremen, and to me it looks clear that the stretch on the bridge cannot legally be a motorroad. When you enter from the west on the on-ramp I bet you do not find

Re: [Tagging] JOSM 7995 (January 2015) released

2015-02-01 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-02-01 16:45, Michał Brzozowski wrote : Oddly enough, there is no info on the JOSM start page. I thought this info gets updated automatically. I did clear the cache, btw. It's a plain Web page https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/StartupPage and you should try to find why you don't see it.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Voting system- time for reform?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com wrote: +1 Nobody votes because it's a borderline pointless endeavor. I joined this group to effect changes in tagging things of interest to me. But the discussions inevitably go round and round with nary a thing getting

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hi A shop that solely sells electronic cigarettes has been added locally. I guess this type of product will be on the increase so I think it's best to clarify unified tag, if there's ever been such a thing in OSM :-)

Re: [Tagging] Motorroad does not apply to all lanes

2015-02-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:36 PM, 715371 osmu715...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, I have a very, very special case here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/318383959 There is a road with four lanes, but not all of them seem to be motorroad. There is a sign which suggests that. I do not like to have a

[Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly distinguish one at a state park that, save for the campground host, doesn't allow long term stays, to ones that allow

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly distinguish one at a state park that, save for the campground

Re: [Tagging] Electronic or 'e' cigarettes?

2015-02-01 Thread Tac Tacelosky
Another legitimate terms for these shops is a vape shop, and the practice of using any sort of electronic cigarette is now referred to as vaping. This is a better term than smoking, as the product emits vapors, not smoke. We are enthusiastic about seeing this term standardized, as many

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
The http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site is quite a comprehensive proposal. One small thing I noticed in that one is that waterway=water_point should be changed to amenity=water_point, to be consistent with current OSM usage. I guess the only issue I have

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: The http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site is quite a comprehensive proposal. One small thing I noticed in that one is that waterway=water_point should be changed to amenity=water_point, to be

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 15:22 -0800, Tod Fitch wrote: . I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto the main camp_site page. Specifically the site/pitch specific tags at

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread David Bannon
On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: I've edited the wiki page on camp sites https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its done, I have added toilets. But seems

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 2:33 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: I've edited the wiki page on camp sites https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 10:22 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Feb 1, 2015, at 2:50 PM, David Bannon wrote: Subject Was - RFD Camp ground Kitchens and their fittings On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 09:47 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: Another one: caravan sites. There's not any way to cleanly distinguish one at a state park

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 11:43 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Sun, 2015-02-01 at 15:22 -0800, Tod Fitch wrote: . I would like to have some of the items on Extend_camp_site page brought onto the main camp_site page. Specifically the site/pitch specific tags at

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Warin
On 2/02/2015 2:33 PM, David Bannon wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 12:24 +1100, Warin wrote: I've edited the wiki page on camp sites https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site to include links to the tags for fee, shower, laundry, firepit and water tap. OK, if thats how its

Re: [Tagging] Draft Additions to camp_site

2015-02-01 Thread Tod Fitch
Sorry for the quote all, but the email app on this cell phone doesn't make it easy to edit quoted text. Regarding detail mapping of individual sites/pitches, the reason I mapped the camp sites in the campgrounds on a local mountain was for a Forest Service volunteer group. The local medical